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Re: Someone other than the top two...
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2016, 01:23:43 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

Scal is awful, if you can't play in college then you most likely can't play in the pros. The host of ESPN combine were saying he had to turn pro because Kentucky class is so good he wouldn't play.

Skal is aweful ? Go to utube n watch Ben Simmons vs. Skal n tell me how many times Ben Simmons drove in on Skal. Also tell me how many blocked shots Skal recorded. That was the most idiotic response I've heard thus far smh

6pts, 3 rebounds and lost his job st Kentucky is all I need to know about the guy and he was old for a freshman.


Re: Someone other than the top two...
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2016, 01:28:17 PM »

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It's better to pick 3 imo for the simple fact the media and sites like espn like to slot these guys and tell teams who they are going to pick before they even make their selections.  Teams feel pressure to have to take a certain guy etc... The C's are lucky that way.

I dont see superstars this draft though outside maybe a couple guys.  There are some  very good to good players.

Strip away the hype people and use your brains. Espn are dummies.

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2016, 01:32:43 PM »

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It's better to pick 3 imo for the simple fact the media and sites like espn like to slot these guys and tell teams who they are going to pick before they even make their selections.  Teams feel pressure to have to take a certain guy etc... The C's are lucky that way.

I dont see superstars this draft though outside maybe a couple guys.  There are some  very good to good players.

Strip away the hype people and use your brains. Espn are dummies.

Dude what are you saying? No GM chooses a player based on how ESPN ranks them. If anything, ESPN ranks them based on what these GMs and scouts tell them.
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Re: Someone other than the top two...
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2016, 01:34:33 PM »

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It's better to pick 3 imo for the simple fact the media and sites like espn like to slot these guys and tell teams who they are going to pick before they even make their selections.  Teams feel pressure to have to take a certain guy etc... The C's are lucky that way.

I dont see superstars this draft though outside maybe a couple guys.  There are some  very good to good players.

Strip away the hype people and use your brains. Espn are dummies.

Dude what are you saying? No GM chooses a player based on how ESPN ranks them. If anything, ESPN ranks them based on what these GMs and scouts tell them.

But it's just a consensus and then we wonder why fans boo when teams then select someone else.  It's mindless nonsense.

Every year espn hypes up some guy.  He is the poster boy while Porzingis gets booed and turns out to be pretty [dang] good.

Espn is brainless that way.

Re: Someone other than the top two...
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2016, 01:34:43 PM »

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Nobody in the NBA is dumb enough to draft Brown over Murray.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/3/19/11266100/jaylen-brown-nba-draft-2016-california-ncaa-tournament-disaster
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/03/28/jaylen-brown/
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/nba-draft-2016-jaylen-brown-cal-scouting-report/u1a1j5atvpmr1o00ukxo7ve5chttp://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/04/22/marquese-chriss-jaylen-brown-dragan-bender-thon-maker-nba-draft/83396256/
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25569893/nba-draft-jaylen-brown-is-a-top-5-talent-yet-unfinished-project

Brown is going like 5th or 6th at absolute best.  Bender is a way safer pick than him.

Except maybe Danny.

Danny is too smart for that.  Today's NBA is all about spacing the floor and knocking down shots.  I think the Atlanta series made that loud and clear.  I am in the Murray camp.  His numbers as a true freshman were impressive.  20 /5 while shooting 46/41/78 and over 50% from 2.  This teams needs either Murray or Hield. 

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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2016, 01:40:36 PM »

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Jaylen brown is big and physical and can attack the rim.  His shot is coming. The nba is also about having physical guards and wing players.  Brown is 6'7" and a legit SF/sg.  Hield is strictly a sg and a a shooter and Murray is a combo guard.

Draymond Green turned out alright.  Brown is like a more athletic version of that and less of a shooter right now.

It's one year of college.  Green was  in school longer than that.

Jason Richardson was a very good player for a long time for GS before they got Green.

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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2016, 01:43:26 PM »

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We need shooting.  We have Marcus and Crowder who are big and physical for us to go with Isaiah and Bradley as our shooters right now.  But Brown is big and physical.  I'm not 100 percent sold on Crowder.  Brown is a better player than Murray or Hield.  BRadley would be the guy to upgrade but Murray and Hield aren't going to supplant him right away.

It takes a good mix.  The nba and how to do things isn't set in stone.  There is no written formula.  I'd rather build a balanced team of shooters, physical guards and big men. That works.  Having all the pieces.

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2016, 01:43:32 PM »

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Nobody in the NBA is dumb enough to draft Brown over Murray.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/3/19/11266100/jaylen-brown-nba-draft-2016-california-ncaa-tournament-disaster
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/03/28/jaylen-brown/
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/nba-draft-2016-jaylen-brown-cal-scouting-report/u1a1j5atvpmr1o00ukxo7ve5chttp://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/04/22/marquese-chriss-jaylen-brown-dragan-bender-thon-maker-nba-draft/83396256/
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25569893/nba-draft-jaylen-brown-is-a-top-5-talent-yet-unfinished-project

Brown is going like 5th or 6th at absolute best.  Bender is a way safer pick than him.

Except maybe Danny.

Danny is too smart for that.  Today's NBA is all about spacing the floor and knocking down shots.  I think the Atlanta series made that loud and clear.  I am in the Murray camp.  His numbers as a true freshman were impressive.  20 /5 while shooting 46/41/78 and over 50% from 2.  This teams needs either Murray or Hield.

I like Buddy Hield a lot, but I would not use a #3 on him. He looks like an amazing, pure shooter role-player to me.
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Re: Someone other than the top two...
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2016, 01:51:41 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

Scal is awful, if you can't play in college then you most likely can't play in the pros. The host of ESPN combine were saying he had to turn pro because Kentucky class is so good he wouldn't play.

So I took your advice and I looked up the LSU and Kentucky game.  Simmons had 14/10 and shot 5 for 5 from the field and his team won by 18pts??  3 assist, 2 steals and shot 4 for 6 from the line.  I think you may have your games confused.  Skal's best game came against Stoney Brook ad NJIT....the guy is a bust...

Skal is aweful ? Go to utube n watch Ben Simmons vs. Skal n tell me how many times Ben Simmons drove in on Skal. Also tell me how many blocked shots Skal recorded. That was the most idiotic response I've heard thus far smh

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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2016, 01:52:47 PM »

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I'm obviously very pro-Kris Dunn. I think Henry Ellenson is a guy we might look back and think "how the hell was he overlooked?"

There's not a ton of guys in the league right now who can score inside and outside like he can.
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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2016, 02:03:28 PM »

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Nobody in the NBA is dumb enough to draft Brown over Murray.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/3/19/11266100/jaylen-brown-nba-draft-2016-california-ncaa-tournament-disaster
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/03/28/jaylen-brown/
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/nba-draft-2016-jaylen-brown-cal-scouting-report/u1a1j5atvpmr1o00ukxo7ve5chttp://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/04/22/marquese-chriss-jaylen-brown-dragan-bender-thon-maker-nba-draft/83396256/
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25569893/nba-draft-jaylen-brown-is-a-top-5-talent-yet-unfinished-project

Brown is going like 5th or 6th at absolute best.  Bender is a way safer pick than him.

Except maybe Danny.

Danny is too smart for that.  Today's NBA is all about spacing the floor and knocking down shots.  I think the Atlanta series made that loud and clear.  I am in the Murray camp.  His numbers as a true freshman were impressive.  20 /5 while shooting 46/41/78 and over 50% from 2.  This teams needs either Murray or Hield.

I like Buddy Hield a lot, but I would not use a #3 on him. He looks like an amazing, pure shooter role-player to me.

Yep. He looks like Ben Gordon 2.0, which would be nice to have, but not for the #3 pick.

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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2016, 02:09:11 PM »

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All these guys are young and we are drafting on potential.   Hield's upside isn't that great. Bender and Brown are really good prospects imo.  I dont know if we are going to want to wait regardless.  Ainge seems to think you have to build with vets.  I like this draft though.  Ainge has missed out on really good players in the past. It would be nice to get someone really good here to go with Marcus. 

Crowder is alright.  So is KO.  And Bradley.  We have a pretty good team but We need star talent.  Getting hield doesn't do a whole lot for me. Neither does Murray really.

I think you draft based on upside especially at 3.  Unless we are trading the pick.


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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2016, 02:13:51 PM »

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Isaiah is the one borderline star we have right now.  Our team is somewhat overrated that way.  I even think Isaiah is somewhat overrated.  I think it's somewhat of a myth that he is pierce here and we are going to get Paul George or Durant or whoever to go with him. Stevens did a good job with this team and is maximizing our assets. That's why it's important not to tank.

We have the nets picks the next 3 years. We can either trade and build around Isaiah or through the draft.

You have to gamble in the draft though when you are this high. You don't take Buddy hield unless it's to trade him.

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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2016, 02:18:47 PM »

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We aren't this team that needs shooting and somehow we are going to be a championship team is what I'm saying. Drafting Hield or Murray is pointless for us that way.  We aren't at that point where we draft for need and roleplayers. Hield wins us nothing.

You take the best talent period. Trade Crowder or Isaiah if we need to. Or even the player we draft.
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