Tier 2 Free Agents

[jmen788]

It seems like the remote possibility of KD coming to Boston is growing even more remote with each passing day, and Danny Ainge is obviously smart enough to have contingency plans. I would definitely give Whiteside the max as he's young and put up great numbers 2 years in a row. If we got him and then either kept our pick if it's top two, or traded it for Butler, then I think we would be a much improved team with a chance to get that much better in the 2017 FA class (which has much more quantity and quality than this years).

Let's not get greedy - if we can get KD then great, but in the likely event we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

[vgulab]

If Durant sign with Warriors let's get Barnes

[gift]

There's free agency, but there's also the trade market. We could strike out in free agency and still have the assets to acquire a Tier 1 guy via trade.

If we strike out in both, I'd be open to certain Tier 2 guys but not a necessity.

[jmen788]

There's free agency, but there's also the trade market. We could strike out in free agency and still have the assets to acquire a Tier 1 guy via trade.

If we strike out in both, I'd be open to certain Tier 2 guys but not a necessity.

I truly believe a tier 1 guy wanting to come here in FA or trade is much higher if we have already landed Whiteside. I also like the idea of not needing to use assets to get Whiteside so that we can use those assets to get someone like Jimmy Butler. Then Durant or someone else very good will be likely to join our team next year.

[wdleehi]

we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

It is not that he is "beneath us."   


It is a question of whether he is really worth the amount that some team is going to pay to get him and is he really mature enough to take the chance.



What really stands out to me is that Miami doesn't seem to be looking to make the moves to be able to afford to keep him.   If he really was worth the max, I have no doubt the Heat would do what they need to do to keep him.

[jmen788]

we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

It is not that he is "beneath us."   


It is a question of whether he is really worth the amount that some team is going to pay to get him and is he really mature enough to take the chance.



What really stands out to me is that Miami doesn't seem to be looking to make the moves to be able to afford to keep him.   If he really was worth the max, I have no doubt the Heat would do what they need to do to keep him.

Most recent reports say they do want to keep him...and even if they didn't, they have tons of FA options that we don't due to their location, history, and slick hair grease Riley. I think offering him a bigger role could be a tiebreaker. He gets 12/12/4 and shoots 55% FTs compared to Drummond who shoots 30%...he's going to also get better.

[saltlover]

we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

It is not that he is "beneath us."   


It is a question of whether he is really worth the amount that some team is going to pay to get him and is he really mature enough to take the chance.



What really stands out to me is that Miami doesn't seem to be looking to make the moves to be able to afford to keep him.   If he really was worth the max, I have no doubt the Heat would do what they need to do to keep him.

Most recent reports say they do want to keep him...and even if they didn't, they have tons of FA options that we don't due to their location, history, and slick hair grease Riley. I think offering him a bigger role could be a tiebreaker. He gets 12/12/4 and shoots 55% FTs compared to Drummond who shoots 30%...he's going to also get better.

Is he really going to get better? He's 27 in June.  The average NBA player has his peak season at 26.  It's not impossible he gets better (hence the definition of average), but I would say it's not probable, and the amount of improvement is likely to be minimal if it occurs at all.

There are reasons to consider Whiteside, but "he's going to get better" should not be on the list.

[jmen788]

we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

It is not that he is "beneath us."   


It is a question of whether he is really worth the amount that some team is going to pay to get him and is he really mature enough to take the chance.



What really stands out to me is that Miami doesn't seem to be looking to make the moves to be able to afford to keep him.   If he really was worth the max, I have no doubt the Heat would do what they need to do to keep him.

Most recent reports say they do want to keep him...and even if they didn't, they have tons of FA options that we don't due to their location, history, and slick hair grease Riley. I think offering him a bigger role could be a tiebreaker. He gets 12/12/4 and shoots 55% FTs compared to Drummond who shoots 30%...he's going to also get better.

Is he really going to get better? He's 27 in June.  The average NBA player has his peak season at 26.  It's not impossible he gets better (hence the definition of average), but I would say it's not probable, and the amount of improvement is likely to be minimal if it occurs at all.

There are reasons to consider Whiteside, but "he's going to get better" should not be on the list.

Sorry, esse, but I have to disagree with you once again. He's not your typical player - he was out of the league and only got his real chance at age 25. Once he got that shot he had a great year, and then improved a lot this year as well. Points, free throw percentage, rebounds and blocks went up a lot... Plus with Wade and Bosh he's not such a focal point whereas he could be here, this getting more points.

[CoachBo]

It seems like the remote possibility of KD coming to Boston is growing even more remote with each passing day, and Danny Ainge is obviously smart enough to have contingency plans. I would definitely give Whiteside the max as he's young and put up great numbers 2 years in a row. If we got him and then either kept our pick if it's top two, or traded it for Butler, then I think we would be a much improved team with a chance to get that much better in the 2017 FA class (which has much more quantity and quality than this years).

Let's not get greedy - if we can get KD then great, but in the likely event we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

Whiteside is hardly a stud. He cannot shoot, and this roster doesn't need another player who cannot shoot.

He is in no way worth the max, and signing him to that kind of deal would be yet another Ainge mistake.

[Csfan1984]

I would put Pau high on list of guys to add. He doesn't have a lot left in the tank but if he isn't over priced or signing long I like adding his experience to the club. Assuming AJ or Mickey play next to him the inside D will still be ok. He could help mentor any young big C's draft.

[mef730]

It seems like the remote possibility of KD coming to Boston is growing even more remote with each passing day, and Danny Ainge is obviously smart enough to have contingency plans. I would definitely give Whiteside the max as he's young and put up great numbers 2 years in a row. If we got him and then either kept our pick if it's top two, or traded it for Butler, then I think we would be a much improved team with a chance to get that much better in the 2017 FA class (which has much more quantity and quality than this years).

Let's not get greedy - if we can get KD then great, but in the likely event we can't let's not act like a stud a la Whiteside is beneath us!

Whiteside is hardly a stud. He cannot shoot, and this roster doesn't need another player who cannot shoot.

He is in no way worth the max, and signing him to that kind of deal would be yet another Ainge mistake.

Not to mention his locker room presence and questionable overall defensive plus/minus.

Mike

[TheSundanceKid]

My problem with Whiteside is unless you can teach him to step out with the 3 point shooting bigs, as in defend them, then his worth is going to diminish year on year. His shot blocking is fantastic no doubt. However the number of missed blocks that have led to easy putbacks is noticeable as well. He doesn't have the fundamentals of some of the better bigs in the league.

I think he's found a situation in Miami that really benefits him, I'd be worried his effectiveness would decline elsewhere.

[wdleehi]

Let be honest, if this wasn't the huge money years and it wasn't the max contract being thrown around with his name, take a chance on him would make more sense.

[celticmania]

Ryan Anderson

[elcotte]

Ryan Anderson

I agree.