No thread on Sully's play vs. Draymond Green?

[TheFlex]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.

TP.

[Neurotic Guy]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.

I'm not sure that I think he's the most talented all-around, but I definitely could see him being a Celtics MVP candidate in the playoffs.  He will have every reason to be optimally motivated and I love how he plays when he's got mind and body fully invested. 

[Vox_Populi]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.

This is more or less the third straight season where it has become apparent Sully is one of the three or four most important players on the team. He understands the system on defense and offense.

I guess that's just why we all want him to lose some weight. Some of his girth is definitely important to his game, but you just assume he could be better if he thinned down some.

[Celtics4ever]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.

99.9% of people who are not his relatives, think it is IT.

[rickyfan3.0...]

Very good point about Sully. I sort of feel the same way about he and Turner. They both go under the radar and really produce for us.

Sully has been GREAT this year.

[Dino Pitino]

I feel bad for the fans who overcriticize Sully so they don't have to confront the idea of losing someone crucial to our identity and success.

[Celtics4ever]

I feel bad for the fans who overcriticize Sully so they don't have to confront the idea of losing someone crucial to our identity and success.

He had a great game against GS, then a poor game against LA.  Jared is the Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hide, who gets up for big games and whiffs on the small time ones.   The rebounding will be hard to replace as he is borderline elite.   I think we can easily get a guy who can defend as well, and getting someone who shoots better won't be a problem.   44% from the field for a big is poor.  His energy level has been better and his conditioning but it is the dreaded contract year.

I am all for keeping him with the right price.  I think he would be a strong bench guy in spurts behind a good C or PF.   This would maximize his strengths.   But I won't mind seeing him walk either.

But if you think for a moment that some of us, who criticize him are trying to not face the reality of losing him, you better not quit your day job and go into psychotherapy.   Because in my case, you are completely and utterly wrong.   

[TheSundanceKid]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.

I would agree that he's the most talented all around big but I think Thomas has him beat as an overall player.

There's more to come from Sully, I'll be very interested to watch him in the playoffs to see how he performs after a healthy season. Against Cleveland last year he was good but coming back from injury so probably not fully comfortable.

If we signed him to a $60m/4 contract this summer I would be very confident that in the summer of 2017 we will be thinking "what a great deal by Danny"

[Green-Bananas]

I feel bad for the fans who overcriticize Sully so they don't have to confront the idea of losing someone crucial to our identity and success.

He had a great game against GS, then a poor game against LA.  Jared is the Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hide, who gets up for big games and whiffs on the small time ones.   The rebounding will be hard to replace as he is borderline elite.   I think we can easily get a guy who can defend as well, and getting someone who shoots better won't be a problem.   44% from the field for a big is poor.  His energy level has been better and his conditioning but it is the dreaded contract year.

I am all for keeping him with the right price.  I think he would be a strong bench guy in spurts behind a good C or PF.   This would maximize his strengths.   But I won't mind seeing him walk either.

But if you think for a moment that some of us, who criticize him are trying to not face the reality of losing him, you better not quit your day job and go into psychotherapy.   Because in my case, you are completely and utterly wrong.   

TP. My sentiments exactly... Just because one doesn't want to overpay, doesn't mean they don't appreciate his skills.  This off-season will be critical to the C's future If they plan to make the next step. Overpaying Sully now could cost you a year or two down the rode. It's better to sign him at a bargain, and if you can't then sign someone slightly less to be better prepared for the future.

[Dino Pitino]

It's better to sign him at a bargain, and if you can't then sign someone slightly less to be better prepared for the future.

Okay. Then also just be prepared in case the defense takes a bigger step down than you expect.

[PhoSita]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

Definitely disagree; even if you want to make the "he needs to have a lot of talent to overcome his physical limitations" argument, that applies double to IT.

Sullinger is an interesting player.  His mid-range jumper (and occasionally his spot up three pointer) is a weapon.  He's a good rebounder.  In certain matchups (see thread title) his ability to post-up is useful.  He's a good passer.  His defense is quite solid for a none-too-agile, ground-bound, tough-to-move undersized center. 

At the same time, his scoring efficiency is atrocious for a big man, and his continued lack of fitness means the concerns about his energy level playing late in games, and his ability to stay on the court, are ongoing.


Somebody out there will probably offer him a bunch of money this summer.  It might even be the Celtics, though I'm hoping they'll find a way to upgrade the spot.  If we could be sure Sully would give the Celtics another 3 or 4 seasons like this one, he'd definitely be worth $13 or 14 million a year in this cap environment, despite his limitations.  He can provide some good value as long as his frontcourt partner is somebody springier who can finish inside.  The question, of course, is will his back / foot issues come up again?

I still think I'd prefer to offer him a short term deal, if the Celts re-sign him at all.