nets 2017 pick might be even better

[rollie mass]

with philly wanting to win and kobe gone
if the nets trade lopezand young -depends who they trade with
if they keep lopez and he gets hurt
philly will start to win so will LA
man,i'm greedy--but just a thought
they could be in the cellar for years

[Denis998]

I hope so too, whats more is, it looks like the 2017 draft is shaping up into a big one.

[PhoSita]

Yeah, I'm really hoping the new GM dumps Lopez and Young for whatever young players / picks he can get and embraces being bad for a few years.

But then again, maybe he looks at what happened to Hinkie and thinks man, I better turn this around ASAP.

If you were working for Prokhorov, would you feel comfortable that you would keep your job if the team won 15-25 games each of the next 2-3 years?

[Granath]

Rollie, I've been saying that for months.

Yes, there is a good possibility that the Nets keep their guys, find a couple of mid-tier FAs and improve their team. However, I've been arguing that is counter-productive in the long term because while they might get to mid-30s wins, they're waiting the prime year value of their two best assets. Since those assets are not in the long-term plans for the Nets - they'd be too old by the time the Nets can right this ship - they're better off disposing of those assets at peak (which is now) and collecting future assets.

So could the pick next year be 10 or 12 or 14th...but long term that's not going to help the Nets as much as is they divest themselves of these guys during the offseason, take the picks and start rebuilding now.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Yeah, I'm really hoping the new GM dumps Lopez and Young for whatever young players / picks he can get and embraces being bad for a few years.

But then again, maybe he looks at what happened to Hinkie and thinks man, I better turn this around ASAP.

If you were working for Prokhorov, would you feel comfortable that you would keep your job if the team won 15-25 games each of the next 2-3 years?

With the cap going up they will over pay and sign if they do not get a trade for lopez and young. Would Danny Dare sale them a second round pick?

[PhoSita]

Yes, there is a good possibility that the Nets keep their guys, find a couple of mid-tier FAs and improve their team. However, I've been arguing that is counter-productive in the long term because while they might get to mid-30s wins, they're waiting the prime year value of their two best assets. Since those assets are not in the long-term plans for the Nets - they'd be too old by the time the Nets can right this ship - they're better off disposing of those assets at peak (which is now) and collecting future assets.

The question is whether the Nets are willing to think long term enough to recognize this fact and pursue the strategy you describe.

I get the sense they're more inclined to make a bunch of low floor high ceiling free agent signings and hope it all comes together for another playoff berth or two until they get control of their own picks back.

[Ed Hollison]

Yes, there is a good possibility that the Nets keep their guys, find a couple of mid-tier FAs and improve their team.

This is a possibility. But is it realistic? A couple of mid-tier FAs won't put them in the playoffs. In other words, even in that scenario you're still getting a late lottery pick at worst.

Could the Nets get a TOP-tier FA? Possible, but highly unlikely. Which top guy wants to sign long term with a team with no draft picks, no stable coach/GM combo in place, and an owner who may or may not be looking to bail? Even in Brooklyn, that's not attractive enough to reel in a big fish.

In other words: Things are looking up.

[celticsclay]

Yes, there is a good possibility that the Nets keep their guys, find a couple of mid-tier FAs and improve their team. However, I've been arguing that is counter-productive in the long term because while they might get to mid-30s wins, they're waiting the prime year value of their two best assets. Since those assets are not in the long-term plans for the Nets - they'd be too old by the time the Nets can right this ship - they're better off disposing of those assets at peak (which is now) and collecting future assets.

The question is whether the Nets are willing to think long term enough to recognize this fact and pursue the strategy you describe.

I get the sense they're more inclined to make a bunch of low floor high ceiling free agent signings and hope it all comes together for another playoff berth or two until they get control of their own picks back.

Pho I had that sense before the recent departures of King and their coach. You would have to agree that sitting out Lopez and Thad for the last 7 games is a very proactive long strategy angle (especially when it doesn't help their draft stock at all). Perhaps this is the first step towards some longer view team strategies like taking more flyers on guys like Robinson. I could see Stauskas and McLemore both being cut or moved this offseason. Signing a few players like them and seeing if they can ever realize the potential that made them lottery picks seems more plausible to me than them signing established vets like Deng, Derozen, Ryan Anderson, Rondo etc. Now someone I would not want them to get that is kind of in the middle is Sullinger. That being said who do you see on this list that could possibly sign with them?

http://hoopshype.com/2016/03/05/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/

[rollie mass]

they are trading from in a hole,they may have trouble getting full value
look what danny did last year but he has the organization and brad
any other coach would have been overwhelmed-to have such a young, rudderless  team without rondo,then green
 a rookie and sophomore,some turn around projects turner and tyler
 then isaiah and jerebko
we got an all star, a most improved player,a sixth man and coach of year -nobody but nobody could have done what brad has-and a defence to die for

[PhoSita]

Pho I had that sense before the recent departures of King and their coach. You would have to agree that sitting out Lopez and Thad for the last 7 games is a very proactive long strategy angle (especially when it doesn't help their draft stock at all).

It could also signal that they recognize the year is over and want to save those guys for a run next season.  Who knows.

Signing a few players like them and seeing if they can ever realize the potential that made them lottery picks seems more plausible to me than them signing established vets like Deng, Derozen, Ryan Anderson, Rondo etc. Now someone I would not want them to get that is kind of in the middle is Sullinger. That being said who do you see on this list that could possibly sign with them?

Rondo, Jennings, Eric Gordon, Jeff Green, Luol Deng, Nene, O.J. Mayo, Gerald Henderson, C. Lee, Waiters, Bayless, M. Barnes, etc.

They can't offer a winning situation but they can offer money, minutes, and a substantial offensive role.


Of course if their starting lineup next year is Jennings, Henderson, J. Green, Young, and Lopez, they'll still be pretty awful.

[loco_91]

It's definitely possible. I think the Nets GM said something about wanting to keep Lopez as a building block, but of course GM's say a lot of things, and he didn't say the same about Thad.

I suspect that both guys have some trade value this summer with the expanding cap and lack of supply in the FA market. Wouldn't be surprised to see them gone in exchange for a couple much-needed first round picks.