Isn't Bender the type of big man we want?

[spikelovetheCelts]

We're not drafting Dragon Bender. Get off that fantasy. The kid is no better then KO. If Danny keeps the pick he's gonna draft Buddy Heild. I think he trades out for a proven big. Bender is no more then a 6-8 pick. I can't wait for him to come in for workouts just to shut the Bender lovers up already. We r not drafting him

Murray will be drafted above Buddy. Once Murray works out DA will see his upside. Buddy is great but Murray will be better. If we draft Buddy it will be cool too. No Bender 

[Boris Badenov]

I hear he's a bad influence in the locker room.

[Tr1boy]

Ainge said after the draft immediate help, Bender is not that.

In fairness, he also said that we'd be taking best player available, even if he took some time to develop.

I have absolutely no idea who Danny will take.

No. I agree with the previous poster.  Projects and CBS do not mesh. CBS does not have time for that. You have to be self made up to a certain pt.   

[Tr1boy]

We're not drafting Dragon Bender. Get off that fantasy. The kid is no better then KO. If Danny keeps the pick he's gonna draft Buddy Heild. I think he trades out for a proven big. Bender is no more then a 6-8 pick. I can't wait for him to come in for workouts just to shut the Bender lovers up already. We r not drafting him

I wish we were drafting Dragon Bender.  Sounds like a vicious player. Fire

[Roy H.]

Ainge said after the draft immediate help, Bender is not that.

In fairness, he also said that we'd be taking best player available, even if he took some time to develop.

I have absolutely no idea who Danny will take.

No. I agree with the previous poster.  Projects and CBS do not mesh. CBS does not have time for that. You have to be self made up to a certain pt.

Wasn't the reason we hired Stevens because he's good at development?

Sure, he wants to win.  A key part of his job is molding talent, however.  Whoever we pick in the draft is likely to be at least somewhat raw. 

Also, aren't you simultaneously advocating for Skal Labissiere?  If Stevens and projects don't mesh, it seems like he'd be off the table.

With Bender, I think that if Danny thinks he's got star potential, he'll take him.  He'll take whoever he thinks has the best chance to be the best player (assuming he doesn't trade the pick).

[moiso]

Ainge said after the draft immediate help, Bender is not that.

In fairness, he also said that we'd be taking best player available, even if he took some time to develop.

I have absolutely no idea who Danny will take.

No. I agree with the previous poster.  Projects and CBS do not mesh. CBS does not have time for that. You have to be self made up to a certain pt.

Seems like you are Stevens' psychologist.  You know more about Stevens than Stevens does.

[walker834]

Kelly and Bender are more similar than people realize.   Bender is being compared to guys like Gasol but worst case is Bender is just a skinnier KO.  Neither guy is that athletic or has great leaping ability. Kelly gets in the lane and struggles to create contact or get his shot off just like Bender right now. Best case is Bender actually plays with the tenacity KO lacks and is a more fluid player better shot blocker and can really impact the game in different ways. KO is thicker and has  a more nba body right now.

KO still plays the game of basketball like he is frolicking through a meadow picking daisies.

If Bender is a leader version of KO I'll take that. I'd wait for it too. Trade to get a center and deal whoever is not a leader.

That's our front line right there.

[Tr1boy]

Kelly and Bender are more similar than people realize.   Bender is being compared to guys like Gasol but worst case is Bender is just a skinnier KO.  Neither guy is that athletic or has great leaping ability. Kelly gets in the lane and struggles to create contact or get his shot off just like Bender right now. Best case is Bender actually plays with the tenacity KO lacks and is a more fluid player better shot blocker and can really impact the game in different ways. KO is thicker and has  a more nba body right now.

KO still plays the game of basketball like he is frolicking through a meadow picking daisies.

If Bender is a leader version of KO I'll take that. I'd wait for it too. Trade to get a center and deal whoever is not a leader.

That's our front line right there.

Kelly has a mid range game. Or it's developing. The dribble stop and pop. Bender is a set shooter at best.  Either guess he is going to shoot the jumper or drive in. 

Both lack a post game. 

Defensively I can see the similarities with bender quicker out to the perimeter and KO stronger right now (and it took him several years to get in the shape/strength he is at (and still is 8-10 pounds away), I wonder how long it will take Bender)

[inverselock]

Kelly and Bender are more similar than people realize.   Bender is being compared to guys like Gasol but worst case is Bender is just a skinnier KO.  Neither guy is that athletic or has great leaping ability. Kelly gets in the lane and struggles to create contact or get his shot off just like Bender right now. Best case is Bender actually plays with the tenacity KO lacks and is a more fluid player better shot blocker and can really impact the game in different ways. KO is thicker and has  a more nba body right now.

KO still plays the game of basketball like he is frolicking through a meadow picking daisies.

If Bender is a leader version of KO I'll take that. I'd wait for it too. Trade to get a center and deal whoever is not a leader.

That's our front line right there.

KO has T-rex arms  very poor wingspan and standing reach.    Bender has good length for his height.   Approx extra 4inches reach and span.

[walker834]

This draft is kind of tricky that way.  Guys like Love, Okafor, Butler etc would all be well and good but we have to trade for them.  Where we are drafting we have an opportunity to get an upgrade at a spot.  Bradley, KO, Crowder are good players.  But Hield  and Murray are potential upgrades at guard.  Brown at SF.  Bender at PF.  They are just younger where we have to wait. 

We could have drafted Okafor or Butler ourselves or even  Porzingis and put ourselves in position to do that.  Instead we are in that spot here, where we can get a player like that. We just have to wait.

I agree Bender has more upside than KO.  Brown over Crowder.   Hield or Murray over Bradley.   I think Bender has the most upside but that's me.

I think Bender is the best player we can draft.  We have smart and IT and Rozier and Bradley already.  I dont think Hield or Murray is that big an upgrade over there. Brown is an upgrade over Crowder with development.

All these guys are going to take time to develop.

[SHAQATTACK]

We need no more KO's .

Need high energy tuff guy with lift who likes to battle under he boards and NOT scard to play defense on other bigs.

[walker834]

The issue with trading the pick is we need to be getting something of equal value. Bender in a few years once he adds body mass has the ability to be that guy. He has the tenacity and ability to be a very good defensive player. He is super long and quick and has the tenacity to do that.  He just can't establish position right now because he's 18. 

I can see us moving the pick for a guy like okafor for that reason. I dont see us getting Klove. Butler is a guard if we trade the  pick for him. We'd have to add a big through free agency.

Bender to me has the potential to be on those guys level in a bit. 

Al Horford doesn't do much for me.  He isn't going to beat the best players in the league.

There is a very short list.  Okafor is not a great defender himself.  He can bang but also was not a great rebounder as a rookie but he's developing. He isn't a Tim Duncan level defender and shot blocker and rebounder or distributer though.

Love I just don't see how we get him.

Whiteside is out there but he has his own issues and Miami might want to keep him.

I don't think people think through this stuff logically. Bender has a chance to be one of those guys. His calling card is his tenacity.

We are in position to draft a player like that ourselves.

I still am not necessarily buying the whole we are going to build around Isaiah thing for that reason.  Players in the league are a very short list.

I can basically name them all right here. Most of these guys getting them is very far fetched. Getting them to beat lebron even moreso

Paul George
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
jhalil okafor
Butler
Cousins
Horford
Whiteside

Half those guys no chance in hell they are coming here.   The other few I'm not sure I want. We may still go after Gallinari for all I know or a guy like Ibaka but again far fetched.

[walker834]

There is not any other players in the league worth trading the 3rd pick for.  I will say that right now.  Some of those guys aren't even.

At least with the 3rd pick we have a chance to get someone on that level.  EVery other player in the nba isn't or there is no chance of them coming here.

Yeah danny can look around the league and say this guy is what we would hope for there. But good luck.  Some GM's are stupid but not that dumb.

The only reason we got ray and then kg is because they were on really bad teams and wanted out.

Okafor there is a chance.  But yeah.

[cltc5]

No.  Festive ezili.  Another miss by Danny ainge .  The man cannot draft a good team anymore if he goes with bender

[walker834]

did anyone like ezili though? I didn't.   Did Ainge even draft him? I thought he was picked late first round by the warriors.

I dont agree with everything ainge does but I dont recall him and ezeli being connected.

Or are you saying we should target Ezili.  The warriors have no big men as it is. He is it when Bogut goes down and he is a roleplayer. A pretty good one but he is limited.