Green, first player to go 1000,500,500,100,100

[wayupnorth]

Danny won us a championship by drafting a lot of really solid players late in the draft.  End of discussion on Danny's GMing abilities.

There is no way on Earth to compare Danny's draft abilities to the elite teams in this league.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha that is rich.

[Eja117]

Danny won us a championship by drafting a lot of really solid players late in the draft.  End of discussion on Danny's GMing abilities.

There is no way on Earth to compare Danny's draft abilities to the elite teams in this league.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha that is rich.

You know who's rich? Fab Melo. Because Danny drafted him and gave him an NBA contract

[Eja117]

Toronto picked Kyle Lowry 24th

Milwaukee picked Giannis in the teens after KO

The Bulls got Jimmy Butler 30th

Hassan Whiteside...where was he taken? Pretty good player?

Manu Ginobli. Tony Parker. Luis Scola. Where were they taken?

Kyle Korver...51rst

Jeff Teague taken 19th

Why are people acting like it's impossible to do this?

I guess for the same reason you're acting like so many teams do it.

Lowry and Korver were on their 3rd and 4th teams before being All-Stars, and it took 10+ seasons in the NBA for them to do it.  So why doesn't Ainge get credit for Isaiah Thomas?

The same GM that drafted Giannis took Jimmer Fredette ahead of Klay Thompson (and made several trades that started with this pick, getting nothing close to the value of Klay Thompson).

Are you saying Luis Scola is better than anybody Ainge has drafted?

And why again doesn't Ainge get credit for Rondo at #21?

Yes I am saying Scola is better than some of the people Ainge has drafted.

Ainge can have credit for the Rondo pick. How do the "Rondo was a disaster" crowd feel about it? Or how about the "Rondo was only good because he played with three all stars and Perkins crowd"?

Yes Kyle K took a while to get good. It took a while for Al J to make 3rd team all NBA in a year he didn't make the all star game too. 

Could someone please point to me the huge home run that Ainge has hit in the draft? The place were there was a difficult non obvious pick to make and he just nailed it.  The point where he just plucked a gem and beat everyone.

Or are people going to point out Al Jefferson because Robert Swift and Sebastian Telfair was already picked?

[Big333223]

The draft is a crapshoot. Ainge isn't a genius at it but there aren't many GM's out there who are outperforming his record, as slamtheking pointed out.

As for Draymond, however arbitrary the numbers are, it's still a compelling portrait of his versatility that no one else has ever done this and there's still 6 games left.

[BitterJim]

Danny Ainge has been drafting for us since 2003. He has picked about 31 players now. Not a single one has become an all star.

Tired of missing them. Not Chandler Parsons. Jimmy Butler. Not this guy. Not Isaiah Thomas. Jordan Clarkson. Coulda drafted them. Didn't.

because Danny was the only GM that didn't pick them when those players were still on the board.


If it reaches a point where the bulk of Danny's picks would not have been picked earlier in a redraft than they originally were in the draft, then you may begin to have something to whine about.

Look back ten years. Almost none of his picks would get drafted higher. Maybe Avery, Sully, Rj H, Jordan Mickey and that's it.

Gomes doesn't make you a good drafter.

ok, let's go back 10 years, heck let's go back to 2004 just for fun.  We'll use the DraftSite.com draft redo's as reference since they're the one I can find annual redrafts for

2004: Al Jefferson 15 to 2, Tony Allen 25 to 10, Delonte West 24 to 24   ==> Danny 2 big wins on that one and if Delonte hadn't flamed out, he'd be higher.
2005: Gerald Green 18 to 22 , Ryan Gomes 50, Orien Greene 53 ==> Green slid but was an upside pick at the time and is back in the NBA.  we'll see where he ends up at the end of his career.  Gomes was a key piece to the KG trade.  Greene -- got some time even as the #53 player picked.
2006: Randy Foye --> traded, Leon Powe - #46 from Nuggets.   a key bench player for the championship
2007: Jeff Green --> traded, Gabe Pruitt - 32,  Glen Davis (part of the Ray Allen trade) 35 to 9 and a key bench player for the championship.
2008: JR Giddens 30 --> complete bust., Semih Erden - 60 --> decent looking prospect until he was injured then traded.
2009: Lester Hudson 58 -->hung around for awhile and has recently resurfaced in the league again.
2010: Avery Bradley 19 to 11 , Luke Harangody 52 --> what do you expect from #52?
2011: JuJaun Johnson 27 (in trade for Marshon Brooks) --> busted , E'Tuan Moore 55 --> still playing for the Bulls.
2012: Jared Sullinger 21 to 8, Fab Melo 22 --> complete bust, Kris Joseph 51 --> bounced around from D-League to NBA on call-ups
2013: Kelly Olynyk (draft day trade) 13 to 16.  How this site rates him behind the likes of Otto Porter, Ben Mclemore, Mason Plumlee and Cody Zeller is beyond me.  Only site I've seen drop KO in position but that's me being honest with what I'm posting
2014: Marcus Smart 6 to 11, James Young 9 to 29.  Smart behind Randle, Exum, Hood, Capela, Payton, Lavine and Clarkson.  not buying it.  evidently putting a high emphasis on offense without regard to D.  Can't believe Young is even rated.
2015: Terry Rozier 16 to 19 --> hard to argue with the lack of playing time, RJ Hunter 28 to 29 -->some of the names ahead of him I've never heard of but again--lack of playing time would justify a lower position, Jordan Mickey 33 --> looking like a solid prospect , Marcus Thornton 45 --> no expectations with this pick at all.

bottom line, danny's record is pretty respectable overall.  has he hit a Big Al type of home run recently, no.  Has he botched the draft completely where there were obvious better players still on the board?  sure, Giddens and Fab but a case can be made for everyone else he picked that they were a solid pick at that time.

It's hard to do a redraft until a few years later (usually until players are done with their rookie contracts), so the past couple of years are pretty useless

[Monkhouse]

Danny Ainge has been drafting for us since 2003. He has picked about 31 players now. Not a single one has become an all star.

Tired of missing them. Not Chandler Parsons. Jimmy Butler. Not this guy. Not Isaiah Thomas. Jordan Clarkson. Coulda drafted them. Didn't.

And yet he has the assets and definitely more to acquire them. Yes I'm not convinced on Ainge's sound decision making draft time, but you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be able to acquire any of your favorite players. Its easy to judge Ainge for his draft decisions, but then again you can pinpoint the same argument on the other GM's that missed out too.

And shoutout to Draymond Green. He is an absolute monster, and stud. He puts his heart and soul out on the floor, and you can see it. Pure magic, pretty intense just like Noah and Garnett. They really impact both ways, and set the tone for the game. Hes the engine that keeps the team alive.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Rondo was an All Star