Olynyk didn't practice today, guess it's time to free Mickey

[CoachBo]

I would counter that until we reduce the 3s and start attacking the rim regularly - as Smart did some in the second half Saturday night - we have no chance of beating the Hawks.

And we have none if Stevens goes brain-dead and runs Mickey out there to shoot threes.

But on a day when Ben Simmons has laughably been compared favorably to Oscar Robertson and Magic on this board, I guess nothing should surprise me.

[kraidstar]

agree with OP. rather go down swinging with mickey than with a stiff like zeller. for that matter i'd rather have isaiah thomas play center than zeller at this point, zeller is a waste of talent, he plays with zero heart.

[nickagneta]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

[alldaboston]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

[saltlover]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Mickey is probably closer to second or third worst.  Holland has never played a second in the NBA, and Young is useless.  I don't think Mickey should be counted on by C's fans, but if Olynyk is out in addition to Bradley, Mickey might be another injury away from seeing some kind of playing time.

It's unfortunate -- we've been pretty healthy all year.  To have multiple injuries only one game into the playoffs just feels unfair.

[nickagneta]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

Not sure there is anything wrong with that question. We are in a do or die playoff situation, not the middle of a long regular season. You don't experiment with end of the bench rookies with no experience in the playoffs. We need to win, not develop a kid.

People should know this, hence the question

[alldaboston]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

Not sure there is anything wrong with that question. We are in a do or die playoff situation, not the middle of a long regular season. You don't experiment with end of the bench rookies with no experience in the playoffs. We need to win, not develop a kid.

People should know this, hence the question

True, people should know it.

Idk, maybe I'm the only one who finds a problem with someone seemingly questioning my mental status/capabilities online.

Or maybe I'm just too sensitive.

[nickagneta]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

Not sure there is anything wrong with that question. We are in a do or die playoff situation, not the middle of a long regular season. You don't experiment with end of the bench rookies with no experience in the playoffs. We need to win, not develop a kid.

People should know this, hence the question

True, people should know it.

Idk, maybe I'm the only one who finds a problem with someone seemingly questioning my mental status/capabilities online.

Not questioning mental status or capabilities, just situational awareness and common sense.

[alldaboston]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

Not sure there is anything wrong with that question. We are in a do or die playoff situation, not the middle of a long regular season. You don't experiment with end of the bench rookies with no experience in the playoffs. We need to win, not develop a kid.

People should know this, hence the question

True, people should know it.

Idk, maybe I'm the only one who finds a problem with someone seemingly questioning my mental status/capabilities online.

Not questioning mental status or capabilities, just situational awareness and common sense.

Fair enough.

[nickagneta]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Mickey is probably closer to second or third worst.  Holland has never played a second in the NBA, and Young is useless.  I don't think Mickey should be counted on by C's fans, but if Olynyk is out in addition to Bradley, Mickey might be another injury away from seeing some kind of playing time.

It's unfortunate -- we've been pretty healthy all year.  To have multiple injuries only one game into the playoffs just feels unfair.

I don't count Holland. Everyone knows he isn't playing ever. And I think Mickey and Young are equally useless this year, though I think Mickey has potential to actually be a player for this team in the future.

Stevens made his decision on who is next off the bench for the C's in case of injury all during the regular season. It's Zeller, not Mickey. That's pretty obvious

[crimson_stallion]

I just mentioned in the other olynyk/mickey thread that I'm not as worried about potential mickey/horford matchups as I was. Horford looks like he is slow out there, and his biggest advantage was speed. Should mickey start? Definitely not, but I'm not worried about horford abusing mickey in spot minutes anymore.

Mickey is pretty athletic - I wouldn't have thought speed would have ever been a big advantage for Horford.

Strength and height maybe, footwork, basketball IQ.  But speed?  Even when Horford was in his prime, I'm not sure he was ever much (if any) more mobile then Mickey is.

[Dino Pitino]

We are in big trouble if Mickey plays.

You need your best players in the playoffs. Players tend to tighten up and it comes down to which team can execute and shoot better. Putting Mickey out there would be like throwing in the white towel. He would completely disrupt the offense and our offensive execution would suffer.

We're in worse trouble if Zeller plays. Mickey can hit threes better than Zeller. Mickey can dunk better than Zeller. He would not completely disrupt the offense. He might even make it better than it would be with Zeller. Would definitely be better defensively. Sit Zeller. Free Mickey.

You want Mickey shooting threes in a playoff game?

Zeller knows the plays better. He would keep the offense moving.

I really don't want to see either play but it's an easy decision if it's Zeller or Mickey. You go Zeller. Every possession matters so Mickey blowing up 3-4 offensive sets in a 4 minute span would crush us.

Well, Mickey won't be shooting threes for us.

And yeah, I'd rather give our main guys more minutes than risk bringing in younger guys/Zeller.

lol I hope he won't be either but the poster made an argument that Mickey shoots threes better as a reason he should play over Zeller.

Do I expect Stevens to draw up plays to get Mickey threes? No. But it's true that if Mickey sets up outside, that'd either pull his defender out or it'd leave him wide open for a shot he can maybe actually hit, right? It's a possible factor.

Zeller can know the plays better until the cows come home...he still sucks. I'd rather see a wild card with talent who might screw up a little but more than make up for it with raw ability than a worthless stiff. I'd rather gamble that the offense can work around Mickey setting a screen in the wrong spot while he blocks shots and grabs rebounds on the other end, than play it safe with Zeller who might be able to stand still in the right place better but will be a guaranteed liability otherwise.

[Smart457]

We are in big trouble if Mickey plays.

You need your best players in the playoffs. Players tend to tighten up and it comes down to which team can execute and shoot better. Putting Mickey out there would be like throwing in the white towel. He would completely disrupt the offense and our offensive execution would suffer.

We're in worse trouble if Zeller plays. Mickey can hit threes better than Zeller. Mickey can dunk better than Zeller. He would not completely disrupt the offense. He might even make it better than it would be with Zeller. Would definitely be better defensively. Sit Zeller. Free Mickey.

You want Mickey shooting threes in a playoff game?

Zeller knows the plays better. He would keep the offense moving.

I really don't want to see either play but it's an easy decision if it's Zeller or Mickey. You go Zeller. Every possession matters so Mickey blowing up 3-4 offensive sets in a 4 minute span would crush us.

Well, Mickey won't be shooting threes for us.

And yeah, I'd rather give our main guys more minutes than risk bringing in younger guys/Zeller.

lol I hope he won't be either but the poster made an argument that Mickey shoots threes better as a reason he should play over Zeller.

Do I expect Stevens to draw up plays to get Mickey threes? No. But it's true that if Mickey sets up outside, that'd either pull his defender out or it'd leave him wide open for a shot he can maybe actually hit, right? It's a possible factor.

Zeller can know the plays better until the cows come home...he still sucks. I'd rather see a wild card with talent who might screw up a little but more than make up for it with raw ability than a worthless stiff. I'd rather gamble that the offense can work around Mickey setting a screen in the wrong spot while he blocks shots and grabs rebounds on the other end, than play it safe with Zeller who might be able to stand still in the right place better but will be a guaranteed liability otherwise.

thats a typical fan response and that's ok cause there is plenty of short highlights that make Mickey look good so I understand your wanting to see more of Mickey. The problem is the other players on the court are going to prefer playing with Zeller. As much as he sucks there is a trust built there. The guy knows the plays and the offense again won't miss a beat with Zeller in.

If Mickey actually shoots a three and misses he will never play another minute in the playoffs. There is no way Mickey gets minutes over Zeller to shoot a three. Even a broken play three. I think we should retire that thought.

[Smart457]

What is the matter with you people. Do you really think that with all the chances that the worst current player on this roster(Mickey) had with being able to get minutes when Crowder and a Olynyk were out together and didn't get any that suddenly Stevens is going to give him minutes in the playoffs?

Mickey is raw. Mickey has potential. Mickey will get his chance...next year. He will not be getting any time in these playoffs. He just isn't ready. He wasn't ready all year for the regular season. He hasn't suddenly gotten ready overnight and now is ready to play winning playoff basketball.

Please for the sake of all that is good and green on this earth, stop with the free Mickey stuff. It's not happening nor should it happen.

Valid post. But no need for that.

Not sure there is anything wrong with that question. We are in a do or die playoff situation, not the middle of a long regular season. You don't experiment with end of the bench rookies with no experience in the playoffs. We need to win, not develop a kid.

People should know this, hence the question

True, people should know it.

Idk, maybe I'm the only one who finds a problem with someone seemingly questioning my mental status/capabilities online.

Or maybe I'm just too sensitive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nV7u1VBhWCE

Tried to embed that video with bbcode and did not work. Are we able to on here?

[Hemingway]

If you think playing Mickey right now is a good idea, you just don't get NBA basketball. I'm not down on him. He is a rookie. But he showed us nothing all year. And Stevens and co see everything we don't. We have a glut of guards and yet Hunter and Rozier were given minutes and Mickey basically wasn't. Why try him out now? Thats like letting the head trainer coach game 2 for us. Maybe he would do a good job. Maybe he would but Brad coached us all the way up to this point wouldn't it be kind of **** move to do that to him now? I'm not a huge Zeller fan. Short minutes when we need size and Amir and Sully need rest. The best option is to see how much we can get away with Crowder and JJ at the 4 to make up for any possible loss of KO.