Valentine with Mavs pick, or Brown with Nets pick

[alewilliam789]

If we don't get in the top 2 I would love to see us trade the pick for Jahlil Okafor. He is more of a sure thing and has already established himself as an NBA player with potential.

I'm the same way. Outside of the top 2 there are very few players that offer upside and actually fit with our team. Philly is really looking for a PG or PF which are both positions we have excess of. I'm sure if we land top 3 we could package up some picks and grab Okafor. They grab Ingram, take Dunn at 4, and then swipe up Malik Beasley later on in the draft. They add pieces that make them immensely better.

76ers starters:
PG: Kris Dunn
SG: Malik Beasley
SF: Brandon Ingram
PF: Dario Saric
C: Nerlens Noel

Celtics starters:
PG: Isaiah Thomas
SG: Avery Bradley
SF: Jae Crowder
PF: Amir Johnson
C: Jahlil Okafor


Doesn't exactly put us over the edge, but gets us that much closer. Add a superstar to that and you have yourself a championship team. Probably at PF preferably.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

[KG Living Legend]

 Yeah, I second Yoki. Brown is almost 6'6" shoes off.
 So in the NBA call Brown 6'8". They usually make Gus like Vince Carter taller that reality.

 Brown could be way better that Justice if he improves handles.

[loco_91]

I'd love to see us draft Brown, who's explosive with solid handles + overall scoring ability. Valentine doesn't excite me, as he isn't dominating nearly enough as a senior to convince me that his skills are sufficiently awesome to overcome his sub-par physical tools in the NBA. One-way guys like him without much burst just don't tend to translate very well against NBA defenses. I'd rather draft Korkmaz, who is younger with more upside.

[KG Living Legend]

 Winslow was 6'4.5" at the combine. Brown is exactly 1" taller.

[loco_91]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

Brown is a bit more explosive, but overall Winslow is the better prospect. Brown scores a bit more on slightly worse efficiency, but the most glaring differences are defense (Winslow was an elite college defender, and he collected twice as many steals as Brown) and turnover rate (Winslow: 2.5/40; Brown: 4.3). Winslow also had that misleading 42% on 3's, but they have similar FT% (64%); Brown does get to the line at a much higher rate than Winslow did (9.4 vs 5.5 attempts per 40).

[positivitize]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

Brown is a bit more explosive, but overall Winslow is the better prospect. Brown scores a bit more on slightly worse efficiency, but the most glaring differences are defense (Winslow was an elite college defender, and he collected twice as many steals as Brown) and turnover rate (Winslow: 2.5/40; Brown: 4.3). Winslow also had that misleading 42% on 3's, but they have similar FT% (64%); Brown does get to the line at a much higher rate than Winslow did (9.4 vs 5.5 attempts per 40).

So Brown is a slightly taller, less defensively inclined Winslow who slashes more often? Kinda hard to get excited about that as a early-mid lottery pick, although Winslow probably should have been a early-mid pick himself.

[KG Living Legend]

 Update on Valentine. He absolutely dominated evey faucet of the game. He is the point guard, the off guard and a small foward.

 Team Fg% today was 66.7% best since 2007. And he lead the team basically buy himself. He was 5/6 from three's. I only saw him miss three times today.

 27 points and a Career high 13 assists. Brilliant Basketball player. Player of the year. Nobody was better this year.

[CFAN38]

I would have to say Valentine because I predict he goe lottery singe is a huge value at #19. As the the nets pick I'm hoping for bender or poeltl but would be happy if DA took brown with Simmons, Ingram, bender and poeltl off the board

[KG Living Legend]

I'd love to see us draft Brown, who's explosive with solid handles + overall scoring ability. Valentine doesn't excite me, as he isn't dominating nearly enough as a senior to convince me that his skills are sufficiently awesome to overcome his sub-par physical tools in the NBA. One-way guys like him without much burst just don't tend to translate very well against NBA defenses. I'd rather draft Korkmaz, who is younger with more upside.

 Loco, Valentine is the best player in the country and it's not even close.

 Brown is more exciting if you like Dunk's and speed, But I get excited by no look passes, and making the correct pass every time in the pick and roll, or making the write read and shooting the three.

 I promise If we drafted Valentine you'll be glad we did.

[chilidawg]

Warming to brown if we get the 3 or 4 pick

I think he's more athletic and a little longer, but has shown less offensive polish.  Winslow was pretty good offensively his one year at Duke, I'm surprised he's struggled so much thus far with Miami.

[chilidawg]

I'd love to see us draft Brown, who's explosive with solid handles + overall scoring ability. Valentine doesn't excite me, as he isn't dominating nearly enough as a senior to convince me that his skills are sufficiently awesome to overcome his sub-par physical tools in the NBA. One-way guys like him without much burst just don't tend to translate very well against NBA defenses. I'd rather draft Korkmaz, who is younger with more upside.

Being NCAA player of the year (which he should be) isn't dominating enough?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

Brown is a bit more explosive, but overall Winslow is the better prospect. Brown scores a bit more on slightly worse efficiency, but the most glaring differences are defense (Winslow was an elite college defender, and he collected twice as many steals as Brown) and turnover rate (Winslow: 2.5/40; Brown: 4.3). Winslow also had that misleading 42% on 3's, but they have similar FT% (64%); Brown does get to the line at a much higher rate than Winslow did (9.4 vs 5.5 attempts per 40).

So Brown is a slightly taller, less defensively inclined Winslow who slashes more often? Kinda hard to get excited about that as a early-mid lottery pick, although Winslow probably should have been a early-mid pick himself.

Less defensively inclined doesn't mean he doesn't defend though. Brown has great defensive fundamentals and his athleticism and size helps him be able to defend most positions. Winslow's motor and mentality on defense is just better.

He's deadly on the open court, something we thrive on, so theres a good fit in there.

[cltc5]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

Brown is a bit more explosive, but overall Winslow is the better prospect. Brown scores a bit more on slightly worse efficiency, but the most glaring differences are defense (Winslow was an elite college defender, and he collected twice as many steals as Brown) and turnover rate (Winslow: 2.5/40; Brown: 4.3). Winslow also had that misleading 42% on 3's, but they have similar FT% (64%); Brown does get to the line at a much higher rate than Winslow did (9.4 vs 5.5 attempts per 40).

So Brown is a slightly taller, less defensively inclined Winslow who slashes more often? Kinda hard to get excited about that as a early-mid lottery pick, although Winslow probably should have been a early-mid pick himself.

Less defensively inclined doesn't mean he doesn't defend though. Brown has great defensive fundamentals and his athleticism and size helps him be able to defend most positions. Winslow's motor and mentality on defense is just better.

He's deadly on the open court, something we thrive on, so theres a good fit in there.

I think brown is more aggressive to the rim than Winslow.  Someone compared him to a bigger Marcus smart without the defense.  Not a bad thing

[Ilikesports17]

How does Brown compare to Winslow?

Bigger and more athletic. Winslow probably has better feel for the game, Brown can be erratic at some point.

Brown is a bit more explosive, but overall Winslow is the better prospect. Brown scores a bit more on slightly worse efficiency, but the most glaring differences are defense (Winslow was an elite college defender, and he collected twice as many steals as Brown) and turnover rate (Winslow: 2.5/40; Brown: 4.3). Winslow also had that misleading 42% on 3's, but they have similar FT% (64%); Brown does get to the line at a much higher rate than Winslow did (9.4 vs 5.5 attempts per 40).

So Brown is a slightly taller, less defensively inclined Winslow who slashes more often? Kinda hard to get excited about that as a early-mid lottery pick, although Winslow probably should have been a early-mid pick himself.

Less defensively inclined doesn't mean he doesn't defend though. Brown has great defensive fundamentals and his athleticism and size helps him be able to defend most positions. Winslow's motor and mentality on defense is just better.

He's deadly on the open court, something we thrive on, so theres a good fit in there.

I think brown is more aggressive to the rim than Winslow.  Someone compared him to a bigger Marcus smart without the defense.  Not a bad thing

That's unfair to Brown. He is a far superior athlete to Marcus. I think Brown is an explosive Stanley Johnson