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Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
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Check out the highlights comparison of Booker vs Murray.  yes its NBA vs College ball competition . But try to focus on the individual.   Both have outstanding motors, can really shoot (run around screens and shoot in one motion from 3 pt land is very difficult to guard),  can really score in other ways  (those dribble stop and pops), embrace clutch situations. Both give solid effort on the defensive end. Both are big for SGs.   Booker is 6'6 with a nice wingspan measurement.   Jamal Murray 6'5  and only avg wingspan but solid strength for age and can only get stronger  (finish through contact).

I can see if we miss out on netting a top 3-4 pick,  Danny taking Murray.   The Celtics already are a strong defensive team and could use some more offensive power. Especially a guy who can go off is what the doctor ordered


Booker 34 Pts
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Murray 33 Pts 9 Rebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MydBsdfpGVw
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Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.
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Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 06:45:35 AM »

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Jamal Murray reminds me of Randy Foye.

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 07:27:57 AM »

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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 07:34:59 AM »

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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Draft Express has this:
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Measuring a bit smaller than he has at previous events at 6'4.25 with a 6'6.5 wingspan and a 207-pound frame, Jamal Murray has similar size to Rodney Stuckey, who measured 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'6.25 wingspan and a 207-pound frame in 2007.

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 08:08:01 AM »

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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Draft Express has this:
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Measuring a bit smaller than he has at previous events at 6'4.25 with a 6'6.5 wingspan and a 207-pound frame, Jamal Murray has similar size to Rodney Stuckey, who measured 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'6.25 wingspan and a 207-pound frame in 2007.

You forgot to finish the rest of the sentence

"For a player who isn't often noted as being overwhelmingly explosive, as is better known for his terrific skill-level, Murray's 39.5 inch maximum vertical leap is impressive."

Regardless 6'4.25, 6'4.5 he could very well be closer to 6'5 on draft night. He has a wide frame, built and strong for a sg
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Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Draft Express has this:
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Measuring a bit smaller than he has at previous events at 6'4.25 with a 6'6.5 wingspan and a 207-pound frame, Jamal Murray has similar size to Rodney Stuckey, who measured 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'6.25 wingspan and a 207-pound frame in 2007.

You forgot to finish the rest of the sentence

"For a player who isn't often noted as being overwhelmingly explosive, as is better known for his terrific skill-level, Murray's 39.5 inch maximum vertical leap is impressive."

Regardless 6'4.25, 6'4.5 he could very well be closer to 6'5 on draft night. He has a wide frame, built and strong for a sg

Not saying I'd draft Murray but he's a good prospect. We also start a 5'9 pg who happens to be our best player and a 6'2 sg. Are we the team that worries about a guy being a little bit undersized? Lol

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 08:53:13 AM »

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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Draft Express has this:
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Measuring a bit smaller than he has at previous events at 6'4.25 with a 6'6.5 wingspan and a 207-pound frame, Jamal Murray has similar size to Rodney Stuckey, who measured 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'6.25 wingspan and a 207-pound frame in 2007.

You forgot to finish the rest of the sentence

"For a player who isn't often noted as being overwhelmingly explosive, as is better known for his terrific skill-level, Murray's 39.5 inch maximum vertical leap is impressive."

Regardless 6'4.25, 6'4.5 he could very well be closer to 6'5 on draft night. He has a wide frame, built and strong for a sg

So? Your entire opening post was mostly on his height not his athletic ability, which is a weakness despite the testing.

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 08:56:44 AM »

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Haha. Murray is 6'4.25" IN shoes. He not only isn't big for a SG, but he's undersized. Has a similar body to Rodney Stuckey.

Per draftexpress and several other sites he is listed as 6'5.

Draft Express has this:
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Measuring a bit smaller than he has at previous events at 6'4.25 with a 6'6.5 wingspan and a 207-pound frame, Jamal Murray has similar size to Rodney Stuckey, who measured 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'6.25 wingspan and a 207-pound frame in 2007.

You forgot to finish the rest of the sentence

"For a player who isn't often noted as being overwhelmingly explosive, as is better known for his terrific skill-level, Murray's 39.5 inch maximum vertical leap is impressive."

Regardless 6'4.25, 6'4.5 he could very well be closer to 6'5 on draft night. He has a wide frame, built and strong for a sg

Not saying I'd draft Murray but he's a good prospect. We also start a 5'9 pg who happens to be our best player and a 6'2 sg. Are we the team that worries about a guy being a little bit undersized? Lol

exactly. And he is thick and has a 39 inch max vertical leap

Eddie20 is just nitpicking.

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 08:59:46 AM »

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Jamal Murray reminds me of Randy Foye.

they are not comparable.  Foye is smaller in frame.  He is not the shooter Murray is

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 09:56:03 AM »

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I can see if we miss out on netting a top 3-4 pick,  Danny taking Murray.   The Celtics already are a strong defensive team and could use some more offensive power. Especially a guy who can go off is what the doctor ordered.

Triboy, so assuming you're the GM and select Murray, ahead of Bender and Brown, where do you play him at? Whose minutes does he take? We already have Thomas, Smart, and Bradley, with only Smart being big enough to handle 3's for stretches. This also doesn't include 1st rd picks Rozier and Hunter, neither of which is capable of playing the 3. So what positional versatility does Murray offer?

Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
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Booker was slightly younger his freshman year than Murray is now, but I think Murray has had a considerably better freshman year than Booker had last year.

Booker was a spot up shooter who spaced the floor for Kentucky. Murray is the first option and about to set the record for freshman scoring in a season at Kentucky. Booker got most of his offense in transition and spotting up. Murray gets most of his offense running off screen and taking contested shots, if Murray isn't able to do what he is doing now then the offense simply doesn't run.

I like Booker, but I think Murray is going to be a much better pro, because his feel as a scorer is better than Booker's was at a similar time of his life.
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Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
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I can see if we miss out on netting a top 3-4 pick,  Danny taking Murray.   The Celtics already are a strong defensive team and could use some more offensive power. Especially a guy who can go off is what the doctor ordered.

Triboy, so assuming you're the GM and select Murray, ahead of Bender and Brown, where do you play him at? Whose minutes does he take? We already have Thomas, Smart, and Bradley, with only Smart being big enough to handle 3's for stretches. This also doesn't include 1st rd picks Rozier and Hunter, neither of which is capable of playing the 3. So what positional versatility does Murray offer?
You give him a lot of Evan Turner's minutes. If they continue to start Bradley and Thomas, then Smart and Murray fit excellently together off the bench.

I'm not really concerned with a short term long jam at the position because if Murray can be a go to scorer then they will make time for him.
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Re: Jamal Murray reminds me of Devin Booker
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 10:19:55 AM »

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I can see if we miss out on netting a top 3-4 pick,  Danny taking Murray.   The Celtics already are a strong defensive team and could use some more offensive power. Especially a guy who can go off is what the doctor ordered.

Triboy, so assuming you're the GM and select Murray, ahead of Bender and Brown, where do you play him at? Whose minutes does he take? We already have Thomas, Smart, and Bradley, with only Smart being big enough to handle 3's for stretches. This also doesn't include 1st rd picks Rozier and Hunter, neither of which is capable of playing the 3. So what positional versatility does Murray offer?
You give him a lot of Evan Turner's minutes. If they continue to start Bradley and Thomas, then Smart and Murray fit excellently together off the bench.

I'm not really concerned with a short term long jam at the position because if Murray can be a go to scorer then they will make time for him.

Turner can play the 3. It might not be his ideal position defensively, but he has shown an ability to hold his hand at the spot because he has good size. Asking a player like Murray, nearly 3 inches smaller and with an average wingspan do the same, is asking a lot.

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I can see if we miss out on netting a top 3-4 pick,  Danny taking Murray.   The Celtics already are a strong defensive team and could use some more offensive power. Especially a guy who can go off is what the doctor ordered.

Triboy, so assuming you're the GM and select Murray, ahead of Bender and Brown, where do you play him at? Whose minutes does he take? We already have Thomas, Smart, and Bradley, with only Smart being big enough to handle 3's for stretches. This also doesn't include 1st rd picks Rozier and Hunter, neither of which is capable of playing the 3. So what positional versatility does Murray offer?
You give him a lot of Evan Turner's minutes. If they continue to start Bradley and Thomas, then Smart and Murray fit excellently together off the bench.

I'm not really concerned with a short term long jam at the position because if Murray can be a go to scorer then they will make time for him.

Turner can play the 3. It might not be his ideal position defensively, but he has shown an ability to hold his hand at the spot because he has good size. Asking a player like Murray, nearly 3 inches smaller and with an average wingspan do the same, is asking a lot.
Murray will take Turner's responsibilities on offense, and then guard 2's on defense. Smart can guard 3's for short stints if need be, or you can sub Crowder out of the first unit early so he gets time at the 3 with a back court of Smart and Murray.

It's not important what role Murray fills immediately, what is important is if he's going to the be the best player long term. If Murray is the better player long term I'll take him 100% of the time over a guy who is a better fit positionally. You always go best player available, or you will regret it long term.
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