Author Topic: Who gets their number retired among Pierce, Garnett, Allen and Rondo?  (Read 3206 times)

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Offline the TRUTH

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Pierce is a no-brainer as soon as he retires. Just a great Celtic for the vast majority of his career, and one of the best clutch players in franchise history. Quick side note, but I still remember back in 2005 or so during a broadcast when Bill Walton said Pierce was, at best, the third or fourth scorer for a championship team. Lay off the weed, Bill.

Garnett isn't as much of a no-brainer because he spent the majority of his career with other teams. However, he was arguably the key piece to the championship culture of the Celtics from 2007-13. He left everything on the floor and was the consummate team player. IMO, his number should be retired, but I understand the argument for why it wouldn't be because he only spent six years in Boston.

If it's up to me, Ray Allen's number wouldn't be retired. I fully respect and appreciate the clutch shots he made while in Boston, and over the course of his career, he was arguably the best shooter in NBA history. That being said, he also cost the Celtics more playoff games than he actually won for them, as he had a tendency to go stone cold at the worst times in May and June. I also thought he got way too much of a pass from the fans and media for not playing as hard as Pierce, Garnett and Rondo did. The latter three would play through injuries and throw their body around like they had another one in the closet. I respected Ray's professionalism and legendary pregame routine, but I never felt like he laid it all on the line to the extent that the other three did. Lastly, he willingly left Boston for Miami at the height of the Celtics-Heat rivalry. That in itself, to me, makes it a no-brainer that his Celtics number doesn't get retired.

Rondo is an interesting case. He still likely has several years, if not more, remaining in his career. While he's quietly averaging about 12 points and 12 assists a game for a struggling team this year, he's no longer mentioned as one of the top players in the game. As of now, his post-Boston career hasn't been nearly as impressive as his tenure in Boston. However, to me, that shouldn't have any bearing on whether his Celtics jersey is retired. While he was in Boston, he was definitely a top-five point guard in the league, and arguably the best point guard in the league. Additionally, for a three or four year period, he was also arguably the best player on a Celtics team that almost won the 2010 title and came this close to advancing to the 2012 NBA Finals. Additionally, I'll never forget the toughness he displayed in the 2011 playoffs when he came back into the game against Miami and played effectively with one arm. That, to me, captured the essence of Celtic Pride, and I'm not sure anyone else on that roster, with the possible exception of Pierce, would have even attempted to do that. I say Rondo's number should be retired when he calls it a career.

What do you guys think?

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Plain and simple, Pierce only. 

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Pierce- Lock
KG- I'd bet that he does, but it could go either way
Rondo and Ray- Unlikely
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Offline Denis998

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KG, Pierce. If anything, miami should retire ray's number, after all it was his 3 that made it all possible.
You can tell by the fans reactions when they play at the garden who should get their numbers retired. KG means more for the team than the years he has played here
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Offline Denis998

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One common thought with new players is that they say it is hard to find a good number as a Boston Celtic. I looked over the recent rosters since the Big 3 era, and no player has adopted the numbers 34, 5, 9, and 20. Makes me wonder if they already have those numbers on the reserve list until the time is right to retire the numbers.

Offline jpotter33

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Pierce- Lock
KG- I'd bet that he does, but it could go either way
Rondo and Ray- Unlikely

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Offline notbillsimmons

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One common thought with new players is that they say it is hard to find a good number as a Boston Celtic. I looked over the recent rosters since the Big 3 era, and no player has adopted the numbers 34, 5, 9, and 20. Makes me wonder if they already have those numbers on the reserve list until the time is right to retire the numbers.

I hope someone picks #69 just to make a statement about having too many retired numbers

Offline the TRUTH

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One common thought with new players is that they say it is hard to find a good number as a Boston Celtic. I looked over the recent rosters since the Big 3 era, and no player has adopted the numbers 34, 5, 9, and 20. Makes me wonder if they already have those numbers on the reserve list until the time is right to retire the numbers.

Great point, and that thought came to mind for me as well. I think most people agree that Pierce's number is guaranteed to be retired, and you could argue that Garnett's is close to that, but I'd be very disappointed if the organization had already decided to retire Ray's number.

Offline alldaboston

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Pierce definitely should be retired.
KG I'd say 70% should be retired.
Rondo probably 25% should be retired. (Mainly due to his effort level in his latter Boston years).
Allen still makes me hate him. Leaving us for Miami was the most Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ed up move possible. I would never retire his number.
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Offline SparzWizard

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Pierce and KG will be up in the rafters.

I really don't mind seeing Kevin Durant wearing #20 in Celtics green  ;D
And I really don't care about Rondo, so nope on Ray and Rondo.


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Offline Greyman

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A retired number should reflect a particular level of achievement with a team. Winning a single championship in itself isn't that level. Sustained effort and high quality play over a number of seasons are required. Pierce is a moral. KG I think fits because he played so hard and well for a decent duration and contributed tremendously to the play of others.

Allen and Rondo will cause greater debate as they didn't show the same selfless nature in the eyes of many fans. I doubt I would be upset if their numbers are retired but I won't shed a tear if they aren't either.

Offline LatterDayCelticsfan

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Rondo and Allen miss out on account of the fact that this is the Celtics, and the threshold of getting a jersey retired, compared to some of the less storied franchises is petty dang high
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Offline Csfan1984

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No on Ray and Rondo.

Also I don't feel teams should actually retire numbers at all. For any sport. Just have a Team legends list. Last names hanging above not simply numbers. Honor the player. The number itself never mattered.

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another one of these threads.  how many of these do we need?
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