Brad Stevens outcoaching Mike Budenholzer?

[Tr1boy]

What you guys think?   Seems like CBS after timeouts always has a counterattack and Bud seems "stuck".  Well in the last 2 games and portion of game 1

How good is CBS out of timesouts?  Reminds me of Doc Rivers excellent draw ups after time outs

This is a heck of a series and a big chunk is a chess game and another part a teams will to win

Nice job by CBS (not in any order)

1. insert Jerebko in the starting lineup
2. rozier on teague/schroder parts of the game
3. Smart on the redhot Millsap late in the game
4.  Anytime the Hawks went on a run or we were dry on the offensive end "figure out" how to get out of a jam.   Either guard at the 3 pt line better, or dump to Amir in the post , have heads turning then passing the ball around

Fortunately for the Celts the Hawks don't have that "one" guy that can score anywhere on the court (Millsap the closest) and on the other end a legit rim protector

[Who]

Stevens out-coached first 2 games.
Budenholzer out-coached last 2 games.

Stevens in the driving seat. Budenholzer needs response to Stevens' lineup changes.

[alldaboston]

Brad has certainly done a great job. Bud also deserves some credit though. The Hawks coming back after down 20 to actually go ahead of us in Game 3 was great on his part.

[Tr1boy]

Stevens out-coached first 2 games.
Budenholzer out-coached last 2 games.

Stevens in the driving seat. Budenholzer needs response to Stevens' lineup changes.

They need to slow down IT.  But the issues is how?  They Don't really have anyone in their lineup that can keep up with him nor protect the rim against his drive to the basket.   I mean they are doing good job crowding the basket once IT gets past his man, but IT is doing a nice job finding the open man

If the hawks either had someone (like a AB)  or an explosive rim protector, they wouldn't have to all (or several players)  defend the basket and leave their man open.

The hawks had better luck playing semi zone and daring the celtics to shoot the 3.   It worked with Crowder struggling etc.   Not anymore. 

[Denis998]

Impressive what Brad was able to do following loosing AB and KO. Bud's team is injury free so far.

[Snakehead]

Brad has had to make adjustments and he has done them well.  I'm not sure what Budenholzer could do differently as a coach right now.

I think there is some of the fan obsession with coaches adjusting being the secret to every series when it's often the player's play going on here.

https://streamable.com/a5s3

Adjustments can be made and help, but often it's talent and how guys are playing.

[jambr380]

Impressive what Brad was able to do following loosing AB and KO. Bud's team is injury free so far.

Yeah, the injury difference is the deciding factor (although isn't Splitter on their team?).

I think if there was any debate, Bud's epic fail of a play call on the last possession of regulation has to give Brad the edge. I also agree that Brad is in the driver's seat now. Bud needs to adapt to what we're doing now.

[Snakehead]

I do think that final play call was a poor one for the Hawks but at the same time a simple iso is often the call for many teams.  Every Celtic fan who watched the Pierce years should know that. Not that I like it. 

I really love how Stevens is pretty much always running some sort of well thought out play when it counts.   His equivalent of the iso is probably those plays when he has IT run in the back court and really pick up speed and run off screens and those are smartly designed to use IT's speed and quickness.

There's a chance Teague hits the shot if it doesn't slip and the knock against Budenholzer would not really be even talked about.

[BitterJim]

Impressive what Brad was able to do following loosing AB and KO. Bud's team is injury free so far.

Yeah, the injury difference is the deciding factor (although isn't Splitter on their team?).

I think if there was any debate, Bud's epic fail of a play call on the last possession of regulation has to give Brad the edge. I also agree that Brad is in the driver's seat now. Bud needs to adapt to what we're doing now.

Sure, but he's played less than 40 games at 18 MPG, and he wouldn't be as useful against a small ball team like us, so I don't know that it's that much of a loss

[SCeltic34]

I just re-watched game 4.

With 45 seconds left to go in OT, you can see Stevens call the play from the sideline, and then instruct both Smart and Jerebko on where to go.  Smart sets the screen for ET, who made a heck of a move to split the defense and penetrate into the paint.  Jerebko runs to the top of the 3-point line, drawing Horford more towards the middle of the floor to give IT enough space to cut to the corner for the wide open dagger 3.

Absolutely masterful. 

Stevens has outcoached Bud in my opinion.  We have far less talent, far less playoff experience, and we're playing banged up and missing key players, yet we're rolling back to Atlanta tied 2-2 against a Hawks core that has played together for many years.  Major props to Stevens and our players.

[SCeltic34]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUy5E45p30

I guess you can't embed Youtube videos anymore.  The video starts a little bit too late, but you can at least see Stevens instructing Jerebko.  He was giving orders to Smart a few seconds earlier.

[Who]

I think Atlanta should have given some of Thabo's minutes to Tim Hardaway instead when they were struggling so badly from three point range. Hardaway a better shooter and slasher. Atlanta was desperate for scoring. I think that is something Budenholzer can do in next game(s).

[SHAQATTACK]

Stevens is like a MASTER chess player .  I think he see s the game develope before it actually does .

There is a fine line in being to quick to pull a player and inserting the correct man for the moment.

One thing for sure ......Smart is pretty clear headed and decisive under pressure , doesn't hesitate to execute the play with the game on the line .  even if he is a poor shooter himself , he seems to get the ball in play to set up a good look.

Stevens is wise to let him distribute / run the play for the game winner.   

[Tr1boy]

I think Atlanta should have given some of Thabo's minutes to Tim Hardaway instead when they were struggling so badly from three point range. Hardaway a better shooter and slasher. Atlanta was desperate for scoring. I think that is something Budenholzer can do in next game(s).

Exactly. Why did they obtain him then ?

He can get hot quick

[saltlover]

Stevens out-coached first 2 games.
Budenholzer out-coached last 2 games.

Stevens in the driving seat. Budenholzer needs response to Stevens' lineup changes.

Stevens was out-coached in game 2.  In game 1 he was out-reffed.