George Karl fired

[PhoSita]

I have a feeling Karl will want to get one more shot to pad his career win total and also try to go out on a better note than this.

[jambr380]

Bummer on the Cousins front, but at least we get to watch more drama from afar in SacTown. Coaches will be lining up for that job knowing they only have to coach one season to get paid for four.

[Snakehead]

Agreed with those saying Karl seems done.  That was too messy for him to get a big enough offer to coach again.  He wasn't even trying for a while and there was all sorts of open beef.

A good example is what happened with Seth Curry.  I'm not getting overhyped because he's a Curry, really, but he hardly got any minutes even with the struggles of the team and then finally near the end of the year when he did he produced really well for them.  Like Roy said, he wasn't even really making adjustments to the poor play.

[gift]

If Karl was younger and healthier I'd say we'd see him as a head coach again because that's the way the nba works. I don't get it, but it does.

But this is going to take a few years for anyone to even consider him again and he's already 65.

[Tr1boy]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/720681382561886209

Trading for Cousins just became less likely.

Unless the new coach doesn't think he can deal with the Boogie Man.

Tbh , cousins is a goner

Kings owner is tired of bs.

The highest bidder will get him once off season activity starts

We won't be a part of the bidding though.


I think Lakers will be in front of the line for some reason. If they miss out on a top 2  pick

To lakers: cousin, russell
To kings: clarkson, randle, #3-4

[Roy H.]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/720681382561886209

Trading for Cousins just became less likely.

Unless the new coach doesn't think he can deal with the Boogie Man.

Tbh , cousins is a goner

Kings owner is tired of bs.

The highest bidder will get him once off season activity starts

We won't be a part of the bidding though.


I think Lakers will be in front of the line for some reason. If they miss out on a top 2  pick

To lakers: cousin, russell
To kings: clarkson, randle, #3-4

The Lakers lose their pick if it's outside the top-3.

Who is the Russell going to the Lakers?

[moiso]

Never should have hired Karl in the first place.

Guard-friendly coach. Not a big man coach. Terrible choice for a team built around a center.

But he allowed Cousins to put up better numbers than any of his other coaches did.

[Snakehead]

Never should have hired Karl in the first place.

Guard-friendly coach. Not a big man coach. Terrible choice for a team built around a center.

But he allowed Cousins to put up better numbers than any of his other coaches did.

Or he's just getting better?  And the pace helps get stats up of course.  They played at a very fast pace.

I don't know if he is a guards over bigs kind of guy but a fast pace can limit that.  However Cousins is a guy that faces up and drives and that kind of thing so he isn't out of place in a fast paced system.

[Tr1boy]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/720681382561886209

Trading for Cousins just became less likely.

Unless the new coach doesn't think he can deal with the Boogie Man.

Tbh , cousins is a goner

Kings owner is tired of bs.

The highest bidder will get him once off season activity starts

We won't be a part of the bidding though.


I think Lakers will be in front of the line for some reason. If they miss out on a top 2  pick

To lakers: cousin, russell
To kings: clarkson, randle, #3-4

The Lakers lose their pick if it's outside the top-3.

Who is the Russell going to the Lakers?

Thx. Yeah oops, made an error

Lakers still go for Cousins using Ingram or Simmons?

What you think

[Roy H.]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/720681382561886209

Trading for Cousins just became less likely.

Unless the new coach doesn't think he can deal with the Boogie Man.

Tbh , cousins is a goner

Kings owner is tired of bs.

The highest bidder will get him once off season activity starts

We won't be a part of the bidding though.


I think Lakers will be in front of the line for some reason. If they miss out on a top 2  pick

To lakers: cousin, russell
To kings: clarkson, randle, #3-4

The Lakers lose their pick if it's outside the top-3.

Who is the Russell going to the Lakers?

Thx. Yeah oops, made an error

Lakers still go for Cousins using Ingram or Simmons?

What you think

With Kobe retiring, I think they'll focus on a youth rebuild, at least until they have some other win-now pieces. It doesn't make sense to add a volatile player if you're going to lose 50+ games.

Of course, if DMC lands them a big free agent, as well, then you give up the top-2 pick.

[LarBrd33]

Is this good or bad for the chances of trading for Cousins?  Think they'll finally move on?

[csfansince60s]

I am not a Cousins apologist, and for the record, I don't want him here.....however....

Karl alienated Cousins right away by letting it leak out that he wanted to trade him.....the stage was set right then for one of them to be gone...

It was a win-win for Karl. If he got his way, he gets the 2013 Nuggets that he wanted (Lawson, Faried and Chandler) and control of the team.

If he didn't get his way (which he didn't), I'm sure that he knew that the tension would be so bad that the Kings would have to let him go (and have to pay him) or Cousins go. Well played, Karl.

Karl is a piece of garbage as far as I am concerned.

The Kings made a choice: Cousins>>>>>>he is going nowhere....and I'm glad.

[Snakehead]

Is this good or bad for the chances of trading for Cousins?  Think they'll finally move on?

It's more of a mess to a messy situation?  Hard to say.

I'm interested in the arena aspect of it.  It's a time where you think they could make a clean break (and get a top young pick from us) in a Cousins trade.  But they could also be afraid to get rid of by far their best player going to a new arena too.  I hope they move on, for Cousins sake, and I have to imagine Cousins can't be happy and may seriously ask to be traded.  Interesting seeing him left off so many awards for example at the end of the year here.  Can't leave him happy and I have to think he sees he could do better elsewhere.

[LarBrd33]

Is this good or bad for the chances of trading for Cousins?  Think they'll finally move on?

It's more of a mess to a messy situation?  Hard to say.

I'm interested in the arena aspect of it.  It's a time where you think they could make a clean break (and get a top young pick from us) in a Cousins trade.  But they could also be afraid to get rid of by far their best player going to a new arena too.  I hope they move on, for Cousins sake, and I have to imagine Cousins can't be happy and may seriously ask to be traded.  Interesting seeing him left off so many awards for example at the end of the year here.  Can't leave him happy and I have to think he sees he could do better elsewhere.

Yeah I mean this isn't the first time they have replaced a coach that Cousins didn't get along with.  You'd think they'd both want a divorce from each other.   BUt on the other hand they might suggest that a new coach and a new arena is enough of a "fresh start".

[bdm860]

Is this good or bad for the chances of trading for Cousins?  Think they'll finally move on?

It's more of a mess to a messy situation?  Hard to say.

I'm interested in the arena aspect of it.  It's a time where you think they could make a clean break (and get a top young pick from us) in a Cousins trade.  But they could also be afraid to get rid of by far their best player going to a new arena too.  I hope they move on, for Cousins sake, and I have to imagine Cousins can't be happy and may seriously ask to be traded.  Interesting seeing him left off so many awards for example at the end of the year here.  Can't leave him happy and I have to think he sees he could do better elsewhere.

This summer has to be the time to trade him, as he'll still have 2 full years on his contract.  I feel like that's the breaking point where you can still reap maximum value in a trade.  Once that contract get's under 2 years, that's when it starts to become more of a rental situation and teams not wanting to give up so many assets for a guy who might walk soon.

If they trade him at the draft, they'll have the full ability to pick their own players, and make the proper coaching, free agent, and trade decisions.

Plus I feel like there's just generally a better market around the draft, as other teams get the full offseason to build out the rest of their team, full training camp, and are generally more optimistic about their chances for the next season, etc.

But this is Sacramento, they don't make rationale decisions.  They'll hold on to Cousins thinking year 11 in their rebuild process is finally the year they turn it around!  They then whiff on free agents (especially with everybody having money this year), make some weird trades, maybe even dish out for a big name coach (Calipari?), all to be 10 games under .500 at the All-Star break.  Now they'll finally decide to trade Cousins at the deadline only to be met with offers they deem to low, so they'll wait until the offseason, but now the offers get even worse because it's really only a year rental now.  Then Vlade finally reluctantly trades Cousins to Danny for James Young and some 2nd rounders because nobody's offering any decent value.  I guess I actually like this scenario.