DeAngelo Russell secretly films Nick Young - creates huge rift

[celticsclay]

LOL at anyone buying the old "I was hacked" story.  One of the funnier "I was hacked" since the Ray Allen sex tweet.

"This account was hacked by a low level staffer. This video leak does not represent Mr. Russel's true character and the staffer has since been let go for this grave error in judgement."

[LarBrd33]

The last phrase is well over the top, but the rest of the article makes some good points.

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-lakers-can-kindly-shove-their-bro-code/

Not to mention the kid supposedly didn't even leak out the video.  He was involved in a prank war with Nick young (fyi, Young has been involved in prank wars with players going all the way back to the Gilbert Arenas era).  Young had posted video of Russell flirting with playboy models to embarrass him.  Russell apparently took this video and snapchatted it (probably to people in their circle familiar with this prank war).   According to the site that posted the video, they received it from Nicky Minaj's people - payback for Iggy Azalea recently suggesting Nicky Minaj doesn't write her own lyrics.   This whole thing is stupid and juvenile on so many levels.   But now fans are booing D'Angelo Russell over a freakin bro code?    It's insane.

LOL do you really believe he was "hacked"?

That is the go to line for just about every social media flub.

Russel wasn't hacked, he is just an idiot, and is trying to find an excuse instead of taking blame.

As I explained on the previous page, his instagram account was indeed hacked on March 22nd:  https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/4bfig2/dangelo_russels_instagram_has_been_hacked_with/  ... all the content was replaced with pics of a guy advertising his mix tape. 

If that account was compromised, it likely means his other passwords were out there. 

These guys get targeted, often because of their high profile relationships.   

[celticsclay]

The last phrase is well over the top, but the rest of the article makes some good points.

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-lakers-can-kindly-shove-their-bro-code/

Not to mention the kid supposedly didn't even leak out the video.  He was involved in a prank war with Nick young (fyi, Young has been involved in prank wars with players going all the way back to the Gilbert Arenas era).  Young had posted video of Russell flirting with playboy models to embarrass him.  Russell apparently took this video and snapchatted it (probably to people in their circle familiar with this prank war).   According to the site that posted the video, they received it from Nicky Minaj's people - payback for Iggy Azalea recently suggesting Nicky Minaj doesn't write her own lyrics.   This whole thing is stupid and juvenile on so many levels.   But now fans are booing D'Angelo Russell over a freakin bro code?    It's insane.

LOL do you really believe he was "hacked"?

That is the go to line for just about every social media flub.

Russel wasn't hacked, he is just an idiot, and is trying to find an excuse instead of taking blame.

As I explained on the previous page, his instagram account was indeed hacked on March 22nd:  https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/4bfig2/dangelo_russels_instagram_has_been_hacked_with/  ... all the content was replaced with pics of a guy advertising his mix tape. 

If that account was compromised, it likely means his other passwords were out there. 

These guys get targeted, often because of their high profile relationships.

Unfortunately I think you are the only one buying that story. He is now giving Young space because he can't force their friendships and says he wouldn't physically back down if Young came after him.

http://espn.go.com/losangeles/nba/story/_/id/15113855/dangelo-russell-los-angeles-lakers-says-situation-linger-nick-young-closure

If only you were in the locker room larbrd, you could fix this all!
"Russell, though, said he wouldn't back down if teammates physically confronted him.

"I would get physical back," he said. "It's a point where you try to solve it the right way with words, but if we're at the point where there's a sign of disrespect or violence is involved, sometimes you have to let people feel you and let people know, if you disrespect this guy, you know you have to bring it."

[KGs Knee]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic. Then again, apparently the majority of our society is filled with idiots who put personal stuff on social media, allowing themselves to be hacked. If you're a celebrity and you put this stuff out there, it's your fault if you get hacked and something leaks you are embarrassed about.

It's willful negligence if you put a video like this out there to even be hacked.

There's nothing here D'Lo did that is defensible. It's kind of amazing anyone in their right mind would try to defend him.

[celticsclay]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic. Then again, apparently the majority of our society is filled with idiots who put personal stuff on social media, allowing themselves to be hacked. If you're a celebrity and you put this stuff out there, it's your fault if you get hacked and something leaks you are embarrassed about.

It's willful negligence if you put a video like this out there to even be hacked.

There's nothing here D'Lo did that is defensible. It's kind of amazing anyone in their right mind would try to defend him.

wait who is in their right mind here.... 

[Snakehead]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic. Then again, apparently the majority of our society is filled with idiots who put personal stuff on social media, allowing themselves to be hacked. If you're a celebrity and you put this stuff out there, it's your fault if you get hacked and something leaks you are embarrassed about.

It's willful negligence if you put a video like this out there to even be hacked.

There's nothing here D'Lo did that is defensible. It's kind of amazing anyone in their right mind would try to defend him.

Agreed.

But even still, can't undersell just how sketchy just recording someone without them knowing is.  Even if you never intended to "leak" it. 

What does "leak" it even mean, really?  So we think that Russell either was A) recording this absolutely for himself and no one else (WEIRD) or B) recording this to share with a small group, which is... okay?  Is that what is being argued?  This is an invasion of privacy and really inappropriate no matter what.

[Eddie20]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic. Then again, apparently the majority of our society is filled with idiots who put personal stuff on social media, allowing themselves to be hacked. If you're a celebrity and you put this stuff out there, it's your fault if you get hacked and something leaks you are embarrassed about.

It's willful negligence if you put a video like this out there to even be hacked.

There's nothing here D'Lo did that is defensible. It's kind of amazing anyone in their right mind would try to defend him.

wait who is in their right mind here.... 

Don't you know that Russell could acknowledge that he in fact leaked the video and a certain someone would come to his defense and claim that perhaps he was coerced into saying it, under the pretense that "people have been coerced before".

[LarBrd33]

The last phrase is well over the top, but the rest of the article makes some good points.

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-lakers-can-kindly-shove-their-bro-code/

Not to mention the kid supposedly didn't even leak out the video.  He was involved in a prank war with Nick young (fyi, Young has been involved in prank wars with players going all the way back to the Gilbert Arenas era).  Young had posted video of Russell flirting with playboy models to embarrass him.  Russell apparently took this video and snapchatted it (probably to people in their circle familiar with this prank war).   According to the site that posted the video, they received it from Nicky Minaj's people - payback for Iggy Azalea recently suggesting Nicky Minaj doesn't write her own lyrics.   This whole thing is stupid and juvenile on so many levels.   But now fans are booing D'Angelo Russell over a freakin bro code?    It's insane.

LOL do you really believe he was "hacked"?

That is the go to line for just about every social media flub.

Russel wasn't hacked, he is just an idiot, and is trying to find an excuse instead of taking blame.

As I explained on the previous page, his instagram account was indeed hacked on March 22nd:  https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/4bfig2/dangelo_russels_instagram_has_been_hacked_with/  ... all the content was replaced with pics of a guy advertising his mix tape. 

If that account was compromised, it likely means his other passwords were out there. 

These guys get targeted, often because of their high profile relationships.

Unfortunately I think you are the only one buying that story. He is now giving Young space because he can't force their friendships and says he wouldn't physically back down if Young came after him.

http://espn.go.com/losangeles/nba/story/_/id/15113855/dangelo-russell-los-angeles-lakers-says-situation-linger-nick-young-closure

If only you were in the locker room larbrd, you could fix this all!
"Russell, though, said he wouldn't back down if teammates physically confronted him.

"I would get physical back," he said. "It's a point where you try to solve it the right way with words, but if we're at the point where there's a sign of disrespect or violence is involved, sometimes you have to let people feel you and let people know, if you disrespect this guy, you know you have to bring it."

Well then I agree with D'Angelo.  He's basically that franchise now.  If they continue to disrespect him, they can start looking for a new team, because that crap isn't going to fly on D'Angelo's watch.

[LarBrd33]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic.

Just so you understand... when videos like this (or the hundreds of naked pictures of actresses like Jennifer Lawrence) leak out onto the internet... it isn't because the athlete/actress posted it on Facebook or shared it privately on instagram.  Usually, there's some kind of exploit on their device (or the device of the guy they are snap chatting pics to) that allows someone to take the content.   If we're going to accept the narrative that D'Angelo didn't send this off to the "FAMEOLOUS.com" website himself and it was actually stolen, then there's really no telling exactly how that leaked out.   In many instances during that "fappening" scandal, people had their iCloud photo backup automatically turned on and weren't at all aware of it.   So every photo they took was being backed up online and remained there even after they deleted them from their device.   In other instances, people had their iTunes account compromised and people were able to just log into the "Messages" app from their computer... and see all photos/videos/text messages in real-time.  For instance, I'm able to access my text messages from my iMac via the "messages" app... and there's been instances where I've deleted entire conversation threads (because my freakin iphone is always out of storage), and see the entire message thread (including all photos and videos) remain visible on my iMac.   That's concerning, because it means anyone who can figure out my iTunes login/password can sit and watch as I have private conversations with friends and family.   

Another possible way is an exploit on an app like snapchat itself.   Recently, thousands of private photos/videos from countless individuals leaked out onto the internet.  A massive archive of them were being shared on torrent sites.   It was messed up.  Even more messed up when you realize that a lot of the people in the photos were under 18 (teenagers snapchatting each other).  I haven't researched that one too closely so I'm not exactly sure how that breach happened, but the point is there's numerous ways that video could have gone out.

 In the case of D'Angelo Russell... where it's actually been proven his instagram account was compromised 10 days ago, it could be as simple as his password being something stupid like "dmoney1"... or someone obtaining it via a phishing e-mail... Another really easy way is to answer "Lost password" questions.  These guys are public figures.  If the questions are something like, "When/where were you born" or "what's your mother's maiden name", it wouldn't be at all hard to find that information for a celebrity.  If these "hackers" can gain access to his e-mail account, they can very easily gain access to the majority of his other passwords (facebook, instagram, twitter, itunes, etc), because they can just go to those sites, claim their password "lost", and have a password reset sent to the e-mail account. 

HOnestly, when they present this as some "hacker" gaining access to his device it makes it sound more outlandish than it really is.  Usually these aren't some brilliant genius coders sitting up to the wee hours of the night finding there way past digital firewalls.  Usually it's just some 14 year old pervert trying to find Kendall Jenner nudes and answering "lost password" questions that are way too easy to answer.  Then when they gain access to someone's e-mail account, they can gain access to everything.  My crazy Aunt literally got into my mother's facebook account using this exact method and the both of them are basically computer illiterate. 

So yes, I think it's pretty plausible that this video leaked out unintentionally.  Maybe Russell just took the video (in response to Nick Young taking photos of Russell with playboy models), shared it out with their network of friends (or perhaps even just directly to Nick Young himself), and the video got acquired by someone who wanted to embarrass Iggy Azalea. 

[Eddie20]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic.

Just so you understand... when videos like this (or the hundreds of naked pictures of actresses like Jennifer Lawrence) leak out onto the internet... it isn't because the athlete/actress posted it on Facebook or shared it privately on instagram.  Usually, there's some kind of exploit on their device (or the device of the guy they are snap chatting pics to) that allows someone to take the content.   If we're going to accept the narrative that D'Angelo didn't send this off to the "FAMEOLOUS.com" website himself and it was actually stolen, then there's really no telling exactly how that leaked out.   In many instances during that "fappening" scandal, people had their iCloud photo backup automatically turned on and weren't at all aware of it.   So every photo they took was being backed up online and remained there even after they deleted them from their device.   In other instances, people had their iTunes account compromised and people were able to just log into the "Messages" app from their computer... and see all photos/videos/text messages in real-time.  For instance, I'm able to access my text messages from my iMac via the "messages" app... and there's been instances where I've deleted entire conversation threads (because my freakin iphone is always out of storage), and see the entire message thread (including all photos and videos) remain visible on my iMac.   That's concerning, because it means anyone who can figure out my iTunes login/password can sit and watch as I have private conversations with friends and family.   

Another possible way is an exploit on an app like snapchat itself.   Recently, thousands of private photos/videos from countless individuals leaked out onto the internet.  A massive archive of them were being shared on torrent sites.   It was messed up.  Even more messed up when you realize that a lot of the people in the photos were under 18 (teenagers snapchatting each other).  I haven't researched that one too closely so I'm not exactly sure how that breach happened, but the point is there's numerous ways that video could have gone out.

 In the case of D'Angelo Russell... where it's actually been proven his instagram account was compromised 10 days ago, it could be as simple as his password being something stupid like "dmoney1"... or someone obtaining it via a phishing e-mail... Another really easy way is to answer "Lost password" questions.  These guys are public figures.  If the questions are something like, "When/where were you born" or "what's your mother's maiden name", it wouldn't be at all hard to find that information for a celebrity.  If these "hackers" can gain access to his e-mail account, they can very easily gain access to the majority of his other passwords (facebook, instagram, twitter, itunes, etc), because they can just go to those sites, claim their password "lost", and have a password reset sent to the e-mail account. 

HOnestly, when they present this as some "hacker" gaining access to his device it makes it sound more outlandish than it really is.  Usually these aren't some brilliant genius coders sitting up to the wee hours of the night finding there way past digital firewalls.  Usually it's just some 14 year old pervert trying to find Kendall Jenner nudes and answering "lost password" questions that are way too easy to answer.  Then when they gain access to someone's e-mail account, they can gain access to everything.  My crazy Aunt literally got into my mother's facebook account using this exact method and the both of them are basically computer illiterate. 

So yes, I think it's pretty plausible that this video leaked out unintentionally.  Maybe Russell just took the video (in response to Nick Young taking photos of Russell with playboy models), shared it out with their network of friends (or perhaps even just directly to Nick Young himself), and the video got acquired by someone who wanted to embarrass Iggy Azalea.

Jim Garrison In JFK
The FBI says they can prove it through physics in a nuclear laboratory. Of course they can prove it. Theoretical physics can also prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy! But use your eyes, your common sense.

[Neurotic Guy]

The reason that using "common sense" is an absurd assumption when it comes to conclusions about DeAngelo Russell is because in today's minute to minute, snippet-based media, we draw "common sense" conclusions based on incomplete and possibly inaccurate evidence.  It happens all the time.  DeAngelo Russell is an "idiot", "immature", a "punk", a "fool", an "****", etc. according to people on this blog --  as if a singular incident defines a human being's character, value system, and intelligence.  Thank goodness I'm not judged for singular acts of stupidity I engaged in during my lifetime (especially when I was 20 or younger). 

It sounds like Russell did something that at worst was calculated and evil, and at best was an error in judgment.  I resist drawing conclusions about him (or his actions) because I realize that I have NO IDEA who he is.  But if I had to use my common sense about who he is, I'd probably conclude that, like most people, he is complex -- and the whole of who he is can't be boiled down to a few incidents that I heard about reported by strangers.   

[LarBrd33]

Seriously, who cares that he was possibly hacked. The simple fact the video even existed is scummy.

And saving a video like this to a social media account is idiotic.

Just so you understand... when videos like this (or the hundreds of naked pictures of actresses like Jennifer Lawrence) leak out onto the internet... it isn't because the athlete/actress posted it on Facebook or shared it privately on instagram.  Usually, there's some kind of exploit on their device (or the device of the guy they are snap chatting pics to) that allows someone to take the content.   If we're going to accept the narrative that D'Angelo didn't send this off to the "FAMEOLOUS.com" website himself and it was actually stolen, then there's really no telling exactly how that leaked out.   In many instances during that "fappening" scandal, people had their iCloud photo backup automatically turned on and weren't at all aware of it.   So every photo they took was being backed up online and remained there even after they deleted them from their device.   In other instances, people had their iTunes account compromised and people were able to just log into the "Messages" app from their computer... and see all photos/videos/text messages in real-time.  For instance, I'm able to access my text messages from my iMac via the "messages" app... and there's been instances where I've deleted entire conversation threads (because my freakin iphone is always out of storage), and see the entire message thread (including all photos and videos) remain visible on my iMac.   That's concerning, because it means anyone who can figure out my iTunes login/password can sit and watch as I have private conversations with friends and family.   

Another possible way is an exploit on an app like snapchat itself.   Recently, thousands of private photos/videos from countless individuals leaked out onto the internet.  A massive archive of them were being shared on torrent sites.   It was messed up.  Even more messed up when you realize that a lot of the people in the photos were under 18 (teenagers snapchatting each other).  I haven't researched that one too closely so I'm not exactly sure how that breach happened, but the point is there's numerous ways that video could have gone out.

 In the case of D'Angelo Russell... where it's actually been proven his instagram account was compromised 10 days ago, it could be as simple as his password being something stupid like "dmoney1"... or someone obtaining it via a phishing e-mail... Another really easy way is to answer "Lost password" questions.  These guys are public figures.  If the questions are something like, "When/where were you born" or "what's your mother's maiden name", it wouldn't be at all hard to find that information for a celebrity.  If these "hackers" can gain access to his e-mail account, they can very easily gain access to the majority of his other passwords (facebook, instagram, twitter, itunes, etc), because they can just go to those sites, claim their password "lost", and have a password reset sent to the e-mail account. 

HOnestly, when they present this as some "hacker" gaining access to his device it makes it sound more outlandish than it really is.  Usually these aren't some brilliant genius coders sitting up to the wee hours of the night finding there way past digital firewalls.  Usually it's just some 14 year old pervert trying to find Kendall Jenner nudes and answering "lost password" questions that are way too easy to answer.  Then when they gain access to someone's e-mail account, they can gain access to everything.  My crazy Aunt literally got into my mother's facebook account using this exact method and the both of them are basically computer illiterate. 

So yes, I think it's pretty plausible that this video leaked out unintentionally.  Maybe Russell just took the video (in response to Nick Young taking photos of Russell with playboy models), shared it out with their network of friends (or perhaps even just directly to Nick Young himself), and the video got acquired by someone who wanted to embarrass Iggy Azalea.

Jim Garrison In JFK
The FBI says they can prove it through physics in a nuclear laboratory. Of course they can prove it. Theoretical physics can also prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy! But use your eyes, your common sense.

Again, what are you suggesting common sense is here?... that he pretended to have his instagram account hacked on March 22nd so that he could advertise some random guy's mix tape and use it as a cover for some prank he planned on pulling 8 days later?   Is it common sense that he took this video of Nick Young and personally leaked it out to that website?   Is that the common sense approach here? 

Nah.   I think the idea that it leaked out is completely plausible.  It happens to a ton of celebrities these days.   Should Nick Young forgive D'Angelo for this and move on?  Yeah maybe.  Will he?  Who knows... didn't he play for that WIzards team that pulled guns on each other over a card game?  Some of these guys aren't very level-headed. 

What I do know is that Nick Young is a scrub who will likely be out of the league in a couple years... and he and the rest of those bums better shape up and start showing D'Angelo the respect their future franchise player deserves... or they best put their Los Angeles homes on the market. 

[LarBrd33]

The reason that using "common sense" is an absurd assumption when it comes to conclusions about DeAngelo Russell is because in today's minute to minute, snippet-based media, we draw "common sense" conclusions based on incomplete and possibly inaccurate evidence.  It happens all the time.  DeAngelo Russell is an "idiot", "immature", a "punk", a "fool", an "****", etc. according to people on this blog --  as if a singular incident defines a human being's character, value system, and intelligence.  Thank goodness I'm not judged for singular acts of stupidity I engaged in during my lifetime (especially when I was 20 or younger). 

It sounds like Russell did something that at worst was calculated and evil, and at best was an error in judgment.

At best, it was heroic.  Nick Young is a two-timing scumbag who shoots 33% for a bottomfeeder basketball team.  The women of the world need more D'Angelo Russels in their corner. 

[Snakehead]

The reason that using "common sense" is an absurd assumption when it comes to conclusions about DeAngelo Russell is because in today's minute to minute, snippet-based media, we draw "common sense" conclusions based on incomplete and possibly inaccurate evidence.  It happens all the time.  DeAngelo Russell is an "idiot", "immature", a "punk", a "fool", an "****", etc. according to people on this blog --  as if a singular incident defines a human being's character, value system, and intelligence.  Thank goodness I'm not judged for singular acts of stupidity I engaged in during my lifetime (especially when I was 20 or younger). 

It sounds like Russell did something that at worst was calculated and evil, and at best was an error in judgment.  I resist drawing conclusions about him (or his actions) because I realize that I have NO IDEA who he is.  But if I had to use my common sense about who he is, I'd probably conclude that, like most people, he is complex -- and the whole of who he is can't be boiled down to a few incidents that I heard about reported by strangers.

To be clear I am not judging his whole character but this was a shady movie, period.  I don't totally want to be part of that sort of online pile on you are talking about but to me this is very cut and dry.

[SHAQATTACK]

Maybe he wants to be movie director instead of a basketball player ...