Would the Raptors give up the Knicks pick for Olynyk?

[slightly biased bias fan]

In my opinion Olynyk fits Raptors perfectly, he is the right age, is a massive upgrade over Scola, fits the win now mentality and would be a big marketing coup as I'm sure locals would love a top Canadian playing for their team.

The question is would Danny want this deal and do we need to give up more than just Olynyk to get it done?

[footey]

If he continues to score only 6 points two out of everything games, I personally will pack his bags if they do that trade. I like Kelly, but just feel he lacks the heart of a champ.  We need mentally tougher players.

[slamtheking]

what would be the point of acquiring a 9th pick in this draft?

[slightly biased bias fan]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

[Bucketgetter]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

[knuckleballer]

I think Toronto might, but I don't think there's a chance Danny would.  Olynyk is a good player and we already have a ton a draft picks.  We need to get better, not younger.

[slightly biased bias fan]

what would be the point of acquiring a 9th pick in this draft?

Another asset to package for a rebuilding team e.g. Bulls, Kings or if Ainge wants another lottery talent to stash like Bender if he falls.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

Carroll is 6'8 defensive animal, he is a modern 4 the only reason to start two bigs is if they face the Grizzlies or Cavs

[chambers]

The Raptors would, but Ainge wouldn't.
Olynyk is incredibly valuable off the bench.
He's arguably more valuable to a rebuilding team than the 9th pick in today's NBA.

But yeah he would be a great fit over Scola.

[Bucketgetter]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

Carroll is 6'8 defensive animal, he is a modern 4 the only reason to start two bigs is if they face the Grizzlies or Cavs

Then Olynyk would be pointless because JV is better than him and they might as well just use their #9 pick.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

Carroll is 6'8 defensive animal, he is a modern 4 the only reason to start two bigs is if they face the Grizzlies or Cavs

Then Olynyk would be pointless because JV is better than him and they might as well just use their #9 pick.

JV can't pass, nor shoot 3's and Olynyk can run the floor better and passes like a PG.

[Bucketgetter]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

Carroll is 6'8 defensive animal, he is a modern 4 the only reason to start two bigs is if they face the Grizzlies or Cavs

Then Olynyk would be pointless because JV is better than him and they might as well just use their #9 pick.

JV can't pass, nor shoot 3's and Olynyk can run the floor better and passes like a PG.

And JV is also much better inside and a better rebounder. 2 things you want your center to excel at. There's a reason why JV is starting for the #2 seed and KO is coming off the bench for the #4 seed.

[Kane3387]

Doubt it

[slamtheking]

what would be the point of acquiring a 9th pick in this draft?

Another asset to package for a rebuilding team e.g. Bulls, Kings or if Ainge wants another lottery talent to stash like Bender if he falls.

KO is likely a better asset than another late lottery pick in a weak draft if you're proposing to use it in a trade.  The last thing we need is have to spend yet another pick on a draft and stash player.

no issue with trading KO but we need to be acquiring better talent, not more picks

[slightly biased bias fan]

Imagine the Raptors starting five of:

Olynyk
Carroll
Ross
DeRozan
Lowry

That wouldn't be the lineup, it would be

JV
KO
Carroll
Derozan
Lowry

Carroll is 6'8 defensive animal, he is a modern 4 the only reason to start two bigs is if they face the Grizzlies or Cavs

Then Olynyk would be pointless because JV is better than him and they might as well just use their #9 pick.

JV can't pass, nor shoot 3's and Olynyk can run the floor better and passes like a PG.

And JV is also much better inside and a better rebounder. 2 things you want your center to excel at. There's a reason why JV is starting for the #2 seed and KO is coming off the bench for the #4 seed.

That's ridiculous rationality, you can't compare two different teams with different coaches, schemes and players...you're essentially saying that Iguodala or Ginobili suck because they come off the bench.

Olynyk doesn't start because he's been injured most of the season and the starting line up has been settled, and because he isn't a shot blocker and our team doesn't have a 4 who can protect the rim, Toronto do with Carroll.