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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2016, 11:05:28 AM »

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Guess they'll have to play Jordan Mickey now...
not sure how mickey would provide 3 point shooting and perimeter defense to replace that lost by bradley.  :o
At this point we've seen Rozier getting his chance, we need to admit that there is probably a reason Mickey is not playing ... Coach don't see him as ready to contribute . That simple.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2016, 11:05:35 AM »

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honestly would not be surprised if we don't win a playoff game as currently constituted. and Stevens and Ainge will both be accountable.

Stevens for encouraging this team to settle for jumpers and Ainge for not providing actual shooters. although something tells me Ainge probably didn't expect this many jump shots being taken.

as for losing Bradley, we didn't have much of a chance with him so I don't expect much of a difference without him. however this team has a propensity for playing inspired ball when the time calls for it. so I could see 'em pulling one out - Atl in 4 or 5.

How do you come to this conclusion after we lost by only 1 point on the road after shooting uncharacteristically poor percentage, getting no foul calls, and losing one of our key players down the stretch?

It's actually funny because I was watching the game with my brother, and when we were down by around 15 at half time I said to him - "for some reason, I get the feeling we are going to come back and win this game". 

The main reason I felt that way is essentially what you just said.  We played some of the worst basketball I've ever seen in the first half.  It was on par with how we started the Charlotte and Miami games - and yet when we got to half time in those games, we were down by 25-30.  In this game we were playing that badly, getting no calls, and were still down "only" down by 15 or so.

I figured there is no way we could continue shooting that poorly, and it's unlikely Atlanta would keep shooting that well, so something had to give.  I suspected we would make a run and end up right back in the game.

That's pretty much exactly what happened.  Bradley put us on his shoulders, Amir had some huge plays (big defensive stops and big offensive rebounds), Thomas started to heat up, and we were up.  We were in control of the game, then Bradley went down...and we started to lose control of it. 

With Bradley, I strongly believe we'd have won that game.  Without him, we lost by only one.

This Hawks team is no better then we are.  They finished the season with the exact same record as us, and they beat us in the regular season 3-1, which is is nowhere near as big a swing as it sounds (one of those games went the other way, it'd be 2-2).  We have similar levels of talent overall, and we have the best player in the series (IT4). 

Before Bradley went down, we had every bit as much chance of winning the series as they did.  Now...it will be hard.  But not impossible.  It just means our guys need to play every remaining game the way playoff basketball is meant to be played - with 110% effort.  With Bradley out, this team cannot afford to fall into 15 point holes, because we no longer have the firepower to dig ourselves out.  We need to fight every minute on the court.

I'm hoping that the loss of Bradley will inspire the other guys on the team to step up for him.  Bradley played his heart out all night tonight in order to keep us in the game and give us a fighting chance, so I hope the guys recognise that and fight their butts off in order to prove that his effort and his sacrifice weren't for nothing.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2016, 11:10:38 AM »

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Guess they'll have to play Jordan Mickey now...
not sure how mickey would provide 3 point shooting and perimeter defence to replace that lost by bradley.  :o
At this point we've seen Rozier getting his chance, we need to admit that there is probably a reason Mickey is not playing ... Coach don't see him as ready to contribute . That simple.

At the end of the day, I think it is more due to frontcourt depth to be honest.

Rozier got his chance because once Crowder got hurt we had to start Turner at SF, which meant we were only 3 men deep at the guard spots (Thomas, Bradley, Smart).  That opened up playing time for Rozier.

In the front court we have Sully, Amir, Olynyk, Jerebko and Zeller.  Even if one of those guys gets hurt (knock on wood), we still have four guys - and Zeller would get the minutes most likely, due to seniority and experience.  If two of those guys can't play for whatever reason, then Mickey is likely the next man up.

I'm sure Stevens probably is a little unsure of whether he's ready, but I think the bigger reason for him not playing is simply the mass of depth at those positions.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2016, 11:16:02 AM »

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Turner probably starts, although I wouldn't be surprised is Stevens started the game small and started building Thomas, Smart, Turner, Crowder and Amir.

if he goes small I think we will see Rozier and/or Hunter get some time. If Kelly plays aggressive I think he could buy us some time with two big lineups but in general I expect us to go small a lot which means even more minutes from Smart, Turner and It.

We need Smart and Jerebko to really step up. I also think Turner will start, but Smart and Jerebko will be the guys who get more playing time due to AB's absence. Smart played very well in game 1. Jerebko however couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with wide open looks.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2016, 11:25:54 AM »

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This just shows that we need a Kyle Korver type.

Someone who the defense fears, even when they are not shooting well on a given night.  Watching the Hawks, this guy kills our ability to play passing lanes in the half court.

Bradley unfortunately is the guy on the Celtics that comes closest to approximating this role.  We don't have anyone else who can reliable hit threes at the off-guard position.  Atlanta is just going to keep on packing the paint.

More than anyone, Olynyk needs to step up and have a big series, operating on the perimeter.  We have to get their bigs out of the paint.  Evan Turner needs space, and we're going to have to rely on him a bunch now.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2016, 11:46:42 AM »

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I think this is an opportunity for Jonas Jerebko to maka a splash.
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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2016, 12:02:04 PM »

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Without AB we get swept.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2016, 12:32:42 PM »

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Ah, I wouldn't go that far. Teague lit Bradley up for much of the night.

The posters here who want to demolish the team to get Marcus Smart - who had a very good game last night - on the floor are going to have their "put up or shut up" moment because he's going to get a bunch of minutes.

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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2016, 12:35:37 PM »

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honestly would not be surprised if we don't win a playoff game as currently constituted. and Stevens and Ainge will both be accountable.

Stevens for encouraging this team to settle for jumpers and Ainge for not providing actual shooters. although something tells me Ainge probably didn't expect this many jump shots being taken.

as for losing Bradley, we didn't have much of a chance with him so I don't expect much of a difference without him. however this team has a propensity for playing inspired ball when the time calls for it. so I could see 'em pulling one out - Atl in 4 or 5.

How do you come to this conclusion after we lost by only 1 point on the road after shooting uncharacteristically poor percentage, getting no foul calls, and losing one of our key players down the stretch?

have you noticed we've been having really poor offensive games lately? have you noticed our poor defense lately? well it's not a trend or a bad stretch.

this is who we've been all season - if our shots don't fall we don't play D. i'd say there were maybe 4 games this yr. where we overcame that, 2 of 'em happened in the last couple weeks.

I didn't come to this conclusion after game 1, I came to this conclusion after seeing them play all season. I expected the poor shooting/horrible D, the playoffs expose weaknesses or strengths.


Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2016, 12:39:18 PM »

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honestly would not be surprised if we don't win a playoff game as currently constituted. and Stevens and Ainge will both be accountable.

Stevens for encouraging this team to settle for jumpers and Ainge for not providing actual shooters. although something tells me Ainge probably didn't expect this many jump shots being taken.

as for losing Bradley, we didn't have much of a chance with him so I don't expect much of a difference without him. however this team has a propensity for playing inspired ball when the time calls for it. so I could see 'em pulling one out - Atl in 4 or 5.

How do you come to this conclusion after we lost by only 1 point on the road after shooting uncharacteristically poor percentage, getting no foul calls, and losing one of our key players down the stretch?

have you noticed we've been having really poor offensive games lately? have you noticed our poor defense lately? well it's not a trend or a bad stretch.

this is who we've been all season - if our shots don't fall we don't play D. i'd say there were maybe 4 games this yr. where we overcame that, 2 of 'em happened in the last couple weeks.

I didn't come to this conclusion after game 1, I came to this conclusion after seeing them play all season. I expected the poor shooting/horrible D, the playoffs expose weaknesses or strengths.

It's an accurate conclusion. TP. This is a poor shooting team - reason enough to make this summer an urgent one for Ainge - that allows cold spells to render its defense inept. This team's best offense is defense off transition, and if we don't get it, the 3s start flying.
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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2016, 12:47:30 PM »

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honestly would not be surprised if we don't win a playoff game as currently constituted. and Stevens and Ainge will both be accountable.

Stevens for encouraging this team to settle for jumpers and Ainge for not providing actual shooters. although something tells me Ainge probably didn't expect this many jump shots being taken.

as for losing Bradley, we didn't have much of a chance with him so I don't expect much of a difference without him. however this team has a propensity for playing inspired ball when the time calls for it. so I could see 'em pulling one out - Atl in 4 or 5.

How do you come to this conclusion after we lost by only 1 point on the road after shooting uncharacteristically poor percentage, getting no foul calls, and losing one of our key players down the stretch?

have you noticed we've been having really poor offensive games lately? have you noticed our poor defense lately? well it's not a trend or a bad stretch.

this is who we've been all season - if our shots don't fall we don't play D. i'd say there were maybe 4 games this yr. where we overcame that, 2 of 'em happened in the last couple weeks.

I didn't come to this conclusion after game 1, I came to this conclusion after seeing them play all season. I expected the poor shooting/horrible D, the playoffs expose weaknesses or strengths.

After the first quarter, the Celtics had a very good defensive game, though, despite struggling offensively.  This kind of blows a hole in your theory that the team doesn't play d when the ball's not going in the basket.
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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2016, 12:48:51 PM »

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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2016, 12:52:14 PM »

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honestly would not be surprised if we don't win a playoff game as currently constituted. and Stevens and Ainge will both be accountable.

Stevens for encouraging this team to settle for jumpers and Ainge for not providing actual shooters. although something tells me Ainge probably didn't expect this many jump shots being taken.

as for losing Bradley, we didn't have much of a chance with him so I don't expect much of a difference without him. however this team has a propensity for playing inspired ball when the time calls for it. so I could see 'em pulling one out - Atl in 4 or 5.

How do you come to this conclusion after we lost by only 1 point on the road after shooting uncharacteristically poor percentage, getting no foul calls, and losing one of our key players down the stretch?

have you noticed we've been having really poor offensive games lately? have you noticed our poor defense lately? well it's not a trend or a bad stretch.

this is who we've been all season - if our shots don't fall we don't play D. i'd say there were maybe 4 games this yr. where we overcame that, 2 of 'em happened in the last couple weeks.

I didn't come to this conclusion after game 1, I came to this conclusion after seeing them play all season. I expected the poor shooting/horrible D, the playoffs expose weaknesses or strengths.

After the first quarter, the Celtics had a very good defensive game, though, despite struggling offensively.  This kind of blows a hole in your theory that the team doesn't play d when the ball's not going in the basket.

not really, this was the exception not the rule.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2016, 12:54:10 PM »

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The team goes from a 50 win caliber team to a team that struggles for .500.

The Celtics have struggled all season whenever one of Isaiah, Bradley or Smart are absent. Their replacements simply aren't good enough. Too young and inconsistent.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2016, 01:04:38 PM »

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