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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2016, 01:46:36 AM »

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P.s.

People criticised me when I suggested we should go after Kevin Martin when he was bought out -  but I have to say he would he would have been incredibly useful right now.  We could have started Turner and Martin could have covered his bench role. 

This is why we really need more depth at the SF spot.  Hunter and Young are still quite a way from being ready.

Having one bad defender and another who's a little below average on the team?

Evan Turner is our best player at SF with Crowder out, by a mile.  But we cannot afford to move him to the starting lineup, because we would lose ALL offensive production from our bench with Turner and Olynyk out of the bench rotation.

Having another wing scorer like Kevin Martin would allow us to move Turner to the starting lineup in Crowder's place, and Kevin Martin could replace Turner's offense off the bench.

Having a backup SF is always better than not having one.  He might have barely played, but in the event of something like this happening he'd be a different maker.

We have a ton of depth at guard and in the front court, and we have practically none at the wing.  It's an obvious hole that you just can't afford to have when you are trying to hold on to a #3 seed in a very competitive East. If we lose all three games against Indiana, OKC and Toronto (which we very easily could) then we could drop to as far as 7th seed in the space of 3 games.

But they need defense against the more talented wings in the east, Crowder can do that Smart (to an extent) but not Turner or Martin.

To somewhat compensate for what we lose with Crowder, that starting lineup needs somebody who can at least hold their own on both offense and on defence.  If we are putting in a guy who is a major liability on either end of the court, the drop off will be too huge.

Smart is a very good defensive player, but at this point he is a downright terrible offensive player and a major liability on that end of the floor - at least until he uses his brain and stops throwing up 8 threes a game.   

Turner is strong on offense and is passable on defence, which makes him a much better option to fill in for Crowder. 

Martin is irrelevant because if we did get him he wouldn't be start, he'd be coming off the bench.  You wouldn't have him playing against those star wing players.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2016, 01:47:33 AM »

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Starting Smart at the 3 is stupid. Brad's first mistake.
Start James or Clarke and keep the second unit together.

I'm sorry...WHAT? We should start a very likely bust or a 10 day guy as our SF? The position where KD, PG, and Derozan play? You just lost all credibility on this site.

Starting Smart messes up the starting unit and the second unit.
My credibility is intact.

The starting unit IS the first unit. And I don't mind moving smart to the second unit, but to replace him with those guys?

James is a decent defender and Clarke looked like Crowder 2.0.
Instead we have weakened the entire team by playing a two guard at the three.
Brad f ed up.
I strongly disagree that James Young is a decent defender. I also disagree that Coty Clarke looks like Jae Crowder 2.0

James Young is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2016, 05:39:15 AM »

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Starting Smart at the 3 is stupid. Brad's first mistake.
Start James or Clarke and keep the second unit together.

I'm sorry...WHAT? We should start a very likely bust or a 10 day guy as our SF? The position where KD, PG, and Derozan play? You just lost all credibility on this site.

Starting Smart messes up the starting unit and the second unit.
My credibility is intact.

The starting unit IS the first unit. And I don't mind moving smart to the second unit, but to replace him with those guys?

James is a decent defender and Clarke looked like Crowder 2.0.
Instead we have weakened the entire team by playing a two guard at the three.
Brad f ed up.
I strongly disagree that James Young is a decent defender. I also disagree that Coty Clarke looks like Jae Crowder 2.0

James Young is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen.
Second that.
James Young is hopefully gone from this team after this season. Can't guard and can't even score points (which supposedly is one of of his "strengths"). I know that he is young - lol - but he hasn't shown anything so far, which is why I doubt that he will even be on a NBA roster 3 years from now. Trade him while he still has some value.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 05:46:17 AM by TA9 »
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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2016, 06:47:55 AM »

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Starting Smart at the 3 is stupid. Brad's first mistake.
Start James or Clarke and keep the second unit together.

I'm sorry...WHAT? We should start a very likely bust or a 10 day guy as our SF? The position where KD, PG, and Derozan play? You just lost all credibility on this site.

Starting Smart messes up the starting unit and the second unit.
My credibility is intact.

The starting unit IS the first unit. And I don't mind moving smart to the second unit, but to replace him with those guys?

James is a decent defender and Clarke looked like Crowder 2.0.
Instead we have weakened the entire team by playing a two guard at the three.
Brad f ed up.
I strongly disagree that James Young is a decent defender. I also disagree that Coty Clarke looks like Jae Crowder 2.0

James Young is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen.
Second that.
James Young is hopefully gone from this team after this season. Can't guard and can't even score points (which supposedly is one of of his "strengths"). I know that he is young - lol - but he hasn't shown anything so far, which is why I doubt that he will even be on a NBA roster 3 years from now. Trade him while he still has some value.

Can't see where he would get any Value from. He has shown nothing at all. The worse thing is he clocked in 22 mins this past game and didn't score a bucket. He's outta here.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2016, 07:39:52 AM »

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Young has been a disappointment to say the least

He can't dribble using his right hand.  Yesterday in 15 of mainly garbage time made little to no impact. He had what 2 pts? Passive

Too bad we missed out on nurkic

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2016, 07:46:58 AM »

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Young has been a disappointment to say the least

He can't dribble using his right hand.  Yesterday in 15 of mainly garbage time made little to no impact. He had what 2 pts? Passive

Too bad we missed out on nurkic
We should have drafted Rodney Hood with the Young pick. Would have helped us a lot right now in terms of Crowder being injured :-\
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Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2016, 08:58:09 AM »

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at least until he uses his brain and stops throwing up 8 threes a game.   

Smart is shooting those threes because Stevens WANTS him to shoot those threes.  It's the same thing as with Sully the last two years.  Smart could easily be doing different things in the offense rather than just planting himself behind the three point line but that's what he's been told to do.

Look at Memphis.  Tony Allen shoots less than one three a game and it's not like the Grizzlies have a bunch of other guys who space the floor by hitting from behind the arc.

This is how Stevens wants the team to play.  When it works, they play way above their talent level.  When it doesn't, they look absolutely awful.  As Ainge (hopefully) acquires better talent over the next two seasons, we'll have to see how Stevens adjusts to that.

Mike

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2016, 02:09:27 PM »

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Starting Smart at the 3 is stupid. Brad's first mistake.
Start James or Clarke and keep the second unit together.

I'm sorry...WHAT? We should start a very likely bust or a 10 day guy as our SF? The position where KD, PG, and Derozan play? You just lost all credibility on this site.

Starting Smart messes up the starting unit and the second unit.
My credibility is intact.

The starting unit IS the first unit. And I don't mind moving smart to the second unit, but to replace him with those guys?

James is a decent defender and Clarke looked like Crowder 2.0.
Instead we have weakened the entire team by playing a two guard at the three.
Brad f ed up.
I strongly disagree that James Young is a decent defender. I also disagree that Coty Clarke looks like Jae Crowder 2.0
I would start Clarke and keep the second unit intact.
Smart is not a three.
Big mistake by Brad.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2016, 05:06:22 PM »

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LOL...Smart's defense was absolutely not and never will be the issue.  If you want to complain about him, complain about this shooting, which is nonexistent right now.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2016, 11:24:18 AM »

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Update:

Turner started at SF vs Toronto and we were down 30-14 after the 1Q.

Re: Someone help me understand what CBS is doing starting Smart at sf?
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2016, 11:27:18 AM »

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Update:

Turner started at SF vs Toronto and we were down 30-14 after the 1Q.

We really don't have a backup for Crowder which is scary. If not Turner or Smart that leaves Young or Clark. I don't feel RJ is strong enough to fill that spot.