is tanking any different than a flop

[rollie mass]

tanking hurts more than a teams morale, it effects the whole draft process
rookies groomed in a enviornment of negitivity and intentional loss
one and done makes a mockery of college  and turns them into a turnstyle minor leagues
the tv rights must be immense
in a way reds daughter is right,the games today are a three ring circus and the cheerleader/dancers just need a pole or front row gets a lap dance included in price
-not that i don't enjoy it but this is basketball not what the combat zone was
the celtics defence is inspirational,there lack of quit is not just a one off
marcus is pretty good at garning attention  to moving screens and offensive excesses
his last was  a very close elbow and his flop should be fined ,that flop is common  in european soccer it ruins the game -players continually going down in agonizing pain only to hop back up after the penalty is called-
it ruins the game but is basketball allready just a circus  and haven't even mentioned the payment and power of superstars -how can a coach even coach or management draft with stars dictating terms and any stability complicated by free agency-do the inmates run the asylum
anybody remember the movie  the producers and springtime for hitler, now that was a flop and the nba seems to be moving in that direction-legalized gambling,bad owners,lebron and the draft
the all star game used to be serious east vs west TV money and the show must go on with pro basketball being played mid summer
marcus flopped and was trapped in his charade by multiple cameras and replays but there are much bigger issues- multiple teams are flopping big time

[Dino Pitino]

Great analogy. Great post. TP.

[rollie mass]

marcus and his defence and celtics defence has guys that fight over the top and i'm sure the opponents bigs are told to not let that happen
with offences using a torturous labyrinth of screens the defensive man is so handicapped that those moving screens and hip checks should be called -
without marcus drawing attention by getting knocked off these they wouldn't be called
i seem to have seen  a minnesota player make a great play by impeading avery's arm" a grab" not ferocious but enough to alter the outcome of getting to ball -doesn't take much to gain advantage at this level

[Celtics4ever]

A flop can help your team get a possession, tanking helps get a draft pick.  They are apples and oranges as I see it.

[rollie mass]

both are about gaining possesion of something based on deceptive practices  and both are fruit

[KeepRondo]

I would sit him for a game for this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NJLi9i2To

[GC003332]

I don't Smart is doing himself or the most importantly the team any long term favours doing this type of crap, Refs have long memories and don't like being shown up with this garbage.
Not giving Smart those 50/50 calls can be their payback.

[TheTruthFot18]

A flop can help your team get a possession, tanking helps get a draft pick.  They are apples and oranges as I see it.

I like apples and oranges so I see them as similar. 

[CelticPride2016]

Smart should stop doing that. It's okay to exaggerate a little bit, so the ref sees it, but outright cheating is no good.

I haven't quit watching the Celtics since the Bird era, but I imagine some time in the future if our team is bad and the refereeing is still inept, I might stop.

[Donoghus]

Flopping is gamesmanship.  Tanking is more like fixing games.

[Surferdad]

The Producers was a funny movie!

[PhoSita]

"Tanking" is more about who's watching than what the team is doing.

Some fans see a deliberate, cynical, and ultimately wrongheaded effort to throw away games in order to get a high draft pick.

Other fans see a franchise prioritizing the future over the present in an intelligent and practical recognition of the realities of team building in the NBA.

[CelticPride2016]

There is no justification to outright tanking and it should be penalized. Maybe drop them down a couple slots. You can't do that for this year, but create new NBA laws. Get rid of the two foot step and palming. I agree Auerbach's kid makes good points. It's about the game. Having cheerleaders is kind of ridiculous. Keep it down with the piped-in music.

There are beautiful women all over the place.

There are a lot of things wrong with the NBA.

M.L. Carr and the Celtics should have been penalized for tanking. Other times we got penalized for players dying. Maybe with the NBA as wrestling they will decide it's Boston's turn. Stern and Red used to hate each other or it seemed. Maybe Silver will rig the ping pong balls for us this time.

The refereeing is outrageous. They should let the replay center zap the refs who will wear headphones stopping the play. It is better to get things right than to worry about longer games. There was one last game where it was an obvious ref mistake anyone watching on t.v. could see. Even Mike and Scal were on top of that one. Get rid of flopping, and bring in the technology. Make the game pure again.