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Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #135 on: March 31, 2016, 10:05:23 AM »

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Ok. Whoa. Did not expect this.
They suggest it would take Marcus Smart and a pick.  I think it would have to be a pretty good pick.  Two years of minimal improvement hurt a prospects' trade value.  If Smart doesn't start showing offensive progress soon, his trade value will plummet. 

Russell, on the other hand, shows many signs of being a star in this league some day.  I'd gladly trade Smart and a pick for him.

Still, I think the Lakers are better off just trading/cutting everyone else and keeping Russell.

Lol this is exactly what I am talking about.

Kid is juvenile, immature, and foolish, having alienated himself from his teammates in just his first season, and you want him over a guy known for grit, toughness, and resolve, and while having a rough offensive stretch, is still makes winning plays over and over again.

Seriously, it gets really old seeing you defend guys like Okafore and Russel, while dogging on celtics players all the time.

First it was that Randle is way better than Smart, then it was Brooklyn will be a playoff contender, then it was how awesome Oakfor and Russell are when they have been terrible NBA rookies, when off court antics are considered  (which Danny clearly considers ).

Why?

I get different opinions, but you, in all honesty do not come off like you root for the celtics.

I am not saying you dont, or are a bad fan, or anything like that, but if someone read your posts, and didn't see your username, they could very easily assume you root for someone other than the celtics.

Yeah I'm just like a lot of the people here.  I'm 25.  I was obsessed with Larry Bird when I was younger, but the total number of Bird basketball cards was probably greater than the total number of Bird games I had watched.   I remember seeing him dunk in an allstar game.  And my only two truly vivid memories of watching him play was a double overtime game against Portland and the famous Indiana playoff game where he hit his head on the floor and came storming back to win the game for us.   I use to live in Florida.  My dad would actually pull me out of my class early so I could go to the local sportsbar and watch the playoff games with him.

I also remember the game when Reggie Lewis collapsed mid court... and I was visiting Boston the day the headline read "Lewis Dead".

I've always had tons of celtic-related posters, figurines, basketball cards and clothing, but it was hard to follow team in the early 90s when I lived in Florida/Seattle. I really didn't have a chance to get deep into my Celtic obsession until Pitino came on board.  It also happened to be right around when I first had access to the internet in 96/97.  That changed things for sportsfans.  Not only could I easily follow box scores, but ever since day 1 of the Pitino era I've been able to either listen to the radio broadcast of the games online or watch the games via NBA League Pass.  I've pretty much listened to or watched every game since then. 

This entire season has been surreal.  If we are able to win one of the next 2 games I might just break down in tears.

I was really disappointed they didn't do a quick interview with Ainge at the celebration podium.  I wanted to hear the fans chanting "DANNY!  DANNY!  DANNY!".... with all the crap this guy got over the years he really deserved an outpouring of support.  Maybe at the parade?  In my mind, he deserves credit more than anyone on the team.  The architect did an incredible job putting this miracle team together.  I'll be forever grateful of Danny Ainge. He's a freakin hero in my book. Glad to see KG and Pierce rubbing his head and joining with him in the celebration, but I felt like there should be a massive group of critics and sports writers lining up to kiss Ainge's butt after this championship.

What now!?!?!! ! 

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!  EAT THAT CROW!!!! EAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm too young to remember the other ones... so that was definitely the greatest sports season of my life.  Just amazing considering where we were a year ago.  This franchise was pretty much dead when the lotto said #5.  This is totally unthinkable at that point.  People were pretty much throwing in the towel.

I could find many, more recent, posts to try and prove my point, but that is not what I am getting at.

The guy is a good contributer to the boards, and I certainly know he IS a green blooded Celtics fan.

That is why his constant extreme pessimism about the team, while giving other teams the extreme benefit of the doubt, drives me so nuts.

I truly do not get it. I get not getting your hopes so high that it sucks when they fall apart, but the level he often takes it to, is just nuts!

As big a fan as LarBrd is of the Celtics, he's just as big a fan of thinking he's smarter than everyone else.  Just about everything he ever posts that annoys people is an example of the sort of "I'm smarter than you" contrarianism that drives people up the wall.

Dumping on Celtics players while being enthusiatic about guys like Stauskas, Biyombo and Anthony Bennett.

Arguing the Nets will be decent long after it was clear they were going to suck.

His obsession with defending the genius of Hinkie.

When he resists that temptation, he's a good guy to have around here.

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Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #136 on: April 01, 2016, 12:50:29 AM »

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Ok. Whoa. Did not expect this.
They suggest it would take Marcus Smart and a pick.  I think it would have to be a pretty good pick.  Two years of minimal improvement hurt a prospects' trade value.  If Smart doesn't start showing offensive progress soon, his trade value will plummet. 

Russell, on the other hand, shows many signs of being a star in this league some day.  I'd gladly trade Smart and a pick for him.

Still, I think the Lakers are better off just trading/cutting everyone else and keeping Russell.

Lol this is exactly what I am talking about.

Kid is juvenile, immature, and foolish, having alienated himself from his teammates in just his first season, and you want him over a guy known for grit, toughness, and resolve, and while having a rough offensive stretch, is still makes winning plays over and over again.

Seriously, it gets really old seeing you defend guys like Okafore and Russel, while dogging on celtics players all the time.

First it was that Randle is way better than Smart, then it was Brooklyn will be a playoff contender, then it was how awesome Oakfor and Russell are when they have been terrible NBA rookies, when off court antics are considered  (which Danny clearly considers ).

Why?

I get different opinions, but you, in all honesty do not come off like you root for the celtics.

I am not saying you dont, or are a bad fan, or anything like that, but if someone read your posts, and didn't see your username, they could very easily assume you root for someone other than the celtics.

Is Russell immature?  Sure.  He just turned 20 years old.  He's a kid.  At times this season, it's been clear he hates playing on the Lakers.  He hates his coach... so much so that one of his teammates was overheard whispering "don't say anything crazy" when Russell asked about Byron Scott in an interview.  This has to be a miserable season for him.   Is it wrong to videotape your teammate and allow it to leak online?  Sure.  Do I give him a pass on it?  Yup.  Talent, baby.   Russell has undeniable talent.  I was a fan of him before the draft and I've been a fan of what I've seen of him as a 19 year old.  Clearly he has a way to go, but I'm a fan of what I see.   He can be special.  To me, it looks like he'll end up a Kyrie Irving-level player... that is, if his career isn't over after videotaping some cheating scrub of a journeyman. 


Since the all-star break he's averaged 16 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 1.2 steal with 42%/41%/76% shooting in just 28 minutes... which is great for a player his age playing that position.   Those shooting percentages will likely jump (guys like LeBron and Durant shot around 40% as rookies).   I was willing to bet on Russell before the draft and I still am... regardless of his twitter mistake.

Was his behavior immature?  Yes.   For the record, you're wrong about how I look at the Celtic players.  I'm generally pretty reasonable.  I've given plenty of them props this year.  I've had many praising posts this year alone about Kelly Olynyk, Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley and others.  I give them props when they deserve it.  People gloss over those, because of my reputation here.   Jared Sullinger is a great example.  I was one of the only people defending him this Summer.  I pointed out his stats pre-injury were pretty outstanding.  I pointed out that his per numbers in the playoffs were actually pretty solid.  I wasn't willing to say his career was over like some of the folks here.  I didn't see him as a long-term part of this team's future (still don't), but I wasn't going to ignore his talent because of his behavior.

Has Sully done some immature things in the past?  Sure.  I gave him a pass for the domestic violence stuff, the showing up late/missing practices, the inability to keep his weight in check.  Sully showed all the immaturity of a D'Angelo Russell, but was on a less volatile team with more competent management, ownership and coaching.  Who knows what kind of antics Sully would have had on a circus of a team like the Lakers.   But yeah, I gave him a pass.

As for Smart, I've repeatedly given him the benefit of the doubt.  Up until very recently, I remained steadfast in my belief that he was THE most valuable asset on this team.  A month ago I polled this forum on whether they would hypothetically trade Smart for the Suns unprotected pick... 85% of this forum, MYSELF INCLUDED, homerishly voted that they wouldn't trade him for the pick.  More recently, I wrote an extensive post about my feelings about Smart:     
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=83549.msg2054189#msg2054189 

In short, I'm still hopefully he'll make a leap, but I can't pretend like I'm not disappointed in his offensive play thus far.   And let's just get this out of the way... Would I give Smart a pass if he displayed the same immaturity of D'Angelo Russell?  Yes.  I would ... and I HAVE.   Smart is two years older than D'Angelo Russell.   Let's go back in time two years to see how Marcus Smart was behaving as a 20 year old.   I wonder if he was pulling any kind of immature antics?  Hmm...  Let's hop in the time machine.   Oh... what's this?   Marcus Smart physically assaulting a fan on National television?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5sGdUIC-X8

I never at any point held that incident against Smart.  Actually, I'm pretty sure if someone dug through the ol LarBrd33 archives you'd find some pre-draft posts from me glossing over the incident and suggesting that it was just a sign of his competitiveness.   Yes, I give young Celtic players the same leeway I do opposing young guys I want us to trade for.

And for the record, it's CSNNE who wrote the article suggesting a possible Russell for Smart + picks trade.  They were just jumping on the scandal to get some clicks from Celtics fans, but I'm supportive of their hypothetical.  I think we'd need to include a pretty substantial 1st rounder along with Smart to get the Lakers talking, though.
So apparently Nick Young and Russell had been participating in a prank war all season.  Young taped Russell flirting with some playboy models and posted it on his social media to embarrass him recently.   Russell apparently took this video and private messaged it to Nick Young.  Russell himself claims he doesn't know how it got out and it sounds like the consensus is that his account was hacked... but maybe it was just a prank war gone bad.   

FWIW, there's also a small pocket of fans who think this is all just viral marketing for Iggy Azella's new single that came out today called "Team" where she boasts "baby I got me, and that's all I need"...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVGRN7Z7T1A  ... Timing is odd.

Even more strange, the recent news that the Nicki Minaj/Iggy Azelea beef may have been responsible for the "leak":  http://nesn.com/2016/03/report-nicki-minajs-camp-leaked-nick-young-dangelo-russell-video-to-get-back-at-iggy-azalea/

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“Somebody from Nicki Minaj’s camp, a source, got the video and they sent it in,” the anonymous writer said. “And they said, ‘Here put this out because Iggy want to talk mess about Nicki Minaj, put this out and let her know what her fiancé is doing.’ … It had nothing to do with the basketball players.”

Dumb.   
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Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #137 on: April 01, 2016, 01:11:32 AM »

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Ok. Whoa. Did not expect this.
They suggest it would take Marcus Smart and a pick.  I think it would have to be a pretty good pick.  Two years of minimal improvement hurt a prospects' trade value.  If Smart doesn't start showing offensive progress soon, his trade value will plummet. 

Russell, on the other hand, shows many signs of being a star in this league some day.  I'd gladly trade Smart and a pick for him.

Still, I think the Lakers are better off just trading/cutting everyone else and keeping Russell.

Lol this is exactly what I am talking about.

Kid is juvenile, immature, and foolish, having alienated himself from his teammates in just his first season, and you want him over a guy known for grit, toughness, and resolve, and while having a rough offensive stretch, is still makes winning plays over and over again.

Seriously, it gets really old seeing you defend guys like Okafore and Russel, while dogging on celtics players all the time.

First it was that Randle is way better than Smart, then it was Brooklyn will be a playoff contender, then it was how awesome Oakfor and Russell are when they have been terrible NBA rookies, when off court antics are considered  (which Danny clearly considers ).

Why?

I get different opinions, but you, in all honesty do not come off like you root for the celtics.

I am not saying you dont, or are a bad fan, or anything like that, but if someone read your posts, and didn't see your username, they could very easily assume you root for someone other than the celtics.

Is Russell immature?  Sure.  He just turned 20 years old.  He's a kid.  At times this season, it's been clear he hates playing on the Lakers.  He hates his coach... so much so that one of his teammates was overheard whispering "don't say anything crazy" when Russell asked about Byron Scott in an interview.  This has to be a miserable season for him.   Is it wrong to videotape your teammate and allow it to leak online?  Sure.  Do I give him a pass on it?  Yup.  Talent, baby.   Russell has undeniable talent.  I was a fan of him before the draft and I've been a fan of what I've seen of him as a 19 year old.  Clearly he has a way to go, but I'm a fan of what I see.   He can be special.  To me, it looks like he'll end up a Kyrie Irving-level player... that is, if his career isn't over after videotaping some cheating scrub of a journeyman. 


Since the all-star break he's averaged 16 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 1.2 steal with 42%/41%/76% shooting in just 28 minutes... which is great for a player his age playing that position.   Those shooting percentages will likely jump (guys like LeBron and Durant shot around 40% as rookies).   I was willing to bet on Russell before the draft and I still am... regardless of his twitter mistake.

Was his behavior immature?  Yes.   For the record, you're wrong about how I look at the Celtic players.  I'm generally pretty reasonable.  I've given plenty of them props this year.  I've had many praising posts this year alone about Kelly Olynyk, Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley and others.  I give them props when they deserve it.  People gloss over those, because of my reputation here.   Jared Sullinger is a great example.  I was one of the only people defending him this Summer.  I pointed out his stats pre-injury were pretty outstanding.  I pointed out that his per numbers in the playoffs were actually pretty solid.  I wasn't willing to say his career was over like some of the folks here.  I didn't see him as a long-term part of this team's future (still don't), but I wasn't going to ignore his talent because of his behavior.

Has Sully done some immature things in the past?  Sure.  I gave him a pass for the domestic violence stuff, the showing up late/missing practices, the inability to keep his weight in check.  Sully showed all the immaturity of a D'Angelo Russell, but was on a less volatile team with more competent management, ownership and coaching.  Who knows what kind of antics Sully would have had on a circus of a team like the Lakers.   But yeah, I gave him a pass.

As for Smart, I've repeatedly given him the benefit of the doubt.  Up until very recently, I remained steadfast in my belief that he was THE most valuable asset on this team.  A month ago I polled this forum on whether they would hypothetically trade Smart for the Suns unprotected pick... 85% of this forum, MYSELF INCLUDED, homerishly voted that they wouldn't trade him for the pick.  More recently, I wrote an extensive post about my feelings about Smart:     
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=83549.msg2054189#msg2054189 

In short, I'm still hopefully he'll make a leap, but I can't pretend like I'm not disappointed in his offensive play thus far.   And let's just get this out of the way... Would I give Smart a pass if he displayed the same immaturity of D'Angelo Russell?  Yes.  I would ... and I HAVE.   Smart is two years older than D'Angelo Russell.   Let's go back in time two years to see how Marcus Smart was behaving as a 20 year old.   I wonder if he was pulling any kind of immature antics?  Hmm...  Let's hop in the time machine.   Oh... what's this?   Marcus Smart physically assaulting a fan on National television?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5sGdUIC-X8

I never at any point held that incident against Smart.  Actually, I'm pretty sure if someone dug through the ol LarBrd33 archives you'd find some pre-draft posts from me glossing over the incident and suggesting that it was just a sign of his competitiveness.   Yes, I give young Celtic players the same leeway I do opposing young guys I want us to trade for.

And for the record, it's CSNNE who wrote the article suggesting a possible Russell for Smart + picks trade.  They were just jumping on the scandal to get some clicks from Celtics fans, but I'm supportive of their hypothetical.  I think we'd need to include a pretty substantial 1st rounder along with Smart to get the Lakers talking, though.
So apparently Nick Young and Russell had been participating in a prank war all season.  Young taped Russell flirting with some playboy models and posted it on his social media to embarrass him recently.   Russell apparently took this video and private messaged it to Nick Young.  Russell himself claims he doesn't know how it got out and it sounds like the consensus is that his account was hacked... but maybe it was just a prank war gone bad.   

FWIW, there's also a small pocket of fans who think this is all just viral marketing for Iggy Azella's new single that came out today called "Team" where she boasts "baby I got me, and that's all I need"...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVGRN7Z7T1A  ... Timing is odd.

Even more strange, the recent news that the Nicki Minaj/Iggy Azelea beef may have been responsible for the "leak":  http://nesn.com/2016/03/report-nicki-minajs-camp-leaked-nick-young-dangelo-russell-video-to-get-back-at-iggy-azalea/

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“Somebody from Nicki Minaj’s camp, a source, got the video and they sent it in,” the anonymous writer said. “And they said, ‘Here put this out because Iggy want to talk mess about Nicki Minaj, put this out and let her know what her fiancé is doing.’ … It had nothing to do with the basketball players.”

Dumb.

TBH, I don't know why you're getting attacked on this board. Yes, Russell is a loser and immature. This isn't the first report about his immaturity. Also, he has a big ego. So there is that. However, I would offer up IT for him. That's how good I think he has been and will be moving forward. It's an insult to him when people even put Smart on the same sentence.

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #138 on: April 01, 2016, 02:49:17 AM »

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The last phrase is well over the top, but the rest of the article makes some good points.

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-lakers-can-kindly-shove-their-bro-code/

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #139 on: April 01, 2016, 02:56:41 AM »

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The last phrase is well over the top, but the rest of the article makes some good points.

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-lakers-can-kindly-shove-their-bro-code/
Not to mention the kid supposedly didn't even leak out the video.  He was involved in a prank war with Nick young (fyi, Young has been involved in prank wars with players going all the way back to the Gilbert Arenas era).  Young had posted video of Russell flirting with playboy models to embarrass him.  Russell apparently took this video and snapchatted it (probably to people in their circle familiar with this prank war).   According to the site that posted the video, they received it from Nicky Minaj's people - payback for Iggy Azalea recently suggesting Nicky Minaj doesn't write her own lyrics.   This whole thing is stupid and juvenile on so many levels.   But now fans are booing D'Angelo Russell over a freakin bro code?    It's insane.

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #140 on: April 01, 2016, 07:13:04 AM »

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It was immature to video the guy, but I think it is very telling of us as a society, that we are more upset with the guy who taped, than the guy who was cheating on his fiance.

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« Reply #141 on: April 01, 2016, 07:29:19 AM »

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Ok. Whoa. Did not expect this.
They suggest it would take Marcus Smart and a pick.  I think it would have to be a pretty good pick.  Two years of minimal improvement hurt a prospects' trade value.  If Smart doesn't start showing offensive progress soon, his trade value will plummet. 

Russell, on the other hand, shows many signs of being a star in this league some day.  I'd gladly trade Smart and a pick for him.

Still, I think the Lakers are better off just trading/cutting everyone else and keeping Russell.

Lol this is exactly what I am talking about.

Kid is juvenile, immature, and foolish, having alienated himself from his teammates in just his first season, and you want him over a guy known for grit, toughness, and resolve, and while having a rough offensive stretch, is still makes winning plays over and over again.

Seriously, it gets really old seeing you defend guys like Okafore and Russel, while dogging on celtics players all the time.

First it was that Randle is way better than Smart, then it was Brooklyn will be a playoff contender, then it was how awesome Oakfor and Russell are when they have been terrible NBA rookies, when off court antics are considered  (which Danny clearly considers ).

Why?

I get different opinions, but you, in all honesty do not come off like you root for the celtics.

I am not saying you dont, or are a bad fan, or anything like that, but if someone read your posts, and didn't see your username, they could very easily assume you root for someone other than the celtics.

Yeah I'm just like a lot of the people here.  I'm 25.  I was obsessed with Larry Bird when I was younger, but the total number of Bird basketball cards was probably greater than the total number of Bird games I had watched.   I remember seeing him dunk in an allstar game.  And my only two truly vivid memories of watching him play was a double overtime game against Portland and the famous Indiana playoff game where he hit his head on the floor and came storming back to win the game for us.   I use to live in Florida.  My dad would actually pull me out of my class early so I could go to the local sportsbar and watch the playoff games with him.

I also remember the game when Reggie Lewis collapsed mid court... and I was visiting Boston the day the headline read "Lewis Dead".

I've always had tons of celtic-related posters, figurines, basketball cards and clothing, but it was hard to follow team in the early 90s when I lived in Florida/Seattle. I really didn't have a chance to get deep into my Celtic obsession until Pitino came on board.  It also happened to be right around when I first had access to the internet in 96/97.  That changed things for sportsfans.  Not only could I easily follow box scores, but ever since day 1 of the Pitino era I've been able to either listen to the radio broadcast of the games online or watch the games via NBA League Pass.  I've pretty much listened to or watched every game since then. 

This entire season has been surreal.  If we are able to win one of the next 2 games I might just break down in tears.

I was really disappointed they didn't do a quick interview with Ainge at the celebration podium.  I wanted to hear the fans chanting "DANNY!  DANNY!  DANNY!".... with all the crap this guy got over the years he really deserved an outpouring of support.  Maybe at the parade?  In my mind, he deserves credit more than anyone on the team.  The architect did an incredible job putting this miracle team together.  I'll be forever grateful of Danny Ainge. He's a freakin hero in my book. Glad to see KG and Pierce rubbing his head and joining with him in the celebration, but I felt like there should be a massive group of critics and sports writers lining up to kiss Ainge's butt after this championship.

What now!?!?!! ! 

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!  EAT THAT CROW!!!! EAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm too young to remember the other ones... so that was definitely the greatest sports season of my life.  Just amazing considering where we were a year ago.  This franchise was pretty much dead when the lotto said #5.  This is totally unthinkable at that point.  People were pretty much throwing in the towel.

Those are really old quotes. Sounds like a frontrunner type of "fan".

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #142 on: April 01, 2016, 08:29:48 AM »

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It was immature to video the guy, but I think it is very telling of us as a society, that we are more upset with the guy who taped, than the guy who was cheating on his fiance.

Why would anyone be upset with Nick Young for who he has sex with unless you have some personal connection with him?  Where he puts his private parts couldn't possibly be less of a concern to me unless it is with someone I know, a child, or against someone's will.  What possible reason could you have to care about Swaggy P's sex life?

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« Reply #143 on: April 01, 2016, 08:50:43 AM »

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It was immature to video the guy, but I think it is very telling of us as a society, that we are more upset with the guy who taped, than the guy who was cheating on his fiance.

Your not the first person to say this.

But I don't necessarily agree. I'm not sure anyone is excusing what Nick Young apparently has done. But what Nick Young may have done, while horrible, is not my business. I don't care what someone else does as long as it doesn't affect me, or is illegal. Neither of those have any relevance here.

And I'm certainly not mad at Russell, neither of the criteria above apply here either. But, despite what Young did being worse morally, Russell did something that is a breach of trust, which in a team environment is really bad.

It's all about trust, plain and simple, and how can you trust someone who did what Russell did? It's easy for the players to still trust Young, what he did has no affect on the team. What Russell did does.

I mean, if Russell did this out some idea that he was doing right by Iggy Azalea, he would have done it in private. He was trying to make someone look foolish, and succeeded more than he ever thought he would. 

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #144 on: April 01, 2016, 09:16:22 AM »

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It was immature to video the guy, but I think it is very telling of us as a society, that we are more upset with the guy who taped, than the guy who was cheating on his fiance.

Your not the first person to say this.

But I don't necessarily agree. I'm not sure anyone is excusing what Nick Young apparently has done. But what Nick Young may have done, while horrible, is not my business. I don't care what someone else does as long as it doesn't affect me, or is illegal. Neither of those have any relevance here.

And I'm certainly not mad at Russell, neither of the criteria above apply here either. But, despite what Young did being worse morally, Russell did something that is a breach of trust, which in a team environment is really bad.

It's all about trust, plain and simple, and how can you trust someone who did what Russell did? It's easy for the players to still trust Young, what he did has no affect on the team. What Russell did does.

I mean, if Russell did this out some idea that he was doing right by Iggy Azalea, he would have done it in private. He was trying to make someone look foolish, and succeeded more than he ever thought he would.
Is it really a breach of trust when you tell you him recorded him just after he said the things?  Russell clearly told Young that he had just recorded the conversation as it is on the actual video.  If it was really such a big deal for Young he would have had Russell delete it right then, but you see Young has been doing this same type of thing for years and had been doing it to Russell this year.  Young didn't care he was recorded or it would have been deleted.  Hard to say it was a breach of trust under that context.
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Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #145 on: April 01, 2016, 09:26:31 AM »

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this is great ,just shows what tanking does to an organization and what the celts have-the more negitice publicity the better for celts--kobe sacrificed their whole season for a legacy trip around NBA
Dirk is having a great season not embarassing his team and francise

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #146 on: April 01, 2016, 10:41:28 AM »

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First of all, let's just make this clear because it appears none of you have used Snapchat. THAT WAS NOT A SNAPCHAT VIDEO. He is lying. Snapchat videos have a clock determining the seconds of the video in the right corner. And it was too long to be a Snapchat video.

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #147 on: April 01, 2016, 10:46:23 AM »

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First of all, let's just make this clear because it appears none of you have used Snapchat. THAT WAS NOT A SNAPCHAT VIDEO. He is lying. Snapchat videos have a clock determining the seconds of the video in the right corner. And it was too long to be a Snapchat video.
I don't think he ever said it was a snapchat video
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Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #148 on: April 01, 2016, 10:46:32 AM »

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Don't condone what Young or Russell have done but Iggy Azalea is a reprehensible fake so won't pretend I feel sympathy for any party. Couldn't have happened to 3 bigger schmucks.

Yup. Russell is wrong for squealing, Young is wrong for cheating and Iggy Azalea is wrong for making 'music' that makes me envy the deaf.

Re: DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift
« Reply #149 on: April 01, 2016, 10:51:42 AM »

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First of all, let's just make this clear because it appears none of you have used Snapchat. THAT WAS NOT A SNAPCHAT VIDEO. He is lying. Snapchat videos have a clock determining the seconds of the video in the right corner. And it was too long to be a Snapchat video.
I don't think he ever said it was a snapchat video

Yeah but that has been the report coming from his camp. You are right he hasn't said anything.