What happens if nobody offers him a deal. Do the Celts have to sign him? Or if the Celts don't he becomes a ufa?
Gota feeling if nobody signs him, Danny will for a 3 year 6-7 million a year
I think we can relinquish our rights on him. We have rights which means we can also relinquish them and he becomes unrestricted. the celtics haven't done that as of yet though is the point. So there's still a chance lol.
Ainge is going to let everything and the process to play out anyways. Keeping him restricted causes other teams to bid etc.. Keeps options open for sign and trades etc I believe as well.
He has a $3.2 million qualifying offer. If we extend a QO, he becomes a RFA. If he is a RFA, we have the right to match each offer he gets. If he doesn't get any offers (including from the Celtics), he can just sign the QO and play for that.
If he signs the QO we have effectively signed him, so yeah -- he has to play for us. To the extent to which the QO is a cap hold as soon as it becomes extended, this is largely an irrelevant scenario, though. I am not sure what the rules are about rescinding QOs.
Also, Wyc's "two max contracts" only work if we non-tended Sullinger, Johnson, Jerebko and Turner, so I'm not sure it's really going to happen the way he describes it.
A few things:
1) Sully's QO will be $4.43 million, because he met the starter criteria, which gives him the same QO as the 9th pick in his draft. Any other number you read is wrong.
2) His cap hold is $5.67 million. If we do not renounce him, regardless of whether or not we've extended a QO, he will count this much against our cap until he is signed. If he signs the QO, he obviously then takes up the amount of his new contract.
3) The QO can be rescinded unilaterally until July 23rd, assuming he hasn't signed it by then. If the Celtics need the space for a free agent, they can take back the offer and renounce him, making him an unrestricted free agent with no Bird rights.
4) The Celtics CAN keep some combination of Turner, Sullinger, Jerebko, and maybe even Amir, AND sign two max free agents -- depending, of course, on what a given free agent's max contract is. They've got room for Durant and Horford, but Barnes and Whiteside would each command about $5.5 million less if given the max, creating $11 million more cap space if both were signed instead of Durant and Horford. If they get one from Column A and one from Column B, they could keep one of Turner, Sullinger, and Jerebko. Depending where their draft picks finish up, how high the cap goes, and a few other details, the C's could have a lot of wiggle room even after two maxes.
Great Post. Amazed about the "rescind QO by July 23" thing, news to me. Surely someone gives him an offer before then though. Do you on what date teams can start making offers to Sully?
Teams can start negotiating with him on July 1st, same as any other free agent. He can sign an offer sheet with another team July 11th, I think (whatever that Monday is, since the 10th falls on a Sunday). If he signs an offer sheet, the C's have three days to match it, although they can accept or decline at any point during this period. Once an offer sheet has been submitted to the C's, they have two choices -- accept or decline. They cannot negotiate a sign-and-trade at this point. However, prior to the offer sheet's submission, they could negotiate such a deal, and complete a sign-and-trade rather than just choosing to decline the offer sheet.
Furthermore, if Sullinger were to sign an offer sheet that the C's matched, then he could not be traded for one year. Also, any offer must be for at least two seasons, not including options.
