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The Marquese Chriss Dilemma
« on: March 26, 2016, 12:17:01 PM »

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Many of us were shocked by Chad Ford's recent mock draft having us select Marquese Chriss with the Brooklyn pick. The General reaction from most was a mix of disbelief, confusion, annoyance and anger but after doing some googling it's possible that Ford might be on to something.

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Breakdown
Despite being raw, Chriss possesses the type of bounce that makes him a match up problem at any level. At 6'9, 220 Chriss has excellent size for the PF position and a strong faceup game complimented by solid footwork and silky smooth finishes. More of an athlete than a player at this point however, while he has the capability to physically dominate his match up he can also bullied by more physical post players and has a tendency to pick up cheap fouls.

Why he fits with us:
The Washington Connection. Marquese Chriss developed some strong chemistry with fellow first round prospect Dejounte Murray this year and it goes to show the kind of pedigree that prospects from a school like Washington can bring. Nate Robinson, Martell Webster, Spencer Hawes, Isaiah Thomas, Terrence Ross and Tony Wroten Jr. may be flawed in certain ways but they've carved out nice careers for themselves and Chriss looks to be no different. Assuming The Celttics run some of IT's favorite plays it's highly possible that Chriss will be able to come in and make an immediate impact running the Pick and Roll with Isaiah.

Conclusion:

Marquese Chriss is going to make the job of an NBA Gm picking at the top of the lottery much more difficult. He's got the right blend of production and upside to warrant a lotto pick despite remaining relatively under the radar for most of this year. While I think it's possible for him to be taken high, my official prediction is that he'll be making some team picking in the 10-13 range very happy.

Footage:
Chriss had himself a game against Long Beach State in the NIT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVdSqMQr-5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NfG9XWz3R0
Draft Express breakdown of his match-up against Ivan Rabb

Further Reading:
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/nba-executive-evaluates-dejounte-murray-and-marquese-chriss-pro-potential/

What do you think? Next Amare Stodemire? Next Hakim Warrick? Somewhere in between?
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Re: The Marquese Chriss Dilemma
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 01:15:07 PM »

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I like the potential of Chriss but I would not take him ahead of Bender, Poeltl or Murray. I can see him working his way onto the same prospect level as raw but statistically productive lottery prospects like Brown and Rabb
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 01:45:14 PM »

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Many of us were shocked by Chad Ford's recent mock draft having us select Marquese Chriss with the Brooklyn pick.

What do you think? Next Amare Stodemire? Next Hakim Warrick? Somewhere in between?

I see some Tyrus Thomas there.

Re: The Marquese Chriss Dilemma
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 01:48:46 PM »

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Many of us were shocked by Chad Ford's recent mock draft having us select Marquese Chriss with the Brooklyn pick. The General reaction from most was a mix of disbelief, confusion, annoyance and anger but after doing some googling it's possible that Ford might be on to something. Marquese Chriss is a high upside talent that is even drawing attention from Phoenix at the number 3-4 pick. ( http://arizonasports.com/story/604632/nba-draft-marquese-chriss-suns-markieff-morris-replacement/ )

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Ford is in some sort of hallucinogenic stupor, if he thinks that Ainge will reach for this guy with our Brooklyn pick. McDonough won't either with their own pick.

Now, maybe the Mavs pick, but not a snowball's chance in you know where with the Brooklyn pick.

The article referenced in the OP is talking about the late lottery pick that Phoenix acquired from Washington not Phoenix's own pick

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Chriss finds himself No. 15 in the Draft Express mock draft, just after the projected Suns pick acquired from the Wizards via the Morris trade.
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As far as the Suns are concerned while navigating a draft where sure-fire star power is lacking, reaching to select such a young, unproven player with a lottery pick doesn’t appear too risky. It would follow suit with the Devin Booker selection around the same spot last year.


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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 01:55:16 PM »

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Is it me or DA has had a lot of links to that team in general. You always hear he is interested in one of their players. Could be helping out their recruitment like BB does with Rut.
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Depends on the combine and measurements/Ind workouts

Danny has never been shy to take a risk on players like this.  High risk and high reward. Especially if they were really keen on grabbing Simmons or Ingram

At times Chris's looked just as bit as good as these two

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 02:12:00 PM »

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Top height, wingspan and reach measurement for a sf. Also already 225 pounds

 6'8.75, 210.2 lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan and 8'9.5 reach

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 02:17:44 PM »

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Is it me or DA has had a lot of links to that team in general. You always hear he is interested in one of their players. Could be helping out their recruitment like BB does with Rut.

Since McDonough worked for a few years for Ainge as his assistant GM, I'm sure that they have lots of conversations and thankfully trades like IT.

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Top height, wingspan and reach measurement for a sf. Also already 225 pounds

 6'8.75, 210.2 lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan and 8'9.5 reach
Where did you get those measurements from? The only measurements I could find were on draft express from 2014. Since he's so young it's probable he's grown since then.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2016, 02:41:27 PM »

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Top height, wingspan and reach measurement for a sf. Also already 225 pounds

 6'8.75, 210.2 lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan and 8'9.5 reach
Where did you get those measurements from? The only measurements I could find were on draft express from 2014. Since he's so young it's probable he's grown since then.

Prior to NCAA in 2014. You are right could be taller

And I meant for a PF/sf.   Either a power sf or stretch pf

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Poeltl??

Did you not see what Sabonis did to him

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Triboy,

Sabones is extremely coordinated for his size. I could see him being a late lottery pick.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 05:09:16 PM »

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Many of us were shocked by Chad Ford's recent mock draft having us select Marquese Chriss with the Brooklyn pick. The General reaction from most was a mix of disbelief, confusion, annoyance and anger but after doing some googling it's possible that Ford might be on to something. Marquese Chriss is a high upside talent that is even drawing attention from Phoenix at the number 3-4 pick. ( http://arizonasports.com/story/604632/nba-draft-marquese-chriss-suns-markieff-morris-replacement/ )

Chad Ford Rank - 6
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Ford is in some sort of hallucinogenic stupor, if he thinks that Ainge will reach for this guy with our Brooklyn pick. McDonough won't either with their own pick.

Now, maybe the Mavs pick, but not a snowball's chance in you know where with the Brooklyn pick.

The article referenced in the OP is talking about the late lottery pick that Phoenix acquired from Washington not Phoenix's own pick

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Chriss finds himself No. 15 in the Draft Express mock draft, just after the projected Suns pick acquired from the Wizards via the Morris trade.
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As far as the Suns are concerned while navigating a draft where sure-fire star power is lacking, reaching to select such a young, unproven player with a lottery pick doesn’t appear too risky. It would follow suit with the Devin Booker selection around the same spot last year.

TP your absolutely right, sorry for the mixup people. I've heard some chatter on Reddit that he's moved into some people's the top 5 so I wrongfully assumed that was the pick they were referring too.

Ammended the OP, thanks for the catch.

Re: The Marquese Chriss Dilemma
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 05:24:27 PM »

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The one thing I'll say about his potential to rise is that nobody was talking about Paul George before people started taking a step back and really looked at what he was doing at Fresno on top of his measurements.

Now the hype wasn't enough to launch PG into the top 10 but I think he's a great example of a cautionary tale that GM's are going to try to avoid. The Clippers took Al Farouq Aminu over him. That's not like Kelly vs Antetokoumpo, that's a 100% missed pick there's no justification for Aminu over George. Could see a world where Chriss gets picked over guys like Rabb, Ellenson and maybe even Bender based soley on the fact that Chriss could be head and shoulders above those players within a few years.