Deyonta Davis as the 3rd Overall Pick

[alewilliam789]

I've been looking over our options at the 3rd overall pick and haven't truly been blown away with the prospects that will be available. After looking over which player would be available with this pick I started to look at one of my very own Spartans as a viable candidate as a legitimate fit for our basketball team.
Here are the basic measurables:
PF/C
6'10"
7'1" wingspan

Why you ask?? Because Davis is just the best fit for our basketball team at the 3rd overall pick as both a player that fills needs of shot blocking and rebounding, but also combines this with an interesting, but raw, post game and nice looking mid range stroke. His upside also fits with the draft slot that he's being considered.
When you look at his stats, the most impressive figure is his 1.8 blocks per game and almost 60% from the field. Overall his stats aren't fantastic, but it's when we look at his Per 40 and advanced stats we see the real enticing qualities of Davis. After watching him I was reminded of a certain player that's taking over the game right now in Utah. While not exact by any means because Favors was just a more refined player in college, their games share many similarities. For one, Deyonta Davis and Derrick Favors share very similar physical profiles as freshmen. Both measured out at about 6'10" even with Favors being more physically imposing at 245, instead of the lighter 230 that Michigan State list Davis at. Davis had 2 inches less on his wingspan. Besides physical differences, their per 40 and advanced stats are almost exactly the same despite a few deviations. For example, both averaged about 16-18 PPG per 40, 11 RPG, about 1 APG, 3 BPG, about 60% FG%, same FT% at about 60%, and almost all the their BLK%, RB%, AST%, and PER are about the same. The upside with Deyonte Davis is that he is a considerably better shot blocker than Derrick Favors considering he had a 10.2% compared to Favors 7.9%. Favors had more win shares, but it's also because he had a much larger role on his team and he also had a higher USG% as well.


By no means am I saying that he is on the same level as Favors, but they host similar games and, like Favors, he has a tremendous ceiling that can easily be achieved if he lands in a stable system like our own. He also addresses many issues that we have in the front court. Considering Derrick Favors was exactly the 3rd overall pick in the 2010 draft, why wouldn't at least consider Davis at this position? Why wouldn't we consider Davis if you guys are willing to consider Bender as a top 3 pick even though he hasn't shown anything and is a terrible defender compared to a player like Davis who we have more tape on and is a much better all around player?

[Moranis]

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[konkmv]

No?

[saltlover]

Um no way?

[alldaboston]

...bruh...is this a joke?

[Evantime34]

I love Davis... with the Dallas pick.

I'm hoping to get a long and/or athletic big with the Mavs pick hopefully one out of Davis, Chriss, Rabb, or Skal. We might need to trade up to get one of that group but who knows.

[alewilliam789]

Just wait. Every year the long, athletic, young big men with good advanced stats usually ends up flying up boards into the top 5 at least. I'm not really sure why I posted this here. Most of your opinions are just shaped off the mock drafts put out by Chad Ford and NBADraft.net who's boards change dramatically after the combine and workouts. The only reason a player like Dragan Bender is even on your guys radar is because of this.You guys aren't analyzing the players statistical and physical profile, but the players average position on all the mock drafts and forming an opinion off that. You people all answered no to my proposition, but gave me no actual reason based on stats and the players being considered at the draft position to why that is.

Myles Turner is a great example of this. A physical specimen as far as length and height with pretty good advanced and per 40 stats. Most of you would argue after the draft that Myles Turner was worth a top 4-5 pick in last draft and would undoubtedly be a top 3-4 pick in this draft if he had stayed based on hindsight. Last year there was a similar response to Turner as a major potential bust.

[saltlover]

Just wait. Every year the long, athletic, young big men with good advanced stats usually ends up flying up boards into the top 5 at least. I'm not really sure why I posted this here. Most of your opinions are just shaped off the mock drafts put out by Chad Ford and NBADraft.net who's boards change dramatically after the combine and workouts. The only reason a player like Dragan Bender is even on your guys radar is because of this.You guys aren't analyzing the players statistical and physical profile, but the players average position on all the mock drafts and forming an opinion off that. You people all answered no to my proposition, but gave me no actual reason based on stats and the players being considered at the draft position to why that is.

I watch Big 10 basketball nearly as much as I watch the NBA..  He is not a top 3 pick, period.

[max215]

Uhhhh, no thanks.

[Tr1boy]

No way

I rather take Sabonis 3rd

[DefenseWinsChamps]

It's outside the box, that's for sure. He might end up being the top pick next year, depending on if Izzo unleashes him or not. That kind of athleticism and talent may be worth taking a risk on. If I were Ainge, I'd have to be convinced:

1. Izzo would have to convince me that the kid is a workhorse.
2. Development coaches would have to convince me that he has the raw ability to be a star, instead of turning into another Tristan Thompson.
3. His measurements would have to come back favorably. If he is 6'7'' without shoes, 6'9'' with two inch shoes, then I don't want him. We already have Mickey. If he is a true 6'8.5'' to 6'9'' without shoes, and 6'10''-6'10.5'' with shoes then I'm more interested. Especially if they can measure his growth plates and see he is not done growing.

I agree that if Davis stays in this draft, he will drift upward. Remember Vonleh? WCS? Steven Adams? Thompson? Vesley? Udoh? Big men with athleticism do rise. Good thought. Outside the box. I like it. Not sure I agree, but good idea.

[saltlover]

It's outside the box, that's for sure. He might end up being the top pick next year, depending on if Izzo unleashes him or not. That kind of athleticism and talent may be worth taking a risk on. If I were Ainge, I'd have to be convinced:

1. Izzo would have to convince me that the kid is a workhorse.
2. Development coaches would have to convince me that he has the raw ability to be a star, instead of turning into another Tristan Thompson.
3. His measurements would have to come back favorably. If he is 6'7'' without shoes, 6'9'' with two inch shoes, then I don't want him. We already have Mickey. If he is a true 6'8.5'' to 6'9'' without shoes, and 6'10''-6'10.5'' with shoes then I'm more interested. Especially if they can measure his growth plates and see he is not done growing.

I agree that if Davis stays in this draft, he will drift upward. Remember Vonleh? WCS? Steven Adams? Thompson? Vesley? Udoh? Big men with athleticism do rise. Good thought. Outside the box. I like it. Not sure I agree, but good idea.

Davis signed with an agent.  He's not returning to school.

[Ilikesports17]

I understand the logic.

After the top 2 no one really stand out.

I've got know idea what to make of Bender. Brown seems to have some flaws. I think Hield will be really good, but it's hard to judge a Senior. I mean he could feasibly just be Acie Law.

I like Murray a lot, but he's a Gaurd and then Dunn is a guard who's not a great shooter who is old.

Basically there's no clear cut difference between 3 and 7.

I'm not gonna pretend I don't base my ranking on mock drafts. Let's also not pretend that that's an unfair thing to do.

Derrick Favors took to the end of his rookie contract to be a good player and he came into the league more polished and was on a team where he has a greater opportunity to flourish.

Davis has very little production.

I had viewed him in a group of high ceiling guys we could hopefully grab in the back end of the lotto or even later

Davis
Rabb
Lab
Maker.

you can't deny that Davis is raw. Really raw. Taking a guy that raw with the third overall pick is risky business especially with those 5 good options right there for the taking.

Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

Point is right now no mocks have him going higher than like 13 so taking him at 3 is dumb. We could probably just trade back.

[BitterJim]

I've been looking over our options at the 3rd overall pick and haven't truly been blown away with the prospects that will be available. After looking over which player would be available with this pick I started to look at one of my very own Spartans as a viable candidate as a legitimate fit for our basketball team.
Here are the basic measurables:
PF/C
6'10"
7'1" wingspan

Why you ask?? Because Davis is just the best fit for our basketball team at the 3rd overall pick as both a player that fills needs of shot blocking and rebounding, but also combines this with an interesting, but raw, post game and nice looking mid range stroke. His upside also fits with the draft slot that he's being considered.
When you look at his stats, the most impressive figure is his 1.8 blocks per game and almost 60% from the field. Overall his stats aren't fantastic, but it's when we look at his Per 40 and advanced stats we see the real enticing qualities of Davis. After watching him I was reminded of a certain player that's taking over the game right now in Utah. While not exact by any means because Favors was just a more refined player in college, their games share many similarities. For one, Deyonta Davis and Derrick Favors share very similar physical profiles as freshmen. Both measured out at about 6'10" even with Favors being more physically imposing at 245, instead of the lighter 230 that Michigan State list Davis at. Davis had 2 inches less on his wingspan. Besides physical differences, their per 40 and advanced stats are almost exactly the same despite a few deviations. For example, both averaged about 16-18 PPG per 40, 11 RPG, about 1 APG, 3 BPG, about 60% FG%, same FT% at about 60%, and almost all the their BLK%, RB%, AST%, and PER are about the same. The upside with Deyonte Davis is that he is a considerably better shot blocker than Derrick Favors considering he had a 10.2% compared to Favors 7.9%. Favors had more win shares, but it's also because he had a much larger role on his team and he also had a higher USG% as well.


By no means am I saying that he is on the same level as Favors, but they host similar games and, like Favors, he has a tremendous ceiling that can easily be achieved if he lands in a stable system like our own. He also addresses many issues that we have in the front court. Considering Derrick Favors was exactly the 3rd overall pick in the 2010 draft, why wouldn't at least consider Davis at this position? Why wouldn't we consider Davis if you guys are willing to consider Bender as a top 3 pick even though he hasn't shown anything and is a terrible defender compared to a player like Davis who we have more tape on and is a much better all around player?

He may be the best fit (although I doubt it), but you don't draft for fit at #2 overall.  Best player available is the only way to go with a pick that high

[alldaboston]

...bruh...is this a joke?

I should probably amend this. Davis is a nice prospect. But I don't think he's worthy of using the third pick on him. He's a fine prospect, and I'd trade our pick and Dallas pick to move up and get him if possible, but as the third pick? Sorry bud. That's a reach