Can Mickey please take all Zeller's minutes?

[Snakehead]

If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

LOL wow way to elevate discussion and make solid points.

I made a solid point.

Thanks.

You even said you didn't but sure.  Share your game tape of his pick and rolls.

I'll let you know when I upload it.

You can fit it in a Vine or a gif.

[nickagneta]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Never once called him dumb or compared him to Gerald. Go back and read and DO NOT put words in my mouth.

You pretty much compared him to every other rookie who doesn't get minutes. So you kind of did.

You grouped him with guys like Gerald Green and James Young and other guys who had no mental game as rooks. If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

Sorry, you again need to go back and read what I wrote. I never said or even implied such things. So I will thank you to stop saying I said things that I never said

I read the whole back and forth you had with Budweiser and thought you couldn't be more wrong.

You can't group Mickey with every other rookie that came through Doc or Stevens. It's a thin argument you were making.

Who said I was grouping him with other players. Every case is individual. Doc had rooks and youngsters he played because he didn't have players in front of them that were better than those players. Stevens is doing the same thing. Boston is the youngest team in the league. Stevens is obviously playing youth.

But Mickey isn't ready yet. As of this very instance, Zeller is the better player and brings more to the table as an all around player. So Stevens is playing him.

Does that mean I said Zeller will always be the better player? No. Does that mean that Zeller has more potential than Mickey? No. Does that mean that Mickey is in the same class as players like Young, Giddens, Bill Walker, and a host of other young players that came through here and never saw time? No.

So stop assuming that is what I am saying because its not. So once again. Stop saying I am saying stuff I am not.

I think its pretty clear what you said and what can be implied.

I think I got it right.

Well you didn't get it right, so stop misrepresenting what I said.

[KeepRondo]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Never once called him dumb or compared him to Gerald. Go back and read and DO NOT put words in my mouth.

You pretty much compared him to every other rookie who doesn't get minutes. So you kind of did.

You grouped him with guys like Gerald Green and James Young and other guys who had no mental game as rooks. If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

Sorry, you again need to go back and read what I wrote. I never said or even implied such things. So I will thank you to stop saying I said things that I never said

I read the whole back and forth you had with Budweiser and thought you couldn't be more wrong.

You can't group Mickey with every other rookie that came through Doc or Stevens. It's a thin argument you were making.

Who said I was grouping him with other players. Every case is individual. Doc had rooks and youngsters he played because he didn't have players in front of them that were better than those players. Stevens is doing the same thing. Boston is the youngest team in the league. Stevens is obviously playing youth.

But Mickey isn't ready yet. As of this very instance, Zeller is the better player and brings more to the table as an all around player. So Stevens is playing him.

Does that mean I said Zeller will always be the better player? No. Does that mean that Zeller has more potential than Mickey? No. Does that mean that Mickey is in the same class as players like Young, Giddens, Bill Walker, and a host of other young players that came through here and never saw time? No.

So stop assuming that is what I am saying because its not. So once again. Stop saying I am saying stuff I am not.

I think its pretty clear what you said and what can be implied.

I think I got it right.

Well you didn't get it right, so stop misrepresenting what I said.

I'm not misrepresenting your thoughts. I'm simplifying them.

[rondohondo]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Never once called him dumb or compared him to Gerald. Go back and read and DO NOT put words in my mouth.

You pretty much compared him to every other rookie who doesn't get minutes. So you kind of did.

You grouped him with guys like Gerald Green and James Young and other guys who had no mental game as rooks. If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

Sorry, you again need to go back and read what I wrote. I never said or even implied such things. So I will thank you to stop saying I said things that I never said

I read the whole back and forth you had with Budweiser and thought you couldn't be more wrong.

You can't group Mickey with every other rookie that came through Doc or Stevens. It's a thin argument you were making.

Who said I was grouping him with other players. Every case is individual. Doc had rooks and youngsters he played because he didn't have players in front of them that were better than those players. Stevens is doing the same thing. Boston is the youngest team in the league. Stevens is obviously playing youth.

But Mickey isn't ready yet. As of this very instance, Zeller is the better player and brings more to the table as an all around player. So Stevens is playing him.

Does that mean I said Zeller will always be the better player? No. Does that mean that Zeller has more potential than Mickey? No. Does that mean that Mickey is in the same class as players like Young, Giddens, Bill Walker, and a host of other young players that came through here and never saw time? No.

So stop assuming that is what I am saying because its not. So once again. Stop saying I am saying stuff I am not.

I think its pretty clear what you said and what can be implied.

I think I got it right.

Well you didn't get it right, so stop misrepresenting what I said.

I'm not misrepresenting your thoughts. I'm simplifying them.

[nickagneta]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Never once called him dumb or compared him to Gerald. Go back and read and DO NOT put words in my mouth.

You pretty much compared him to every other rookie who doesn't get minutes. So you kind of did.

You grouped him with guys like Gerald Green and James Young and other guys who had no mental game as rooks. If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

Sorry, you again need to go back and read what I wrote. I never said or even implied such things. So I will thank you to stop saying I said things that I never said

I read the whole back and forth you had with Budweiser and thought you couldn't be more wrong.

You can't group Mickey with every other rookie that came through Doc or Stevens. It's a thin argument you were making.

Who said I was grouping him with other players. Every case is individual. Doc had rooks and youngsters he played because he didn't have players in front of them that were better than those players. Stevens is doing the same thing. Boston is the youngest team in the league. Stevens is obviously playing youth.

But Mickey isn't ready yet. As of this very instance, Zeller is the better player and brings more to the table as an all around player. So Stevens is playing him.

Does that mean I said Zeller will always be the better player? No. Does that mean that Zeller has more potential than Mickey? No. Does that mean that Mickey is in the same class as players like Young, Giddens, Bill Walker, and a host of other young players that came through here and never saw time? No.

So stop assuming that is what I am saying because its not. So once again. Stop saying I am saying stuff I am not.

I think its pretty clear what you said and what can be implied.

I think I got it right.

Well you didn't get it right, so stop misrepresenting what I said.

I'm not misrepresenting your thoughts. I'm simplifying them.

Again you are wrong. Go ahead and have the last word, I am done talking to someone who can't comprehend what they read because they are to busy trying to put words in my mouth

[Snakehead]

I'm not misrepresenting your thoughts. I'm simplifying them.

[KeepRondo]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Never once called him dumb or compared him to Gerald. Go back and read and DO NOT put words in my mouth.

You pretty much compared him to every other rookie who doesn't get minutes. So you kind of did.

You grouped him with guys like Gerald Green and James Young and other guys who had no mental game as rooks. If you want to make a shallow argument then you will get shallow responses to your thin argument.

Sorry, you again need to go back and read what I wrote. I never said or even implied such things. So I will thank you to stop saying I said things that I never said

I read the whole back and forth you had with Budweiser and thought you couldn't be more wrong.

You can't group Mickey with every other rookie that came through Doc or Stevens. It's a thin argument you were making.

Who said I was grouping him with other players. Every case is individual. Doc had rooks and youngsters he played because he didn't have players in front of them that were better than those players. Stevens is doing the same thing. Boston is the youngest team in the league. Stevens is obviously playing youth.

But Mickey isn't ready yet. As of this very instance, Zeller is the better player and brings more to the table as an all around player. So Stevens is playing him.

Does that mean I said Zeller will always be the better player? No. Does that mean that Zeller has more potential than Mickey? No. Does that mean that Mickey is in the same class as players like Young, Giddens, Bill Walker, and a host of other young players that came through here and never saw time? No.

So stop assuming that is what I am saying because its not. So once again. Stop saying I am saying stuff I am not.

I think its pretty clear what you said and what can be implied.

I think I got it right.

Well you didn't get it right, so stop misrepresenting what I said.

I'm not misrepresenting your thoughts. I'm simplifying them.

Again you are wrong. Go ahead and have the last word, I am done talking to someone who can't comprehend what they read because they are to busy trying to put words in my mouth

Ok. You had an argument with Budweiser trying to argue that any rookie who couldn't get playing time was exactly like every other rookie who never did under Doc or Stevens. So you did group Mickey with Green and Young. You go on to say that you are 100 percent sure they shouldn't play since he hasn't yet and because of the track record of those other players.

That's where you go wrong.

[nickagneta]

He is just not that good yet or ready to play. If he was better than Zeller right now he would be playing. People just need to get it. The kid isn't ready yet. We have to wait until next year to see what he can do. This year is about winning and Stevens feels playing the best players wins games. Mickey isn't one of our ten best players, so he doesn't play.

You really need to get away from that argument you've closed yourself into.

Whether it be true or not in this case.

Why exactly? It makes complete sense. If Mickey were playing better than Zeller he would be playing because Stevens wants to win games.

Sorry if I believe that Mickey's game should be more than just being able to block a couple shots a night, but I do. Mcikey has to learn to block out better, switch on the outside better without getting lost, play the pick and roll and pick and pop better, box out better, throw the outlet pass better, roll to the basket better, set screens better, pass better, and know his overall role better.

Mickey still needs developmental time and you can't get that on a team fighting for home court advantage in the playoffs. He  can shine in the D-League all he wants but the NBDL is not the NBA. The Red Claws are not the Celtics. His defensive mistakes he constantly makes in the D-League can be covered up quick with athleticism in the D-League but not in the big league. NBA players will actually play NBA defense against him and not that horrid brand of defense they play in the NBDL.

When his game exceeds that of Zeller as a total player, he will play because Stevens wants to win.

It's a sound argument and makes logical sense. What's the argument to play him? Zeller is bad? Well, my guess is that Stevens feels that if he gives Mickey regular minutes he will be worse than Zeller. I'll go with what the coach thinks and does and from what I have seen of Mickey thus far.

He is just not ready.

All I'm saying, irrespective of this particular situation, is that you need to step away from that argument because it's the one you ALWAYS use to explain why a player doesn't get on the floor.

The league is littered with players who are ready to contribute but just don't get the playing time. There's a real hierarchy in the NBA that influences this types of decisions as well. 

You seem to hold a coach on a pedestal without room for other explanations, as in, maybe he's wrong about what certain player might provide on the game as opposed to another regardless of their development level at that point.

That's my issue with the argument, not necessarily with this case, but with you throwing it around every time a scenario like this comes up.

Sorry, you don't like the argument but it happens to be true for teams trying to win games. I have brought this argument out in defense of Doc and Stevens because both have had that philosophy during times when this team wasn't tanking. You did not see me using this argument prior to 2007-2008 or during the season over the last two years. While coaches can be wrong, I have yet to see Doc or Stevens be wrong on this point. Both have for the most part played young

It's not that I don't like the argument because it is valid in many instances. It's that it's thin and not an explain-all either.

If someone isn't ready, he isn't ready. It also doesn't precludes him from out-playing someone who has more experience than him, and that being the case it shouldn't be a reason for a coach (a win-now coach) to not play him.

For me though, I haven't argued much of playing him over Zeller, but definitely over Jerebko against certain match-ups. Against Thompson/Love combo was one of them.

The reality of it though is that in the limited showings Mickey has had for us, he's been by a good degree quite useful on the floor.

Maybe he's not all that ready, but he's ready enough to get spot minutes particularly when match-ups demand it.

He is just not that good yet or ready to play. If he was better than Zeller right now he would be playing. People just need to get it. The kid isn't ready yet. We have to wait until next year to see what he can do. This year is about winning and Stevens feels playing the best players wins games. Mickey isn't one of our ten best players, so he doesn't play.

You really need to get away from that argument you've closed yourself into.

Whether it be true or not in this case.

Why exactly? It makes complete sense. If Mickey were playing better than Zeller he would be playing because Stevens wants to win games.

Sorry if I believe that Mickey's game should be more than just being able to block a couple shots a night, but I do. Mcikey has to learn to block out better, switch on the outside better without getting lost, play the pick and roll and pick and pop better, box out better, throw the outlet pass better, roll to the basket better, set screens better, pass better, and know his overall role better.

Mickey still needs developmental time and you can't get that on a team fighting for home court advantage in the playoffs. He  can shine in the D-League all he wants but the NBDL is not the NBA. The Red Claws are not the Celtics. His defensive mistakes he constantly makes in the D-League can be covered up quick with athleticism in the D-League but not in the big league. NBA players will actually play NBA defense against him and not that horrid brand of defense they play in the NBDL.

When his game exceeds that of Zeller as a total player, he will play because Stevens wants to win.

It's a sound argument and makes logical sense. What's the argument to play him? Zeller is bad? Well, my guess is that Stevens feels that if he gives Mickey regular minutes he will be worse than Zeller. I'll go with what the coach thinks and does and from what I have seen of Mickey thus far.

He is just not ready.

All I'm saying, irrespective of this particular situation, is that you need to step away from that argument because it's the one you ALWAYS use to explain why a player doesn't get on the floor.

The league is littered with players who are ready to contribute but just don't get the playing time. There's a real hierarchy in the NBA that influences this types of decisions as well. 

You seem to hold a coach on a pedestal without room for other explanations, as in, maybe he's wrong about what certain player might provide on the game as opposed to another regardless of their development level at that point.

That's my issue with the argument, not necessarily with this case, but with you throwing it around every time a scenario like this comes up.

First, I feel I am right so am going to continue this argument so if you don't like it, don't read my posts.

Second, you have seen me have this argument mostly during years the Celtics have attempted to win games and not tank. I didn't make this argument prior to 2007-08 or much over the last two seasons. When Doc and Stevens have wanted to win games they played the best players and sometimes those players were young and unproven. Also, I can't recall a major player that didn't get time here that went on to become something special elsewhere. This pretty much proves I am right.

Say what you want about Zeller, but as of right this very minute, he is a better basketball player than Mickey and provides Stevens with better overall performance on the floor than Mickey. When Zeller is gone next year, and possibly Sully too, the Celtics might have some minutes for Mickey as I am sure his game will develop more over this summer and next fall. Maybe he earns the time then. But it's fairly obvious to anyone paying attention he isn't going to get the opportunity this year because he just isn't ready

Here are my conversations with Budweiser.

I am posting them so that everyone can see what was actually said. I never called Mickey dumb. I never compared him to past players. I never lumped him in with any other group of players that never got playing time under Doc or Stevens.

I have been pretty steadfast in saying Mickey just isn't better than Zeller at this point in time. I have been steadfast in saying that when Doc and Stevens wanted to win they played their best players, regardless of age or experience.

Anyone saying I said or implied anything different is lying to you. Here is the proof.

[KeepRondo]

I'm starting to love Mickey more and more and more. 3 blocks in one possession, my god

Exactly, one possession. A possession in garbage time where a dysfunctional offense had no other option going for it but to drive into a clogged lane because no one could hit an outside shot.

Before that time Mickey appeared lost on both ends of the floor being out of position and doing a bunch of ball watching while also mishandling the ball and turning it over. The kid had one good 5 second spurt.

People loving blocks is no different than people loving dunks. Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good ballplayer. Same goes for blocking shots, especially when those shots tend to be in garbage time versus second and third stringers that have made up their mind they have to drive inside even when they shouldn't be.

Listen, I have nothing against Mickey. He has loads of potential. He will get his chance next year to prove he has a skill beyond being able to block shots. Hopefully he will show that he has learned the offense and defense better and can work and be productive. But let's stop pretending that he deserves minutes because he can block some shots. His offense is bad and he gets lost on defense unless someone is driving right at him or because his man stays put in the paint.

Right now Zeller and Jerebko bring a load more to the table in the way of a complete game and they deserve the minutes as does Olynyk when he returns. Mickey needs to wait until next year.

He does more than dunk and block shots. In fact there is one thing he does better than blocking shots. His ability of moving without the ball is one of the best I've seen from a rookie in a while. He runs a great pick and roll. Moves well on help D. He just has a natural feel for positioning.

I feel your arguments on this thread have been kind of silly. Just because Brad chooses to not play him doesn't mean he can't contribute on this team. He's not Gerald Green. He's not James Young. So stop comparing him to clueless rookies. It's a weak argument to say well he's not playing so he must be dumb like Gerald Green.

Here is my post so people can see I was making a point with my reply. Obviously no one would believe you called Mickey dumb. You are turning this into something we've seen at the republican debate. It's silly.

Keeprondo is a liar!

Lol

[Chris22]

Three blocks in five seconds.
Free Mickey.

[Dino Pitino]

http://youtu.be/mwe3badqgbI

That third block is as impressive as the hand-switching one from the DLeague. Expert shot-blocking. I don't have an opinion about anything else involving his game, but as long as he earns minutes, Mickey is going to be the second best shotblocker in Celtics history. Somebody convince him to grow his hair out like Ben Wallace.

[greece66]

http://youtu.be/mwe3badqgbI

That third block is as impressive as the hand-switching one from the DLeague. Expert shot-blocking. I don't have an opinion about anything else involving his game, but as long as he earns minutes, Mickey is going to be the second best shotblocker in Celtics history. Somebody convince him to grow his hair out like Ben Wallace.

Love the energy with which the kid plays + I expect him to take more time in easy games as the season approaches its end. Having said this, exaggeration too much?

Our best shot blocker was arguably the best shot blocker in the history of the game.

And then you have McHale (2 blks per 36 mins) and Parish (1.9 per 36). Let's give it some time before we compare a rookie to HoFers.

Moreover, (this is not directed to Dino Pitino but a general remark) I think ppl here are overly harsh on Zeller. He saved our butts many times last season, he accepted without much complain losing his mins to Lee at the beginning of this season, and since he was called back into the rotation he's been doing his best.

True, his Achilles heel is his defensive game against stronger bigs- but our roster in general has an issue there.

His offensive game remains solid. 48%FG  is a regression by comparison to last year but is still good. So is 9.4 rebs and 1 block per 36:not great (esp. considering he gets few mins) but still OK. Not a starter but still a solid bench player.

[KeepRondo]

http://youtu.be/mwe3badqgbI

That third block is as impressive as the hand-switching one from the DLeague. Expert shot-blocking. I don't have an opinion about anything else involving his game, but as long as he earns minutes, Mickey is going to be the second best shotblocker in Celtics history. Somebody convince him to grow his hair out like Ben Wallace.

TP for the link.

That dude never had a chance to get the shot over Mickey.

[Dino Pitino]

I know McHale and Parish were great shotblockers. McHale, especially. Mickey, if he ever earns 25-30 minutes a game, will be better.

[Tr1boy]

http://youtu.be/mwe3badqgbI

That third block is as impressive as the hand-switching one from the DLeague. Expert shot-blocking. I don't have an opinion about anything else involving his game, but as long as he earns minutes, Mickey is going to be the second best shotblocker in Celtics history. Somebody convince him to grow his hair out like Ben Wallace.

Kid is a special shot blocker