No thread on Sully's play vs. Draymond Green?

[jambr380]

Loved Sully last night, but he wasn't so effective in the last game against GSW (where KO was).  I think some credit has to go to Stevens in managing Sully's minutes - at only 24 MPG, he is able to be ultra-effective and expend full energy while on the court.

I am all for holding on to Sully and paying him a reasonable amount, especially if we aren't able to sign/trade for a plus rebounding star; I just hope that last summer wasn't his only attempt to get in shape...because it didn't really work.

[BornReady]

I'm surprised no one is talking about Sullys play as much
I mean he did as much damage as Bradley and Thomas

20 and 12 that's what I want to see him doing more often

[LilRip]

gotta give credit where credit is due. Sully played terrific. His rebounding is elite.

I'm still not a fan of signing him to big money but I would love to have him back at a reasonable price.

[TheSundanceKid]

I think his conditioning has improved a lot.

The ESPN announcers were commenting that Sully was gassed in their first game in Boston, and in this game he was relentless and never seemed like he was struggling with fitness.

Yep, I came here to say the same thing. His weight hasn't really dropped this year but he's said multiple times that it's about being able to maintain his level of performance into the 4th. He really showed that progress.

He still has another step forward to go with that to show 30mpg for a season. Another step would be improving his leaping ability to further enhance rebounding and put backs.

At this point I'm happy that people are coming round to the idea of keeping him. Now I'm looking forward to people coming round to the idea that we'll pay $60m/4 years for him. It's gonna happen people!

[makaveli]

there is no doubt, the game against GSW was Sully's best game as a Celtic. Defence, rebounding, scoring I was truly impressed, keep it up big fella

[TA9]

Sully was great against the Warriors and Green, but it's just a shame that he can't do it on a consistent basis. Can literally look like an all-star one night and an average player the next game.

[Celtics4ever]

Sully was great against the Warriors and Green, but it's just a shame that he can't do it on a consistent basis. Can literally look like an all-star one night and an average player the next game.

He certainly seems to pick and choose his moments.  The real question is what about the play and the contract year. 

I would offer him around  9 million, he is not a better player than AB, night in and night out.

[TheFlex]

Sully was great against the Warriors and Green, but it's just a shame that he can't do it on a consistent basis. Can literally look like an all-star one night and an average player the next game.

Very true. But one thing Sullinger has given the Cs consistently is ironically a contribution lacking in his first few seasons: defensive energy and activity. For a guy that can't run, jump, pivot, etc. as fast as his peers, Sullinger finds a way to force turnovers almost every game nowadays.

To me, this makes Sullinger very valuable. He still has his shooting stinkers now and then, but Sullinger is slowly adding facets to his game that don't depend on his scoring success, like rebounding, defense, and passing. Sullinger appears to be more committed to these things and thus has remained an impact player even when he can't find the bottom of the net.

[Green-Bananas]

Yes, Sully had a great game against a premiere opponent, but I’m not surprised. Imagine if he could keep his weight under control, and stay healthy this would be just a little about his average. It’s a contract year, Right?

All the Sully fans hoping to lock him up for a long term deal, will regret it when he comes back next fall over weight. It’s a shame because he’s extremely talented and plays the PF just like you’d draw it up. And when he’s on can stretch the floor too. I mean what else can you ask for?

I’m all for signing Sully at a value, but I’d rather go another route if DA can’t. First, I’d like to see DA upgrade the position via trade or FA. If he can’t then sign someone else who’s slightly less talented or productive but will stay “HEALTHY” and use the extra cap space elsewhere.

I try not to fall for players in their contract year, because usually they are playing above their average. Sully’s average was last year, when he did have something to play for. But he only decided it was important to get himself in shape (I use the term “shape” lightly) for a bigger contract. 

Anyone remember Mark Blount?

[GreenFaith1819]

Yes, Sully had a great game against a premiere opponent, but I’m not surprised. Imagine if he could keep his weight under control, and stay healthy this would be just a little about his average. It’s a contract year, Right?

All the Sully fans hoping to lock him up for a long term deal, will regret it when he comes back next fall over weight. It’s a shame because he’s extremely talented and plays the PF just like you’d draw it up. And when he’s on can stretch the floor too. I mean what else can you ask for?

I’m all for signing Sully at a value, but I’d rather go another route if DA can’t. First, I’d like to see DA upgrade the position via trade or FA. If he can’t then sign someone else who’s slightly less talented or productive but will stay “HEALTHY” and use the extra cap space elsewhere.

I try not to fall for players in their contract year, because usually they are playing above their average. Sully’s average was last year, when he did have something to play for. But he only decided it was important to get himself in shape (I use the term “shape” lightly) for a bigger contract. 

Anyone remember Mark Blount?

Jared Sullinger - for all of his supposed / actual faults - is no QUITTER, though. Mark Blount IS.

I still - to this day - can't fathom what made him quit like that.

[nickagneta]

Yes, Sully had a great game against a premiere opponent, but I’m not surprised. Imagine if he could keep his weight under control, and stay healthy this would be just a little about his average. It’s a contract year, Right?

All the Sully fans hoping to lock him up for a long term deal, will regret it when he comes back next fall over weight. It’s a shame because he’s extremely talented and plays the PF just like you’d draw it up. And when he’s on can stretch the floor too. I mean what else can you ask for?

I’m all for signing Sully at a value, but I’d rather go another route if DA can’t. First, I’d like to see DA upgrade the position via trade or FA. If he can’t then sign someone else who’s slightly less talented or productive but will stay “HEALTHY” and use the extra cap space elsewhere.

I try not to fall for players in their contract year, because usually they are playing above their average. Sully’s average was last year, when he did have something to play for. But he only decided it was important to get himself in shape (I use the term “shape” lightly) for a bigger contract. 

Anyone remember Mark Blount?

his health comes up as a problem at times, but Sully played in 75 games this year and 74 games two years ago. Yes, he missed 24 games last year but over the last three years he has been fairly healthy. His weight is his problem and, yes, it affects his game and ability to stay healthy long term but for two of the last three years he has been playing in over 90% of the games the. Celtics have played in. And last year, he had only one extended time of being out.

Sully has to lose weight to make himself more athletic and reduce the chance of injury, but for the last three years he has been fairly healthy.

Now, Olynyk. There is a guy that's injured a lot.

[timpiker]

I really hope we can keep Sully budget-wise.

[TheSundanceKid]

Sully was great against the Warriors and Green, but it's just a shame that he can't do it on a consistent basis. Can literally look like an all-star one night and an average player the next game.

He certainly seems to pick and choose his moments.  The real question is what about the play and the contract year. 

I would offer him around  9 million, he is not a better player than AB, night in and night out.

The thing you have to remember with that statement is the rising cap. Better to look at it as a proportion of the cap when they sign. Also he's a big and they tend to cost more.

People also need to be careful. If we undervalue our own players to the point that we let them walk there is no guarantee we will get quality FA to replace them. Signing Sully to a 3 or 4 year contract starting at $14-15m doesn't make him untradeable but it does retain us an asset

[SHAQATTACK]

Sully was great against the Warriors and Green, but it's just a shame that he can't do it on a consistent basis. Can literally look like an all-star one night and an average player the next game.

He certainly seems to pick and choose his moments.  The real question is what about the play and the contract year. 

I would offer him around  9 million, he is not a better player than AB, night in and night out.

The thing you have to remember with that statement is the rising cap. Better to look at it as a proportion of the cap when they sign. Also he's a big and they tend to cost more.

People also need to be careful. If we undervalue our own players to the point that we let them walk there is no guarantee we will get quality FA to replace them. Signing Sully to a 3 or 4 year contract starting at $14-15m doesn't make him untradeable but it does retain us an asset

Exactly ! TP ! ......especially BiGs .....like there are 25 replacements WE can get that can play better than Sully .....waiting to sign with Celtics?  I doubt it.

Too easy to wind up like Rockets ......think they had Bosh .....give away Parsens to their arch enemy Dallas and then loose Bosh .

We could do a lot worse than Sully

[mctyson]

I have said it all along on this blog, and maybe no one agrees with me, but I think Sullinger is the most talented all-around player on the Celtics roster.

It's going to be very interesting to see what offers he gets from other teams.