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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

On a side note, not a fan of him not giving min to Mickey, Hunter, Young the last game.  But playing Clarke 3 min? playing pilon Zeller help us lose our lead.  Could of used some rim protection last night

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 11:16:18 AM »

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It blows my mind that Zeller is still in the rotation let alone playing 20 minutes a night while Mickey puts up great numbers in 2-3 minutes of action.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
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Smart played fine against George. Stuck to him most of the time, got caught in a few screens. He did fine. Would you really want George going for 40 on Turner?
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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 11:46:06 AM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.
Yeah. There were plenty of problems in that game, but Smart's defense on PG was not one of them.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

On a side note, not a fan of him not giving min to Mickey, Hunter, Young the last game.  But playing Clarke 3 min? playing pilon Zeller help us lose our lead.  Could of used some rim protection last night
The starters pretty much played the Indiana starters to a draw. All of our bench players ended up with a negative plus minus. It wasn't moving Smart to Jae's starting role that killed us last night, it was what the bench players that lost us that game (the bench players that replaced Smart's minutes).

Zeller was brutal last night. At his best he's a big that can find cracks in the defense and score with quick finishes at the hoop. He missed a ton of easy looks last night that would have made the game different.

Clarke shouldn't be playing above Young or Hunter, that was ridiculous.

Going forward I'd like to see slightly less Bradley (38 minutes is too much), a little less Smart and a little less Jerebko. Take around 20 minutes off of the those 3 guys and distribute it among Rozier, Hunter, Mickey and Young depending on match up.

Really curious if he goes with the same rotation tonight. I hope Kelly comes back tonight and takes all of Zeller's minutes.
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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2016, 12:42:57 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

On a side note, not a fan of him not giving min to Mickey, Hunter, Young the last game.  But playing Clarke 3 min? playing pilon Zeller help us lose our lead.  Could of used some rim protection last night

If you start Turner, who becomes the backup ball handler? 

Smart is a wing, always defers to Turner to handle the ball when they share the floor. 

It's not about playing Mickey less, but not having to play Rozier more.  We need to walk the line between preserving IT for the playoffs, and holding our 3rd seed.  Development can wait. 


Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2016, 01:07:09 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2016, 01:10:49 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
As I said before the starters played their starters even, so it didn't negatively effect the team as much as the bench play did.
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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2016, 01:17:02 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
george struggled when Smart was in. when turner covered him he quickly got hot.

This is not your best Triboy.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2016, 01:21:17 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
george struggled when Smart was in. when turner covered him he quickly got hot.

This is not your best Triboy.

I disagree

Ok by your approval let's leave smart out there vs Durant, Lebron, batum etc and see what happens


Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2016, 01:32:50 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
george struggled when Smart was in. when turner covered him he quickly got hot.

This is not your best Triboy.

I disagree

Ok by your approval let's leave smart out there vs Durant, Lebron, batum etc and see what happens

there's a risk to this, but I do not think it's a big deal. Smart's defense will help, while he did not shut George down, he was our best defender against him yesterday. There are two problems with this,

A. Indiana set multiple picks for George, so it's not the usual one screen that Smart deals with where he runs the screener over or fight the one screen, he is running against 2 screeners.

B. Smart's offense, it's a problem, because you switch offense for defense. While Turner could've helped a little bit on the offensive side, George will score on Turner a lot easier than he does against Smart.

I do think Smart should be in there PURELY for defense if your assignments are George, Durant or even LeBron. Don't even think about shooting that 3 ball lol.

Tonight's game I would actually change the lineup to Turner however because of Durant's height. 6'10 over 6'4 is just too much in my opinion. Quite honestly, I rather do a starting lineup of

IT/Smart/Turner (or Jerebko)/Sully/Amir for this Thunder game. Smart can guard Westbrook on defense and whoever starts at SF will guard Durant

bottom line is, the Indiana game was our first game without Crowder so it's too early to tell what is going on with Brad's decision. I think we judge during this stretch without Crowder and see what our record is

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2016, 01:35:10 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
george struggled when Smart was in. when turner covered him he quickly got hot.

This is not your best Triboy.

I disagree

Ok by your approval let's leave smart out there vs Durant, Lebron, batum etc and see what happens

Triboy, why is that you phrase the thread title in a question, which taken at its root would indicate that you're confused and need help in understanding. However, when people try to help you in your confused state you immediately become dismissive and refuse to acknowledge any of the facts provided.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2016, 01:38:15 PM »

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Smart vs George. Yeah that is going to play out well.

You start Turner.  Doesn't matter if this weakens the bench. 

A good start to the game is important for a reason. You don't need George to start getting on fire early

We got off to a 20-13 lead in the 1Q when Marcus was in with starters so I don't see the issue?

He got taken out at halfway mark because of 2 fouls, but up to that point Paul George's stat line was:

1-2 for 2 points, 2 boards, 2 turnovers, 2 steals.  Not exactly getting on fire early.

Yeah, I have no idea what Triboy is griping at. Smart made everything really hard on George, even ripping him on an iso. Triboy has also said that Mickey could lockdown George so consider the source.

How many pts did George score? How many did Smart?

In addition how many times did the Celts need to keep one eye on George/double team him once he got the ball?

Do you not think this affects the rest of the lineups play?


Bottom line is, you don't start nor for a long stretch of time place a 6'3 SG/pg on a 6'8-6'9 legit sf. Even if he is not scoring 40 he is hurting you in other ways
george struggled when Smart was in. when turner covered him he quickly got hot.

This is not your best Triboy.

I disagree

Ok by your approval let's leave smart out there vs Durant, Lebron, batum etc and see what happens
From what you saw of the game did you really think Turner did better on George than Smart did?

Marcus cant cover a player with this type of physical advantage for the entire game, but yes, I think that Marcus can cover big wings better than any other player on our team now that Jae is out.

I just dont get your point.

You talk about getting off to a good start and we did get off to a good one. we started off up 20-13. In the first 5 minutes of the game George missed a jumper, had the ball stolen from him by Smart, fouled Smart. He then made one jumper, turned it over again and committed his second foul of the game with 6 minutes remaining in the first quarter and went to the bench. 2 points 2 fouls, 2 turnovers, 6 minutes.

At the time Boston led 11-9.

Was there some hot start that I missed?