Most likely all-star c's can trade for ? (POLL)

[BornReady]

I'm saying cousins
Cause it is clear that cousins would probably leave kings if he was a free agent
As mismanagement, assortment of coaches and GMs and owners, and never even coming close to playoffs
Probably makes cousins dissatisfied with the team
As well as him getting a lot of the blame for losses

Butler seems the least likely as he is young enough for Bulls to build around

Gasol is unlikely unless grizzlies are rebuilding
Also hard to see doc getting rid of griffin
Melo unlikely to join us as he has a no trade clause that he'd probably use unless traded to a definite contender like cavs, Spurs or GSW

Love is second most likely as its not working with the cavs
Plus they have Thompson who plays the same position
There's a huge drop off offensively but they gain much needed defense in putting Thompson
That said love only gets traded if it can land cavs someone Lebron likes such as melo
Even though guys like Bradley and crowder would be pieces that fit perfectly into their team and would bring much needed toughness and defense

[crimson_stallion]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

[makaveli]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

crowder or smart plus the pick is my price tag for butler...

[CroCorvus]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Are you serious? Giving up Jae and Smart with BKN pick is not an overpay for Butler? Do you watch our games man? You take out those two and replace them with Butler and we win 20+ games this season. And I love Jimmy.

I was pushing for the Bulls or the Pistons first round matchup versus the Cavs (instead it seems they will face spineless Indy (sweep)), but in the end I am little bit glad the Bulls will miss the playoffs. They didn't deserve it and they are a completely messed up team. There's a good chance they go full rebuild and if we get third or lower pick, I would consider to trade it,along with maybe two other picks (non BKN) and fillers, for Butler. No way I'm including Jae or Smart, no way. 

[Boris Badenov]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Are you serious? Giving up Jae and Smart with BKN pick is not an overpay for Butler? Do you watch our games man? You take out those two and replace them with Butler and we win 20+ games this season. And I love Jimmy.

I was pushing for the Bulls or the Pistons first round matchup versus the Cavs (instead it seems they will face spineless Indy (sweep)), but in the end I am little bit glad the Bulls will miss the playoffs. They didn't deserve it and they are a completely messed up team. There's a good chance they go full rebuild and if we get third or lower pick, I would consider to trade it,along with maybe two other picks (non BKN) and fillers, for Butler. No way I'm including Jae or Smart, no way.

That seems like a narrow way to think about the decision.

While we'd lose a lot by giving up Smart and Crowder, we can look for replacements, and it's a lot easier to replace Crowder and Smart than Butler.

So the question is, which would you have: Smart+Crowder+(whomever we get at SG instead of  Butler)?

Or, Butler + (whomever we get to replace Smart and Crowder)?

I'll take the second one, because even with passable replacements for Smart and Crowder Butler's talent means the second group trumps the first group.

[CFAN38]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Are you serious? Giving up Jae and Smart with BKN pick is not an overpay for Butler? Do you watch our games man? You take out those two and replace them with Butler and we win 20+ games this season. And I love Jimmy.

I was pushing for the Bulls or the Pistons first round matchup versus the Cavs (instead it seems they will face spineless Indy (sweep)), but in the end I am little bit glad the Bulls will miss the playoffs. They didn't deserve it and they are a completely messed up team. There's a good chance they go full rebuild and if we get third or lower pick, I would consider to trade it,along with maybe two other picks (non BKN) and fillers, for Butler. No way I'm including Jae or Smart, no way.

That seems like a narrow way to think about the decision.

While we'd lose a lot by giving up Smart and Crowder, we can look for replacements, and it's a lot easier to replace Crowder and Smart than Butler.

So the question is, which would you have: Smart+Crowder+(whomever we get at SG instead of  Butler)?

Or, Butler + (whomever we get to replace Smart and Crowder)?

I'll take the second one, because even with passable replacements for Smart and Crowder Butler's talent means the second group trumps the first group.

I think best case for the Cs is smart, nets pick and additional firsts for butler and then get AB to guy into 6th man role. Swinging butler to SF and Crowder to the PF for small ball with IT and AB would make this team a legit finals contender.

[fubar089]

Love
Cousins
Butler

[loco_91]

I voted for Blake. I think if the Clippers get abused by the Warriors in the second round, Doc will be ready to make a trade. The rumor is that he was taking calls at the deadline but didn't get an offer that he liked.

[crimson_stallion]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Are you serious? Giving up Jae and Smart with BKN pick is not an overpay for Butler? Do you watch our games man? You take out those two and replace them with Butler and we win 20+ games this season. And I love Jimmy.

I was pushing for the Bulls or the Pistons first round matchup versus the Cavs (instead it seems they will face spineless Indy (sweep)), but in the end I am little bit glad the Bulls will miss the playoffs. They didn't deserve it and they are a completely messed up team. There's a good chance they go full rebuild and if we get third or lower pick, I would consider to trade it,along with maybe two other picks (non BKN) and fillers, for Butler. No way I'm including Jae or Smart, no way.

The problem is that you're allowing your emotional attachment to the individual players / people blind your judgement.

* The Brooklyn pick is a high lottery pick
* Crowder is a good starter
* Smart is a prospect who is still fairly raw

You're talking about trading a high lottery pick, a good starter and a fairly raw prospect...for a two-way perennial All-Star (superstar, even) in his mid 20s who is top 2 at his position, and locked in to a decent, long term contract.

Think of it that way and its definately not an overpay.

Also you want to offer a pick outside the top 2, plus two utterly mediocre picks, for Jimmy Butler?  The Bulls GM will laugh so hard he'll probably fall of his chair.  Why on earth would they trade a young superstar on a long term contract for a bunch of draft pics in a mediocre draft?  That's utterly rediculous.  They'll want at least one proven young player, at least one prospect with upside, and a lottery pick.

You're criminally underrating Butler's value.

[slamtheking]

most likely they could get in a trade -- Love.  not for first option I'd want them to go for but he's the most likely player they could get in terms of being available at a cost the C's could afford to pay

No thanks I don't want soft Kevin "I can't play defense" Love.

don't want Love either but the question is which is the most likely we could trade for

[CroCorvus]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Are you serious? Giving up Jae and Smart with BKN pick is not an overpay for Butler? Do you watch our games man? You take out those two and replace them with Butler and we win 20+ games this season. And I love Jimmy.

I was pushing for the Bulls or the Pistons first round matchup versus the Cavs (instead it seems they will face spineless Indy (sweep)), but in the end I am little bit glad the Bulls will miss the playoffs. They didn't deserve it and they are a completely messed up team. There's a good chance they go full rebuild and if we get third or lower pick, I would consider to trade it,along with maybe two other picks (non BKN) and fillers, for Butler. No way I'm including Jae or Smart, no way.

The problem is that you're allowing your emotional attachment to the individual players / people blind your judgement.

* The Brooklyn pick is a high lottery pick
* Crowder is a good starter
* Smart is a prospect who is still fairly raw

You're talking about trading a high lottery pick, a good starter and a fairly raw prospect...for a two-way perennial All-Star (superstar, even) in his mid 20s who is top 2 at his position, and locked in to a decent, long term contract.

Think of it that way and its definately not an overpay.

Also you want to offer a pick outside the top 2, plus two utterly mediocre picks, for Jimmy Butler?  The Bulls GM will laugh so hard he'll probably fall of his chair.  Why on earth would they trade a young superstar on a long term contract for a bunch of draft pics in a mediocre draft?  That's utterly rediculous.  They'll want at least one proven young player, at least one prospect with upside, and a lottery pick.

You're criminally underrating Butler's value.

Of course I'm letting my emotions taking a part of my judgement because I love those two, love how they play and I absolutely love they are Celtics. I watch them play and I know something or two about basketball so that I can say those two are not something you could come up any day of the week by some silly trade or by selecting in the draft. You may laugh but I'm telling you those two are two major stones in our quest for No. 18. Jae is extremely good player for that long term contract and Smart is a player that gets you wins and right mind setup to your team. He's not flashy and he may not be a great shooter but he plays 100% every game and that sets the tone for the others. You don't get to see that in stat sheet, but it sure feels right when you watch the game (if you care about that).

That way I think you are diminishing their value and upping JB's value. I like him very much and think he's very, very good player but the question about him being a franchise player and a true leader is still open. You could see that this season with the Bulls. I'm not saying it's his fault but it sure isn't Snell's or McDougie's. Yeah Hoiberg is rookie coach, D Rose is always injured and Gasol is puss, but great deal of this weird season is on him. He didn't play and act the way he should, the way true leaders play and that is lead by an example and not by his mouth. That's like you saying that Harden is great player and it's not his fault that his team is playing like bunch of retard's... And then there is also Butlers health issues which is something to be cautious...

There you go, why would I trade two of my four best players and a high pick (#3) for a good player on a non playoff team, which is not a franchise player, not a great leader and potentially has some serious health issues? You could see it that way, don't you? As they say, every seller's donkey is great and valuable to him more then to the buyer (but the buyer want's to buy him any way). Hope you get what I'm saying lol.

I'm not saying we should trade for him at all costs but only if Chicago is willing to and something like BKN 2016, Dallas 2016, Boston 2017 and fillers is something I would be willing to do. Maybe something different here and there but def not Jae and Smart...   

[rondohondo]

I feel if Danny trades for Butler , he is going to keep his college teammate Crowder who I assume he is good friends with .

I could see AB, Smart and Brk 16 for Butler

would allow use to offer close to 2 max contracts

Say we could sign Durant and Dwight Howard

Leaves us with

IT             / Rozier
Butler       / Hunter
Durant      / Crowder
KO            / Mickey
Dwight       / Vet min

Plus a bunch of picks to come

oh the possibilities .....

[spikelovetheCelts]

Crowder smart and a top 3 pick is an overpay for buttler

Butler us arguably the best SG in the NBA.

Crowder is not even top 5 at his position, Smart is a one dimensional role player, and the none of the guys in this year's draft looks like a surefire star.

It's absolutely not an overpay.  Butler is by far the best asset in that deal.

Ingram will be better than Butler for sure. Crowder and Smart both get better everyday. Butler may have already peaked. If we can get the Gasol Brothers. I would go for that they are winners.