If We Win Lottery and Take Simmons...

[Tr1boy]

Having Simmons defend PF would be a mistake. 

Simmons would have a big adv on the offensive end against most sfs and the size/strength/length to cause sfs issues on the defensive end

only when you have a SF/SG or if another team goes small ball , Simmons sb be switched to the PF spot

Amir
KO
Simmons
AB
IT

Mickey
Crowder
Smart
Hunter
Rozier

without considering draft picks, FA and sully, zeller, turner, Jerebko

[nickagneta]

Having Simmons defend PF would be a mistake. 

Simmons would have a big adv on the offensive end against most sfs and the size/strength/length to cause sfs issues on the defensive end

only when you have a SF/SG or if another team goes small ball , Simmons sb be switched to the PF spot

Amir
KO
Simmons
AB
IT

Mickey
Crowder
Smart
Hunter
Rozier

without considering draft picks, FA and sully, zeller, turner, Jerebko

Simmons is a PF, and a dang good one at that. He doesn't have the outside shooting to play a SF in Stevens' offense. He would best be utilized playing from the high post as a big and developing his mid range and pick and roll games while slowly developing his three pointers over the years as he develops along.

[Evantime34]

Having Simmons defend PF would be a mistake. 

Simmons would have a big adv on the offensive end against most sfs and the size/strength/length to cause sfs issues on the defensive end

only when you have a SF/SG or if another team goes small ball , Simmons sb be switched to the PF spot

Amir
KO
Simmons
AB
IT

Mickey
Crowder
Smart
Hunter
Rozier

without considering draft picks, FA and sully, zeller, turner, Jerebko

Simmons and Crowder at 3/4 would allow the Celtics to switch on screens like Brad Stevens has shown a preference for.

The NBA is trending smaller and more skilled, in today's NBA it is always to have a player play up a position than down one. Plus one of Simmons best skills is his rebounding and keeping him primarily on the perimeter negates that skill.

As a player that can't shoot he is much better suited as a player that can contribute immediately by rolling hard to the hoop, rebounding and running the break.

[Celtics4ever]

Is it certain we would take Simmons, Ingram is nice too.

I think Ben would play right away, if you have a top pick they usually play folks.  I would play him ahead of Sully now.  Stevens thinks bigs and wings not C and PF.  His lack of a solid outside shot may make him less than ideal for our system.

[Jon]

I think this whole "not playing two ball dominant guys at the same time" is way overrated. Regardless if IT comes off the bench or not, he'd certainly be playing with Simmons for large chunks of the game.  So it really doesn't matter that much.

[Dino Pitino]

A question occurred to me after thinking about Turner earlier: How long would it take for Simmons to average at least, say, 16 pts, 8 reb, 7 ast? Could he do it right away if given enough minutes? In a complementary role, as a SF/PF given some regular point forward time, does that sound about right for what his per-36 averages would be if his minutes were in the 20-30 range, right off the bat as a rookie? What could his TS% be like in his first year or two, under .500, over .500, above average?

[Csfan1984]

A question occurred to me after thinking about Turner earlier: How long would it take for Simmons to average at least, say, 16 pts, 8 reb, 7 ast? Could he do it right away if given enough minutes? In a complementary role, as a SF/PF given some regular point forward time, does that sound about right for what his per-36 averages would be if his minutes were in the 20-30 range, right off the bat as a rookie? What could his TS% be like in his first year or two, under .500, over .500, above average?

No way he will average 7 ast on this team as it is constructed. The current team doesnt have enough spot up shooters and finishers. Maybe 5 in his second year. I think the biggest thing for him is becoming the finisher and drawing fouls. If he can shoot 48% and just focus on getting inside via fast athletic rolling and cuts he will bring something new to the team. New because team's current bigs tend to be too slow and unathletic to finish against "good" defenders. It will open up jump shots and iso plays for other players as well. This is due to the fact opponents can't afford to get too far and lose sight of him cutting. His athleticism and instincts has to be his advantage early on in his career. Offensive rebounds and enjoying nice in the paint slip/drop passes should be half of his offense if he wants to be efficient.

[Dino Pitino]

So, not quite so many assists. My real question, then, is are we seeing a kind of preview of what Simmons will roughly be like in the Evan Turner of February? Career-wise, Turner is the floor, of course, or the basement ceiling, lol. But this last month he could have been providing a glimpse of Simmons's ceiling as a rookie/sophomore. In what ways will an early Simmons exceed February-Turner? EDIT: And transitively, is it plausible to say that if we were getting February-Turner from here on out for the next two years, that that would probably be just as good as having a rookie-sophomore Simmons...for those two years, anyway.

[aingeforthree]

Ainge is trading that first pick for an all star big

[Csfan1984]

So, not quite so many assists. My real question, then, is are we seeing a kind of preview of what Simmons will roughly be like in the Evan Turner of February? Career-wise, Turner is the floor, of course, or the basement ceiling, lol. But this last month he could have been providing a glimpse of Simmons's ceiling as a rookie/sophomore. In what ways will an early Simmons exceed February-Turner? EDIT: And transitively, is it plausible to say that if we were getting February-Turner from here on out for the next two years, that that would probably be just as good as having a rookie-sophomore Simmons...for those two years, anyway.

#s would be similar enough to say that but I'm not sure if Simmons will thrive as much as Turner does in broken play scenarios. Turner is an excellent opportunist. Also guys can struggle their first 2 years adapting to the NBA. Simmons has done excellent job stepping up to the college level the NBA is another animal. All his #s from college should drop by 20 to 40% for the first year or two.

[BornReady]

Do you think Stevens would start Simmons or Ingram considering we r the 3rd rank east team

My guess is they do the same as they did smart
Put him on the bench and develop him gradually until he is worthy of starting

[Tr1boy]

Having Simmons defend PF would be a mistake. 

Simmons would have a big adv on the offensive end against most sfs and the size/strength/length to cause sfs issues on the defensive end

only when you have a SF/SG or if another team goes small ball , Simmons sb be switched to the PF spot

Amir
KO
Simmons
AB
IT

Mickey
Crowder
Smart
Hunter
Rozier

without considering draft picks, FA and sully, zeller, turner, Jerebko

Simmons is a PF, and a dang good one at that. He doesn't have the outside shooting to play a SF in Stevens' offense. He would best be utilized playing from the high post as a big and developing his mid range and pick and roll games while slowly developing his three pointers over the years as he develops along.

Disagree. Which pf in the NBA do you see handle the ball ? (Unless they are playing small ball).

Can Lebron play pf in the NBA? Sure he can. But he doesn't bc he is a point forward. Just like how Simmons will be in the NBA

You don't want him to be battling the likes the ibaka under the basket, especially on the defensive end

[Celtics4ever]

I for one would like to see Simmons be more selfish and take more shots.

Do you think Stevens would start Simmons or Ingram considering we r the 3rd rank east team

My guess is they do the same as they did smart
Put him on the bench and develop him gradually until he is worthy of starting

Smart is a number six pick.   Simmons would probably be our best big walking in the door folks. he would play.

[Dino Pitino]

So, not quite so many assists. My real question, then, is are we seeing a kind of preview of what Simmons will roughly be like in the Evan Turner of February? Career-wise, Turner is the floor, of course, or the basement ceiling, lol. But this last month he could have been providing a glimpse of Simmons's ceiling as a rookie/sophomore. In what ways will an early Simmons exceed February-Turner? EDIT: And transitively, is it plausible to say that if we were getting February-Turner from here on out for the next two years, that that would probably be just as good as having a rookie-sophomore Simmons...for those two years, anyway.

#s would be similar enough to say that but I'm not sure if Simmons will thrive as much as Turner does in broken play scenarios. Turner is an excellent opportunist. Also guys can struggle their first 2 years adapting to the NBA. Simmons has done excellent job stepping up to the college level the NBA is another animal. All his #s from college should drop by 20 to 40% for the first year or two.

I'm struggling to see more than a few differences between Turner at his best just now and what Simmons will be at first. Same-ish strengths, same-ish weaknesses, same-ish skills. I get a chuckle that Evan Turner would win the award in a contest of closest match in the NBA right now to Ben Simmons. We might as well already have the 2016-17 version of NBA Simmons on the team now, in the form of...Evan Turner, lol.

[ThaPreacher]

If we win the lottery,
there is a good chance the Lakers would lose their pick to Philly (Top 3)
Philly would then have two picks.

Why not parlay Simmons for the two Philly picks?

Then certainly the fireworks would begin!