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Someone other than the top two...
« on: May 18, 2016, 12:52:45 PM »

Offline droopdog7

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...will be the best player from this draft.

Anyone buy in to this idea?  Ingram will be good but he isn't a franchise prospect IMO.  Something similar to Jabari Parker I think. 

Simmons is the real wildcard.  Multi-skilled for sure but how much will the shooting hold him back?  He'll always struggle with that aspect IMO and depending it all depends on whether he can become decent or develop at a consistent spot. 

I don't seen any obvious player with star potential behind them but the point is I don't think the top two are as sure as people think.  Both have question marks that could hold them back.  This isn't the tim duncan lottery or even the oden-durant lottery. 

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2016, 12:54:36 PM »

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I agree.  It's Bender and Brown.  Luwawu also has good potential. So does Deyonte Davis.  I think those guys are gone before 16 though.  I think they are more going to be guys like really good roleplayers like Whiteside or a poor man's ginobli though.  I don't see a ton of superstars this draft. I see a lot of good players though. 

I think this is more going to be a draft where Simmons and Ingram take a while and never reach superstar status and a lot of good pieces come out of this draft. 

Hield and Murray are going to be good players.  So are a lot of guys.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2016, 12:58:52 PM »

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I think there are going to be a lot of rumors between us and phoenix and who we take.  Same with at the top. There is nothing set in stone this draft.


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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2016, 01:00:14 PM »

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Dunn could be a stud.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2016, 01:02:09 PM »

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I think people judge players too much on one year of college.  It's  no different than BEnder not playing overseas because they know he is going to the NBA.  Way too much on players though that basically have one year of experience outside of highschool.

KG was a highschooler and so was Kobe.  I don't see Bender or Brown on those guys levels.  I see Brown as a jason richardson type.  I see bender as better than that.

I see a lot of good players coming out this draft and it's a pretty even playing field.  All these guys are going to take time.  the same can be said about Simmons.  He didn't even make the tourney.

People are saying Bender is such a project when Simmons or Ingram isn't?  They are all kind of on the same level. 

I see a lot of good players this draft. The media painted it as a 2 player  draft.

How is Simmons or Ingram going to come in and save franchises and Bender isn't? I don't get that though.

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2016, 01:06:33 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2016, 01:08:48 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

Scal is awful, if you can't play in college then you most likely can't play in the pros. The host of ESPN combine were saying he had to turn pro because Kentucky class is so good he wouldn't play.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2016, 01:12:31 PM »

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I think people judge players too much on one year of college.  It's  no different than BEnder not playing overseas because they know he is going to the NBA.  Way too much on players though that basically have one year of experience outside of highschool.

KG was a highschooler and so was Kobe.  I don't see Bender or Brown on those guys levels.  I see Brown as a jason richardson type.  I see bender as better than that.

I see a lot of good players coming out this draft and it's a pretty even playing field.  All these guys are going to take time.  the same can be said about Simmons.  He didn't even make the tourney.

People are saying Bender is such a project when Simmons or Ingram isn't?  They are all kind of on the same level. 

I see a lot of good players this draft. The media painted it as a 2 player  draft.

How is Simmons or Ingram going to come in and save franchises and Bender isn't? I don't get that though.
I think you look around the draft and there are a lot of players with superstar bodies.

Ingram, Simmons, Dunn and Hield(Ill get back to this dont freak out), Maker, Lab, Bender, even guys like Deyonta Davis and Jaylen Brown.

The reason it is shown as a two player draft is that Ingram and Simmons are the only two to show they have the skillset and can produce at a competitive level.

Dunn and Hield have age/ceiling concerns. Brown Lab and Maker look like great athletes who never learned how to play basketball and Bender is just a total mystery.

Thats my take. We must keep in mind I am currently trying to convince myself the 3rd pick is good so this post has some bias.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2016, 01:13:45 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

Scal is awful, if you can't play in college then you most likely can't play in the pros. The host of ESPN combine were saying he had to turn pro because Kentucky class is so good he wouldn't play.

Skal is aweful ? Go to utube n watch Ben Simmons vs. Skal n tell me how many times Ben Simmons drove in on Skal. Also tell me how many blocked shots Skal recorded. That was the most idiotic response I've heard thus far smh

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 01:15:37 PM »

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I want bender and had him as my #1 player but I see the draft going someting like this. I don't see many superstars. I see some very good to good players in the top 10-15 though.  Some busts.  I don't see superstars.  Simmons and Bender probably have the most ability there to me. Ingram will be very good.  Brown will be too.  I think Hield, Murray, Dunn, Ellenson are good players.  Some bust potential there.  Luwawu and Davis has the most ability to rise imo and should go top 10. Skal, Brice and Poeltl have some potential to move up over guys like Ellenson and dunn and even Hield. Good college players.

1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Bender
4. Brown
5. Hield
6. Murray
7.  Dunn
8. Ellenson
9. Luwawu
10. Davis
11. Poeltl
12. Brice Johnson
13. Skal
« Last Edit: May 18, 2016, 01:21:02 PM by walker834 »

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2016, 01:15:53 PM »

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Buddy Heild & Skal Labisierre are going to be the 2 best players from this draft and the Celtics have the options to get both

Scal is awful, if you can't play in college then you most likely can't play in the pros. The host of ESPN combine were saying he had to turn pro because Kentucky class is so good he wouldn't play.

Skal is aweful ? Go to utube n watch Ben Simmons vs. Skal n tell me how many times Ben Simmons drove in on Skal. Also tell me how many blocked shots Skal recorded. That was the most idiotic response I've heard thus far smh
Labisierre is bad.

You cant drop from projected # 1 to projected late lotto without being bad or getting injured. Actually, were he to have torn his ACL in week one of Kentucky's season he actually might be projected higher today.
 
7 points and 3 boards a game is not very good.

He has a high ceiling and seems like hes a solid defender. Thats all right now.

Id love to get him with a later pick.

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2016, 01:16:51 PM »

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You know, despite all the red flags, there's still a chance Thon Maker has some real potential and blows everyone away in workouts.

I'm not super optimistic, but the chance is there.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2016, 01:18:18 PM »

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I don't think Lab is bad. He's got good shot blocking and he can score in the paint. I don't see how anyone can call him bad. That's just absurd. I'd rather have Also then Bender lol

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 01:20:13 PM »

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If we can jump up n get Skal at 9-12 it would be worth it