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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2016, 10:45:19 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.
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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2016, 10:57:08 PM »

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I'll take the guy that can shoot. If Brown slips out of the top 10 it's because he lacks skill. We don't need another Kedrick Brown.
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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2016, 11:25:55 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

Yeah, seriously - he sounded very bright and articulate in his short interview with the announcers at the combine - very personable guy who smiled at the right times and seemed sincere doing throughout. I  figured if he was half as good in the actual interviews, he would now be a lock for the top 5.

He did say that he answered this 'riddle' from the Toronto interview correctly:

If it takes 5 minutes for 5 machines to make 5 things, how long does it take 100 machines to make 100 things? Even Andy Katz got it wrong  :D

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2016, 11:26:50 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

Bright and well-spoken do not necessarily mean someone is coachable or would be a good teammate.  Rondo always seemed bright and well-spoken, but those traits sometimes got in his way.

It could be a team feeding Ford something, but the Celtics interviewed him themselves, so they'll take away their own impression and not the anonymous ones given by others.  And if they liked him, they'll probably bring him in for a workout.  And if they don't, they're probably one of the interviews he bombed. 

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2016, 12:35:31 AM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2016, 01:32:50 AM »

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Not interested in Brown. If I'm taking a guard, it would be Dunn as the best two way gueuard or Hield as the best SG. Murray is behind both. Better still deal the pick if your not getting in the top 2.

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2016, 01:35:30 AM »

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Buddy. Hard worker. Great shooter. Keeps improving.

Me too. I think it should be traded if not top two, but at #3 if keeping it, I've moved to Buddy. 
Just not the kind of draft pick a team ever regrets.  I'm over the age thing between him and Murray. 
All in on Hield. 


Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2016, 01:44:22 AM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."
That sounds bad, hopefully he slips and it gives him so perspective.

The comment about him not having an agent yet is a good point though. A lot of the prospects are heavily coached before these interviews.
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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2016, 01:59:13 AM »

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Not over the age thing, I'll take Murray. When your a senior your playing against kids that are typically 2-4 years younger than you you've got years of development on your body. Jamal Murray essentially saved Kentucky's season as a freshman after Skal Labisierre had a rough start out of the gate.

That being said wouldn't mind Hield at all if that's the way the FO wants. I'd take them both over Jaylen Brown.

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2016, 02:25:12 AM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."
That sounds bad, hopefully he slips and it gives him so perspective.

The comment about him not having an agent yet is a good point though. A lot of the prospects are heavily coached before these interviews.

Pick some bad situations like 76ere and particularly the Kings andbi could see him purposely being **** to avoid them.
I guess he could avoid interviewing with them too if that's an option.
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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2016, 12:05:47 PM »

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Brown bbiq is average.  He is an "instincts" player though

So you ask him some basketball related questions and he is stuck.  and? 

To me it sounds like bc he was stuck, he resorted to "upping" himself

That one executive Ford is too "matter of fact"


I'm still high on Brown.  I like that he spoke about Kobe waking up at 5:30 am on a daily basis to get to where he is at , and he wants to do the same.   Unlike Simmons finished attending class, after basketball was over


Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2016, 12:18:02 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."

An athletic power forward who thinks he's a wing and overestimates his own abilities?  Sounds like Josh Smith 2.0 to me.

That said, I'd have no problem in taking Josh Smith 2.0 with the 16th pick.  Not sure I'd move heaven and earth to jump up beyond 16, but I would for a couple of seconds.  I would not want him at 5, however.

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2016, 12:24:59 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."

An athletic power forward who thinks he's a wing and overestimates his own abilities?  Sounds like Josh Smith 2.0 to me.

That said, I'd have no problem in taking Josh Smith 2.0 with the 16th pick.  Not sure I'd move heaven and earth to jump up beyond 16, but I would for a couple of seconds.  I would not want him at 5, however.

no offense, but why are you so easily swayed by "one" opinion?   

Brown is not a PF.  He is a true SF.    PFS don't move/handle the ball/finish around the rim like him.  And he certainly is not going to guard pfs in the NBA. Maybe in a pinch

Brown is an excellent prospect and if he cameback for a 2nd college season imo would do much better than he did his 1st

His shot needs work, he could raise court awareness , work on driving /finishing left, but otherwise he brings some impressive skills to the table.  And he sounds like he is going to put the work in to become better

Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2016, 12:49:42 PM »

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Ford said Jaylen Brown was terrible in interviews, and could very well drop out of the top 10.   Wow, I really had high hopes for him.
Did Ford elaborate? Brown is supposed to be a very bright and well spoken guy so this surprises me. It would surprise me less if a team fed Ford this info on the hopes that Brown slipped to them.

If Brown does slip out of the top 10 we should be doing anything we can to trade up from 16 and grab him.

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Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."
That sounds bad, hopefully he slips and it gives him so perspective.

The comment about him not having an agent yet is a good point though. A lot of the prospects are heavily coached before these interviews.
after reading reports such as the two bolded above, my head always feels as if it could explode.  :P
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Re: Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray?
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2016, 12:57:16 PM »

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I'd take Bender, Lab, Heild and Murray over Brown.