Max on CSN

[walker834]

Gotta love Maxwell.

"I don't like Ben Simmons.  I like Ingram the guy from Duke."

"You want Boogie Cousins.  I wouldn't give you a bag of hot rox for Boogie Cousins. He's an individual.  He's a team destroyer."

"Crowder is a poor man's Jimmy Butler. Crowder can score.  Butler can score more. He's an ok defender.  He doesn't really change the dynamic of your team."

Felger - "Would you take Kyrie Irving?"

Max - "You want to trade this guy for that guy and it doesn't work that way."

Felger - "It's a talk show."

I love this stuff because you rarely get this pov on the internet in the media or in forums.  It's how I used to be and still am on forums.  Max gets it though, the celtics need to find a player that fits and changes the dynamic of the team.  Easier said than done in trades through the draft etc. I always enjoy that pov because DA, Heinsohn, Max all have that in common.  They played the game and know what's up.

[rondohondo]

Gotta love Maxwell.

"I don't like Ben Simmons.  I like Ingram the guy from Duke."

"You want Boogie Cousins.  I wouldn't give you a bag of hot rox for Boogie Cousins. He's an individual.  He's a team destroyer."

"Crowder is a poor man's Jimmy Butler. Crowder can score.  Butler can score more. He's an ok defender.  He doesn't really change the dynamic of your team."

Felger - "Would you take Kyrie Irving?"

Max - "You want to trade this guy for that guy and it doesn't work that way."

Felger - "It's a talk show."

I love this stuff because you rarely get this pov on the internet in the media or in forums.  It's how I used to be and still am on forums.  Max gets it though, the celtics need to find a player that fits and changes the dynamic of the team.  Easier said than done in trades through the draft etc. I always enjoy that pov because DA, Heinsohn, Max all have that in common.  They played the game and know what's up.

yea cousins is someone I would stay away from , the guy is unstable.

[walker834]

Listening to Max's Logic

1. I like Okafor the best out of the rumors.  It fits what he is talking about
2. I'll go with him with Ingram over Simmons as well
3. Durant, Love are kind of those pipedreams I don't see happening
4. Horford is a solid move and an upgrade over Amir on the cheap.  Atlanta wanted too much.
5. Jimmy Butler, Hayward and guys like that kind of fit that same mold of good players but don't really change the dynamic of this team
6. Kyrie Irving I'm not sure is worth the headache of even discussing.  We have Isaiah and he fits this team well. Kyrie could be a better version of that  but it makes very little sense.  They are similar players.  Kyrie may have more upside but it's debateable who fits this team better. Are we going to change directions and build our team with Kyrie and Butler instead of Isaiah, Crowder and guys like Smart and Bradley? I doubt it.  Ainge could piece together a team somehow with Kyrie, Butler, Okafor and totally different players but I don't see it happening or even how it fits into the philosophy of what we are doing.

Reading between the lines.  Getting Ingram and either Horford or Okafor this offseason would be a real good job.

[chambers]

People forget that Jimmy Butler is a shooting guard.
He'd be out there with Crowder, and we'd have two guys that can arguably guard any wings in the league.
The idea behind getting Butler is having him as the 2nd fiddle on a contender, with Isaiah being the 3rd fiddle.

We'll still need another top 10 player, but Butler is a legitimate top 10 NBA player on both ends.

[walker834]

 I think in simple terms the objective should be to upgrade at wing and center.  It's why we are linked to all these guys.  Butler and guys like Hayward don't really change the dynamic of this team by themselves.  I'd take Ingram and a guy like Horford or Okafor over Butler and Cousins myself right now but it's all relative.  Right now we have interchangeable parts. David Lee couldn't even unseat guys like Zeller, Jerebko and Mickey because between the 3 we get better production and versatility. We also have young guards in Young, Hunter and Rozier who are going to want to play eventually so it's not that simple.  Ainge more than likely is going to have to get creative.  I like the direction of our team and question whether all these picks are good or a detriment to our current roster though.  We are a well coached team.  We have a lot of guys we can throw at teams and are well coached and utilized the best we can as it is.   We are overloaded at guard.  Realistically taking these picks and upgrading Amir and getting a really good wing would make sense but who knows.

Having depth vs one guy is a plus in ways as it is.   Our current record and upward trending speaks to that.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Maxwell is a Larry Bird Hater....dude is so jealous of the attention Bird got back then.

[walker834]

I think Max has a point though.  It is how it fits in ways and not that simple.  Even Ainge knows this.  We need stars but it's not as simple as saying we are going trade this guy for that guy.  Ainge has said that himself.  He made that quote about Kobe Bryant when he became GM.  To fans it's that way.  We just trade this guy and get so and so. But it's not that simple.

Ainge has also said he would have taken Tim Duncan over Kobe Bryant.  When he became gm he has that quote where he said to fans it's like I'm going to go out there and trade this guy and that g uy for Kobe Bryant and it doesn't work that way.

Ainge does not go with trends or what's popular.  He would have taken Durant over Oden.  He liked Stevens over Krysinski.  Etc, etc..  He likes the underdog himself.

When fans were clamoring to trade Pierce, he hired Doc Rivers and kept Pierce and built around him.  Doc is still  underrated by fans.  Al Jefferson was a fan favorite.  Perk was the underdog.  He put pieces around those guys and traded for KG and Ray. He went with Rondo, Pierce, Baby, Tony Allen, Powe etc.  A lot of these guys were criticized heavily by fans. I listened to it. Bradley was the same thing.  So is Sully. Sully was a fan favorite.  I didn't really see it at the time where KO got criticized and Sully got a free pass.  Sully Gets  a lot of criticism now and not really deservably so imo.  He's played well this year.

Fans were clammoring for Embiid, Wiggins etc. He drafted Smart and stayed put and felt that draft was overrated.  He was trying to get up and get either Okafor or Winslow the next draft I feel though.

[straightouttabahstun]

I can understand him wanting to pick Ingram over Simmons. All the attention that Simmons is getting is clearly getting to his head and affecting his character a little bit. But he's also a kid so he'd grow out of it most likely after playing in the league for a year or two

[greece66]

If you have the opportunity to get a top-20 player at the right price, you just get him.

You don't worry too much about chemistry- teams reconsider their plans  for their best players.

PS I am also tired of the Cousins trade rumours, and I also do not see this happening. But to claim that he is a team destroyer unworthy of 'a bag of hot rox' (whatever that is) is ludicrous BS and attention seeking. Same goes for many of the other gems from the interview: lots of big words without any arguments to back them up.