I can see the Celtics drafting Domantas Sabonis

[Eddie20]

This whole thread reeks of more triboy overhype of a young, unproven player. (See Mickey, Jordan)

Yes a guy who got a 4 year deal but is a 1st year rookie

In your books an early 2nd round pick should be contributing right away/dominating the competition

Get a clue and be patient

Yeah, I am pretty sure the majority of this board knows exactly who needs to get a clue when it comes to young players and what to expect out of them, and its not me.

Yes it is you

How are you expecting an early 2nd round pick to contribute right away/impact right away?

But also Mickey got a 4 year deal which is rare for a 2nd pick to receive

So yes, get a clue and be patient

Triboy, you do overvalue rookies and you do so yearly. There are numerous examples of this and it doesn't just end with Mickey. As I recall, just prior to the draft you were saying that Kaminsky had Big Al level post-up abilities with better shooting than Olynyk, while also being able to be a rim protector at a high rate. Back to Mickey, when we played Indiana earlier this year and George was going off, you said that Mickey was the only one on our team that could stop George.

[crimson_stallion]

Better to pick Sabonis with the 3rd pick or he will be gone.  Then take Skal with the Dallas pick.

There is no way you take Sabonis at #3 with the level of talent that's available in that range.  He's nowhere near that good. 

I'm not convinced he he belongs in the top 10, let alone the top 3.  Based on the mock drafts I've seen around most people out there seem to agree with me on that too.

Sabonis could be a nice energy guy to bring off the bench, or maybe if you get lucky he could develop into a solid starter.  He has a pretty low ceiling at the end of the day.  A nice pick anywhere in the 10-16 range, but you'd have to be pretty crazy to consider taking him in the top 5.

[crimson_stallion]

Rozier is getting min bc AB is down. That's it

Rozier is getting minutes because Brad believes that he is ready to contribute at the NBA level. Brad said this himself, over a month ago:

“I thought that Terry’s really improved and continued to work and his mindset’s great," Stevens said. "And I think he’s feeling good. He had a good practice yesterday, he’s had great workouts every day. He’s walked through with our first two groups the last few times and I feel good about his progress and trust that he’s ready to go.”

Boston has Rozier, Hunter and Young - there is a reason why he chose to go with Rozier over the others.  He obviously believes that Rozier is the most ready.

Hell Rozier actually played more minutes then Sully in game 3.  Coach is obviously starting to really trust in him, and his minutes are gradually going up. 

On the other hand Brad seems very hesitant to give Mickey any meaningful minutes.  Even when the depth chart got really hindered with injuries up front, Stevens always went to Lee and Zeller as last resorts.  He's gone so far as putting Crowder and Turner at the PF spot when things have gotten really desperate.  He's only ever gone to Mickey in meaningless garbage-time minutes.

I really like Mickey and there are times where I wish he did put him out there so I could see what he can do - especially in games where we are being killed inside.  But Stevens doesn't seem comfortable putting him out there in meaningful minutes yet, and I guess I should give coach the benefit of the doubt for the time being.  He spends more time with these guys then we do - he sees them in practice every day.  Maybe Mickey just isn't picking up the defensive rotations and offensive plays as quickly as Rozier and Hunter are, and so coach doesn't feel confident putting him out there for that reason?  Whatever it may be, I'm sure he has his reasons.  I'm sure we'll see Mickey soon enough. 

[Tr1boy]

Rozier is getting min bc AB is down. That's it

Rozier is getting minutes because Brad believes that he is ready to contribute at the NBA level. Brad said this himself, over a month ago:

“I thought that Terry’s really improved and continued to work and his mindset’s great," Stevens said. "And I think he’s feeling good. He had a good practice yesterday, he’s had great workouts every day. He’s walked through with our first two groups the last few times and I feel good about his progress and trust that he’s ready to go.”

Boston has Rozier, Hunter and Young - there is a reason why he chose to go with Rozier over the others.  He obviously believes that Rozier is the most ready.

Hell Rozier actually played more minutes then Sully in game 3.  Coach is obviously starting to really trust in him, and his minutes are gradually going up. 

On the other hand Brad seems very hesitant to give Mickey any meaningful minutes.  Even when the depth chart got really hindered with injuries up front, Stevens always went to Lee and Zeller as last resorts.  He's gone so far as putting Crowder and Turner at the PF spot when things have gotten really desperate.  He's only ever gone to Mickey in meaningless garbage-time minutes.

I really like Mickey and there are times where I wish he did put him out there so I could see what he can do - especially in games where we are being killed inside.  But Stevens doesn't seem comfortable putting him out there in meaningful minutes yet, and I guess I should give coach the benefit of the doubt for the time being.  He spends more time with these guys then we do - he sees them in practice every day.  Maybe Mickey just isn't picking up the defensive rotations and offensive plays as quickly as Rozier and Hunter are, and so coach doesn't feel confident putting him out there for that reason?  Whatever it may be, I'm sure he has his reasons.  I'm sure we'll see Mickey soon enough.

cracking min under CBS is difficult, especially for younger players

functionally bc of AB injury you need a defender on Schroder/Teague

Give cr to Rozier also

With Mickey,  he is a half a sec late on the court (experience factor) and also needs to add 5-7 more pounds of weight/strength.  Evenually 10-12.  I have confidence it will happen

but it's not realistic for 1st year rookies (and some are really 2nd year players in college by now)  to make an impact/perform.  Unless they get some mins to play through mistakes

[Tr1boy]

Better to pick Sabonis with the 3rd pick or he will be gone.  Then take Skal with the Dallas pick.

There is no way you take Sabonis at #3 with the level of talent that's available in that range.  He's nowhere near that good. 

I'm not convinced he he belongs in the top 10, let alone the top 3.  Based on the mock drafts I've seen around most people out there seem to agree with me on that too.

Sabonis could be a nice energy guy to bring off the bench, or maybe if you get lucky he could develop into a solid starter.  He has a pretty low ceiling at the end of the day.  A nice pick anywhere in the 10-16 range, but you'd have to be pretty crazy to consider taking him in the top 5.

the issue is he won't be there by 16. I will be surprised and delighted if he is

Do the celtics have a player they love with the 3-5 picks? 

there seems to be no consensus as who should be picked from 3-15 in this draft.  It could come down to other factors like ind workouts/inteviews/team preference more than anything

for example who is to say clearly poeltl is better than rabb??   Dunn better than Dejounte Murray (pg position).   or Luwawu better than Furkan Korkmaz?

[Celtics4ever]

I like Sabonis's tenacity.  But I concur he will be gone, unless we trade some picks to move up, which we may well do.

[Tr1boy]

I like Sabonis's tenacity.  But I concur he will be gone, unless we trade some picks to move up, which we may well do.

Sabonis is like a Jerebko , just a bit taller, better rebounder and scorer.   

Incredible motor and brings leadership to the table   

He will fit like a glove under CBS system

[konkmv]

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

[Tr1boy]

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

upside not special, not exceptional wingspan etc.

You know who had little to no upside.  Crowder

But would you really take half of the sfs in the league over Crowder? 

PPl also probably said these other sfs had so much updside and in some ways they still have room to reach it. But would you take any of them over Crowder is the question

[Tr1boy]

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

Skal has alot of pounds/strength to add

His wingspan or explosiveness is meaningless unless he can add pounds/strength to stay on the floor

He had a poor freshman year and should really stay back another year. But this being a weaker draft  (lottery prospects) , I wouldn't blame him for declaring

[Roy H.]

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

I disagree. Upside is nice, but having cheap rotation players is necessary for maintaining cap flexibility.

A guy like Maker could conceivably turn into a great player. There's a what, 5% chance of that? At the same time, he's a wasted salary slot for 3-4 years.

Do you think that the Raptors would prefer their upside pick of Bruno Caboclo, or the less risky Rodney Hood?

[Celtics4ever]

Sabonis is like a Jerebko , just a bit taller, better rebounder and scorer.   

Incredible motor and brings leadership to the table   

He will fit like a glove under CBS system

Agree.

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

If you do not think we could improve our roster, then you are either sensory deprived or naive.   Sabonis right now has more upside than some of our bigs.  Skal might have more, though I concede.   We are no ways close to a championship team or talented enough.   We are scrappy though.

[Tr1boy]

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

I disagree. Upside is nice, but having cheap rotation players is necessary for maintaining cap flexibility.

A guy like Maker could conceivably turn into a great player. There's a what, 5% chance of that? At the same time, he's a wasted salary slot for 3-4 years.

Do you think that the Raptors would prefer their upside pick of Bruno Caboclo, or the less risky Rodney Hood?

Hood

[Tr1boy]

Sabonis is like a Jerebko , just a bit taller, better rebounder and scorer.   

Incredible motor and brings leadership to the table   

He will fit like a glove under CBS system

Agree.

We will have enough good players... we need some great.. too many picks to gamble... sabonis upside is not special... skai maker could be somethnig better

If you do not think we could improve our roster, then you are either sensory deprived or naive.   Sabonis right now has more upside than some of our bigs.  Skal might have more, though I concede.   We are no ways close to a championship team or talented enough.   We are scrappy though.

We just need to put together a group of guys that are going go help the city win another championship

Seeing Sabonis carry that no name gonaza team to the sweet 16 round at age 19 shows me , he is a winner

I will be stunned/surprised if he becomes a bust or just a simple role player

Like alot of our players becomes even stronger as the game tires out. Diving on the floor for loose balls. Crashing the basket to grab that rebound.   

6'10 is def acceptable height for a PF.  Bc of his mediocre wingspan (jump is functional bc he is quick off the ground) it would be nice if he measures out at 6'11 (like some sites have been listed).  Not a deal breaker though

[Tr1boy]

Not sure if this was posted

Sabonis March madness tourney highlights 2016

http://youtu.be/JGVwj7E1x8M