Why I don't like M Smart any more for the foreseeable future.

[Roy H.]

I'm not impressed by Rozier/Smart comparisons. Smart has an elite skill. Rozier is a dime a dozen player at this moment. He might improve greatly, but he is pretty generic right now. Smart gets more minutes because the coach thinks he will have a bigger impact on the game than Rozier. The players are the exact same age, 22 and born in March 1994, which makes it a little simpler when forecasting the future.

I'm not sure why people are bringing the term 'all-star' into discussions about Rozier. I suppose every single young player in the NBA could one day be an all star. But he is so far from differentiating himself. I feel like he will be a rotation guy by next season, but that is a very low bar.

Yeah, you see flashes from Rozier, but you're going to see flashes from even borderline NBA players.

The kid didn't shoot 31% from the floor in any single month, and didn't has a TS% above .375 in any month.  That's wretched.

[Celtics4ever]

In retrospect, I can see a few guys I would rather have than Smart in this draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NBA_draft

He is an elite defender though, and make plays in every aspect save shooting and scoring.

Good breakdown of the players after one year of the draft.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2014-nba-redraft-draft-andrew-wiggins-jabari-parker-joel-embiid-060515

One could argue that Nurkic and LaVine  and Rodney Hood are better prospects going forward.  If Smart develops a shot maybe not.

[Roy H.]

In retrospect, I can see a few guys I would rather have than Smart in this draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NBA_draft

He is an elite defender though, and make plays in every aspect save shooting and scoring.

Good breakdown of the players after one year of the draft.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2014-nba-redraft-draft-andrew-wiggins-jabari-parker-joel-embiid-060515

One could argue that Nurkic and LaVine  and Rodney Hood are better prospects going forward.  If Smart develops a shot maybe not.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2014.html

To date, that's been one lousy draft class.

[kraidstar]

I'm not impressed by Rozier/Smart comparisons. Smart has an elite skill. Rozier is a dime a dozen player at this moment. He might improve greatly, but he is pretty generic right now. Smart gets more minutes because the coach thinks he will have a bigger impact on the game than Rozier. The players are the exact same age, 22 and born in March 1994, which makes it a little simpler when forecasting the future.

I'm not sure why people are bringing the term 'all-star' into discussions about Rozier. I suppose every single young player in the NBA could one day be an all star. But he is so far from differentiating himself. I feel like he will be a rotation guy by next season, but that is a very low bar.

Yeah, you see flashes from Rozier, but you're going to see flashes from even borderline NBA players.

The kid didn't shoot 31% from the floor in any single month, and didn't has a TS% above .375 in any month.  That's wretched.

he's played 311 minutes for his career on a team already pretty well-stocked with ball handlers/guards. tiny sample size.

i've watched him play in maine live many times, those "flashes" will become a lot more frequent once he gets time at the NBA level. from what i've seen, he is good at literally everything, and is just "OK" at spot up shooting. he is a very good athlete and can impose his will physically, as we saw in game 2 against the hawks. add to that his defensive IQ, ball handling and diverse offense, and you have the recipe for a potentially very good NBA player.

and i do think those skills will translate. he's a much, much. better prospect than a guy like james young. just needs some PT.

[celtics2030]

HE is not a very good athlete
 

hes a good hustler

[celtics2030]

I'm not impressed by Rozier/Smart comparisons. Smart has an elite skill. Rozier is a dime a dozen player at this moment. He might improve greatly, but he is pretty generic right now. Smart gets more minutes because the coach thinks he will have a bigger impact on the game than Rozier. The players are the exact same age, 22 and born in March 1994, which makes it a little simpler when forecasting the future.

I'm not sure why people are bringing the term 'all-star' into discussions about Rozier. I suppose every single young player in the NBA could one day be an all star. But he is so far from differentiating himself. I feel like he will be a rotation guy by next season, but that is a very low bar.

Yeah, you see flashes from Rozier, but you're going to see flashes from even borderline NBA players.

The kid didn't shoot 31% from the floor in any single month, and didn't has a TS% above .375 in any month.  That's wretched.

he's played 311 minutes for his career on a team already pretty well-stocked with ball handlers/guards. tiny sample size.

i've watched him play in maine live many times, those "flashes" will become a lot more frequent once he gets time at the NBA level. from what i've seen, he is good at literally everything, and is just "OK" at spot up shooting. he is a very good athlete and can impose his will physically, as we saw in game 2 against the hawks. add to that his defensive IQ, ball handling and diverse offense, and you have the recipe for a potentially very good NBA player.

and i do think those skills will translate. he's a much, much. better prospect than a guy like james young. just needs some PT.

James Young reeks

Marcus Smart not a very good athlete, not even close compared to he average NBA player that is good.

He has very average ball handling skills.

The recipe is mixed.

His defensive prowess and termination plus hustle is what is saving Smart. For me that is enough to have him on the team.

[Roy H.]

I'm not impressed by Rozier/Smart comparisons. Smart has an elite skill. Rozier is a dime a dozen player at this moment. He might improve greatly, but he is pretty generic right now. Smart gets more minutes because the coach thinks he will have a bigger impact on the game than Rozier. The players are the exact same age, 22 and born in March 1994, which makes it a little simpler when forecasting the future.

I'm not sure why people are bringing the term 'all-star' into discussions about Rozier. I suppose every single young player in the NBA could one day be an all star. But he is so far from differentiating himself. I feel like he will be a rotation guy by next season, but that is a very low bar.

Yeah, you see flashes from Rozier, but you're going to see flashes from even borderline NBA players.

The kid didn't shoot 31% from the floor in any single month, and didn't has a TS% above .375 in any month.  That's wretched.

he's played 311 minutes for his career on a team already pretty well-stocked with ball handlers/guards. tiny sample size.

i've watched him play in maine live many times, those "flashes" will become a lot more frequent once he gets time at the NBA level. from what i've seen, he is good at literally everything, and is just "OK" at spot up shooting. he is a very good athlete and can impose his will physically, as we saw in game 2 against the hawks. add to that his defensive IQ, ball handling and diverse offense, and you have the recipe for a potentially very good NBA player.

and i do think those skills will translate. he's a much, much. better prospect than a guy like james young. just needs some PT.

Quite possibly, but until I see a track record, I'm going to temper my expectations. I'm not making any negative predictions, but I do think projecting Rozier to be a starter is premature.

[mctyson]

He hasn't been as good as I expected, but I love the defense, fire and confidence. The Tony Allen comparisons really seem apt to me right now. I hope he'll become more, but if he can give a decade of elite defense, it's hard to complain.

1st team All NBA defenders, which I think Smart will be very soon, are probably perfectly legitimate top 10 picks.

[Roy H.]

He hasn't been as good as I expected, but I love the defense, fire and confidence. The Tony Allen comparisons really seem apt to me right now. I hope he'll become more, but if he can give a decade of elite defense, it's hard to complain.

1st team All NBA defenders, which I think Smart will be very soon, are probably perfectly legitimate top 10 picks.

Yeah, being truly elite on one side of the ball makes him extremely useful. Plus, because offense drives contracts, there's a good chance Marcus gets undervalued and we can retain him for relatively cheap.

[Ilikesports17]

HE is not a very good athlete
 

hes a good hustler

He is terrible in terms of one legged explosion. This hurts him getting to and finishing at the basket a lot. However his lateral quickness and strength is elite and his two legged explosion is not bad.

[PaulP34]

Man I'm not crazy about Smart either. I don't care about his looks. I don't think he's terrible but he can't shoot n his flopping is played out. Maybe this 5,000 fine will stop that. I wouldn't mind him being traded in the off season if we can compensate more offense in wake of his defense. I never liked that pick by Ainge to begin with...

[Eja117]

I think it's pretty telling that Avery is hurt, but Marcus' minutes aren't going up and he's not starting. Rozier and Turner's roles expanded. His stayed the same.

[Eja117]

What the heck was that? What the heck...was ...that? Jump over his own man? Almost break his wrist in the process? That was stupid. Physics much?

[jpotter33]

What the heck was that? What the heck...was ...that? Jump over his own man? Almost break his wrist in the process? That was stupid. Physics much?

Again, confirmation bias. Horford pushes Sully under Smart when he goes up for the layup, but it's Smart's fault?

[Csfan1984]

I think it's pretty telling that Avery is hurt, but Marcus' minutes aren't going up and he's not starting. Rozier and Turner's roles expanded. His stayed the same.

That is because Smart's role/strength is defense and what the team is missing with AB out and Crowder struggling is offense. It's not totally a Smart issue. If Crowder was playing well on offense we would see much more minutes for Smart.