CBS comments on Crowder's shooting problems

[Tr1boy]

http://www.csnne.com/Boston-Celtics-Atlanta-Hawks-Jae-Crowder-determined-fix-shooting-woes

“I believe in the law of averages,” Stevens said. ”Jae’s been a good shooter all year. I have not lost one iota of sleep over that either; keep shooting it. He’s gonna be aggressive, we want him to be aggressive. He’s a big reason why we’re here.”

I got to say , what a coach.  Crowder will get out of this slump sooner than later

[jpotter33]

He supposedly went to the practice facility and shot for an hour or so until 1 am after the win the other night. He's been missing WIDE open looks. I think they'll start going down some time, and hopefully that's game 4.

[Tr1boy]

He supposedly went to the practice facility and shot for an hour or so until 1 am after the win the other night. He's been missing WIDE open looks. I think they'll start going down some time, and hopefully that's game 4.

Without him , we wouldn't be in this position in the 1st place. Need to trust he will bust out soon

[Tr1boy]

Crowder game winner vs Wizards. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2gnZvsGhsY

[jambr380]

Even if he doesn't this year, at least he has a very good excuse. Otherwise, you would hate for him to develop the reputation of a choke artist.

He was my new favorite player up until his injury. Of course that hasn't changed, but I am beginning to forget just how important he was, offensively.

Come on, Jae - I know you have it in you!

[green2k16]

Even if he doesn't this year, at least he has a very good excuse. Otherwise, you would hate for him to develop the reputation of a choke artist.

He was my new favorite player up until his injury. Of course that hasn't changed, but I am beginning to forget just how important he was, offensively.

Come on, Jae - I know you have it in you!

i highly doubt he develops that reputation


last year he may have been our best post season performer

[SHAQATTACK]

When your hurt   Your lift and rhythm of the shot changes and winds up clanging off the rim .

I doubt AB could hit a shot at all in a game with his injury .  Timing and lift so important .

[rollie mass]

what about marcus and his shot-he has had two seasons of injuries that effected lift ,first step and i keep saying his horrible shooting is do to his injuries to fingers and knee-
i was a shooter and had two severe ankle sprains-you come back your shot is off,you adjust to the injury finally and the as it becomes 100% there is another period of re adjustment or slump-its not just the downtime and these re adjustment periods or slumps get in your head
marcus may need the summer
crowder may just need a snow day

[gift]

This is what I was thinking during game 3. It's good to be able to win games while some players are not shooting well. If Crowder shoots well, we've got a good chance at winning and he's due to progress to the mean in the next game or two (or maybe longer).

[Celtics4ever]

When your hurt   Your lift and rhythm of the shot changes and winds up clanging off the rim .

I doubt AB could hit a shot at all in a game with his injury .  Timing and lift so important .

This is partially true, in that it effects your shot.   But I have seen guys with injuries still hit shots, it can be done, and has been done.  There comes a point where your 1-6 that you might want to consider not chucking up more shots like your hot.  At that point it becomes bad decision making and he was not in no way helping the team but shooting them.

 Good players find ways to compensate.   Crowder was a decent starter for part of the season and one could argue that he was the heart and soul of the team.  It is clear that his injury has hurt his game.   He should find other ways to compensate like attacking the rim.  But for heaven's sake do not just keep taking bad shot after bad shot, does he think he is Sully?

[Tr1boy]

When your hurt   Your lift and rhythm of the shot changes and winds up clanging off the rim .

I doubt AB could hit a shot at all in a game with his injury .  Timing and lift so important .

This is partially true, in that it effects your shot.   But I have seen guys with injuries still hit shots, it can be done, and has been done.  There comes a point where your 1-6 that you might want to consider not chucking up more shots like your hot.  At that point it becomes bad decision making and he was not in no way helping the team but shooting them.

 Good players find ways to compensate.   Crowder was a decent starter for part of the season and one could argue that he was the heart and soul of the team.  It is clear that his injury has hurt his game.   He should find other ways to compensate like attacking the rim.  But for heaven's sake do not just keep taking bad shot after bad shot, does he think he is Sully?

He didn't though. Atl was laying off of him and he took some pretty wide open shots and missed.

He shouldn't be shy of taking these shots

It's a shot he made all year long. 

I was disappointed he missed but the "right" play was executed

[Celtics4ever]

He shouldn't be shy of taking these shots

It's a shot he made all year long. 

I was disappointed he missed but the "right" play was executed

I disagree.  If you are not making them time after time, you hurt the team.  Taking a shot, your likely to miss, is not the right play.  He was 1-7 from downtown, at some point, I would like to see the light go off.   Of course, if he makes them all is well but he was not.  He was 1-11 from the field and 1-7 from the trey line.   I realize he is hurt and the like, but don't hurt the team by trying to be the hero when your not hitting shots.  I realize you can' t hit the next shot without taking it.   But one should feed the hot hand not the cold one.   That is the "right play ".  Sometimes it is not your night, so you do other things and adapt.

At least by adjusting and taking a drive, you throw the defense off guard and can penetrate and dish to a guy who might make the shot.  You also make get fouled on the drive.   Just bombing away when your not likely to hit them is not the right play.  They pack it in more because they do not have to play him honest.

I salute him for shooting after the win to try to remedy this.  Do you really think he would have done this, if he thought all was well?   I don't, this clearly implies he was not happy with his performance.   He is trying to fix his shot because it hurt the team.  He knows this or else he would have went home like the rest of these guys.

I love Crowder, but I was cringing on a lot of those wide open shots that he missed.   Some of them came at critical points at a game.   Good players, play within their game, and change their game when things are not going their way.  I also, cringe sometimes when Jonas takes a layup.

[alldaboston]

He shouldn't be shy of taking these shots

It's a shot he made all year long. 

I was disappointed he missed but the "right" play was executed

I disagree.  If you are not making them time after time, you hurt the team.  Taking a shot, your likely to miss, is not the right play. He was 1-7 from downtown, at some point, I would like to see the light go off.   Of course, if he makes them all is well but he was not.  He was 1-11 from the field and 1-7 from the trey line.   I realize he is hurt and the like, but don't hurt the team by trying to be the hero when your not hitting shots.  I realize you can' t hit the next shot without taking it.   But one should feed the hot hand not the cold one.   That is the "right play ".  Sometimes it is not your night, so you do other things and adapt.

At least by adjusting and taking a drive, you throw the defense off guard and can penetrate and dish to a guy who might make the shot.  You also make get fouled on the drive.   Just bombing away when your not likely to hit them is not the right play.  They pack it in more because they do not have to play him honest.

I salute him for shooting after the win to try to remedy this.  Do you really think he would have done this, if he thought all was well?   I don't, this clearly implies he was not happy with his performance.   He is trying to fix his shot because it hurt the team.  He knows this or else he would have went home like the rest of these guys.

I love Crowder, but I was cringing on a lot of those wide open shots that he missed.   Some of them came at critical points at a game.   Good players, play within their game, and change their game when things are not going their way.  I also, cringe sometimes when Jonas takes a layup.

But see, we can't say he's likely to miss it. True, he was 1/11, but he's made those shots all year. One can argue that shot making is an independent event, such that the result of one shot (make/miss) doesn't affect the results of the next shot. Granted, there are other confounding variables, like defense and difficulty of shot, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a shot he's likely to miss. Especially when he's made those shots all year.

You also cut this out of the previous response. So I'll just put it here:

he took some pretty wide open shots and missed.

[Tr1boy]

He shouldn't be shy of taking these shots

It's a shot he made all year long. 

I was disappointed he missed but the "right" play was executed

I disagree.  If you are not making them time after time, you hurt the team.  Taking a shot, your likely to miss, is not the right play. He was 1-7 from downtown, at some point, I would like to see the light go off.   Of course, if he makes them all is well but he was not.  He was 1-11 from the field and 1-7 from the trey line.   I realize he is hurt and the like, but don't hurt the team by trying to be the hero when your not hitting shots.  I realize you can' t hit the next shot without taking it.   But one should feed the hot hand not the cold one.   That is the "right play ".  Sometimes it is not your night, so you do other things and adapt.

At least by adjusting and taking a drive, you throw the defense off guard and can penetrate and dish to a guy who might make the shot.  You also make get fouled on the drive.   Just bombing away when your not likely to hit them is not the right play.  They pack it in more because they do not have to play him honest.

I salute him for shooting after the win to try to remedy this.  Do you really think he would have done this, if he thought all was well?   I don't, this clearly implies he was not happy with his performance.   He is trying to fix his shot because it hurt the team.  He knows this or else he would have went home like the rest of these guys.

I love Crowder, but I was cringing on a lot of those wide open shots that he missed.   Some of them came at critical points at a game.   Good players, play within their game, and change their game when things are not going their way.  I also, cringe sometimes when Jonas takes a layup.

But see, we can't say he's likely to miss it. True, he was 1/11, but he's made those shots all year. One can argue that shot making is an independent event, such that the result of one shot (make/miss) doesn't affect the results of the next shot. Granted, there are other confounding variables, like defense and difficulty of shot, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a shot he's likely to miss. Especially when he's made those shots all year.

You also cut this out of the previous response. So I'll just put it here:

he took some pretty wide open shots and missed.

exactly.  Crowder is hard on himself too. 

He will keep shooting after games/practice/day off until he gets it back

[Celtics4ever]

But see, we can't say he's likely to miss it. True, he was 1/11, but he's made those shots all year. One can argue that shot making is an independent event, such that the result of one shot (make/miss) doesn't affect the results of the next shot. Granted, there are other confounding variables, like defense and difficulty of shot, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a shot he's likely to miss. Especially when he's made those shots all year.

He shot 44% from the field all year, and 33% from downtown.   Hardly, lights out this year folks let us not rewrite history by acting like he was ever Curry.

We can say thus far in the playoffs he was going to miss it.   Here are his playoff stats, not opinion.  In the Playoff s he is shooting  19.4% from the field and 16.7% from downtown.  Would you tell a guy who launch 11 eleven shots to keep firing at those rates.

He will keep shooting after games/practice/day off until he gets it back

Agree

Crowder is hard on himself too. 

Because he realizes what you two seem incapable of realizing that those shooting percentages were and are unacceptable.

I want us to win and him to succeed.  I am sure you two do as well!