Anthony Davis put up 59/20 today, lets just call it a 60/20 game...

[Celtics17]

While these are outstanding numbers what's really amazing is it would have been just another good game for Chamberlain. One like he averaged for an entire season.

[Smartacus]

I like how Tanguay thought that A. Davis might be the mystery man Danny was talking about. Like, yeah, we are getting Davis for the Brooklyn pick.

What a monstrous shame he doesn't have any decent teammates. He should demand a trade to Boston immediately.

Shame for sure. 

This guy is so incredibly talented, he has serious potential to finish his career as a top 10 big of all time.

Scary thing is that Karl Towns' potential might be even higher...that is truly frightening.

I don't know CS, I think Town's floor might be higher than Davis' since he has a more traditional modern big man game and maybe a bit higher BBIQ, but Anthony Davis is a supreme athlete.

AD dunk's harder, flies a bit higher and can convert plays that no one else in the league can make. Think it's fair to say that Towns could have a better career or be a more winning player but IMO AD has the higher Ceiling.

Maybe something like Towns is Duncan to AD's Shaq. Duncan goes down with the better career but Shaq had stretches where he was the more dominant player.

Davis' floor? Davis' floor is already best big man in the game. I love Towns, but that is impossible.

Sad to say Davis' floor is probably injury plagued star that never took the leap to legendary. If he keeps injuring that shoulder or *knocks on wood* has an ACL tear it doesn't matter how good he becomes.

Davis has always looked a bit out of sorts in his body. He grew up so quickly you wonder if his body was ever really able to adjust. Towns has been 7'0 since freshman year of high school, just seems like a more natural big man.

[hwangjini_1]

While these are outstanding numbers what's really amazing is it would have been just another good game for Chamberlain. One like he averaged for an entire season.

not quite. wilt's best season he averaged "merely" 50.4 points per game and 25.7 rebounds per game. 

he did have one very good evening with exactly 100 points. in another game, his favorite he said, he grabbed 55 rebounds against bill russell. wilt also scored more than 60 points 15 different times.

just about everyone's records pale next to those of wilt the stilt.

[rondohondo]

While these are outstanding numbers what's really amazing is it would have been just another good game for Chamberlain. One like he averaged for an entire season.

not quite. wilt's best season he averaged "merely" 50.4 points per game and 25.7 rebounds per game. 

he did have one very good evening with exactly 100 points. in another game, his favorite he said, he grabbed 55 rebounds against bill russell. wilt also scored more than 60 points 15 different times.

just about everyone's records pale next to those of wilt the stilt.

Yea, but he was also playing against guys who were insurance salesmen in the off-season .

[Big333223]

I like how Tanguay thought that A. Davis might be the mystery man Danny was talking about. Like, yeah, we are getting Davis for the Brooklyn pick.

What a monstrous shame he doesn't have any decent teammates. He should demand a trade to Boston immediately.

Shame for sure. 

This guy is so incredibly talented, he has serious potential to finish his career as a top 10 big of all time.

Scary thing is that Karl Towns' potential might be even higher...that is truly frightening.

I don't know CS, I think Town's floor might be higher than Davis' since he has a more traditional modern big man game and maybe a bit higher BBIQ, but Anthony Davis is a supreme athlete.

AD dunk's harder, flies a bit higher and can convert plays that no one else in the league can make. Think it's fair to say that Towns could have a better career or be a more winning player but IMO AD has the higher Ceiling.

Maybe something like Towns is Duncan to AD's Shaq. Duncan goes down with the better career but Shaq had stretches where he was the more dominant player.

Davis' floor? Davis' floor is already best big man in the game. I love Towns, but that is impossible.

Sad to say Davis' floor is probably injury plagued star that never took the leap to legendary. If he keeps injuring that shoulder or *knocks on wood* has an ACL tear it doesn't matter how good he becomes.

This. As great as he is, there are no guarentees and he's shown signs of being injury prone. In 3 seasons he's played 64, 67, and 68 games. I think he's missed 6 this season. It's not hard to imagine him missing 15-20 games a year, never quite putting everything together, never getting the right teammates around him and finishing with a Chris Webber-esque career.

[loco_91]

What a monstrous shame he doesn't have any decent teammates. He should demand a trade to Boston immediately.

Shame for sure. 

This guy is so incredibly talented, he has serious potential to finish his career as a top 10 big of all time.

Scary thing is that Karl Towns' potential might be even higher...that is truly frightening.

I don't know CS, I think Town's floor might be higher than Davis' since he has a more traditional modern big man game and maybe a bit higher BBIQ, but Anthony Davis is a supreme athlete.

AD dunk's harder, flies a bit higher and can convert plays that no one else in the league can make. Think it's fair to say that Towns could have a better career or be a more winning player but IMO AD has the higher Ceiling.

Maybe something like Towns is Duncan to AD's Shaq. Duncan goes down with the better career but Shaq had stretches where he was the more dominant player.

AD has a higher floor and ceiling. That's coming from someone who is a huge fan of KAT. AD is already better than Towns's floor, for one, and AD is so insanely physically gifted that it's hard to see any limit to his upside. There's really no obvious reason that he can't be as good as prime KG, which would make him, well, one of the 4 best power forwards of all time (KG, Duncan, Malone). Towns can also be a perennial MVP contender, but he doesn't have AD's explosiveness, and he isn't quite AS skilled as Duncan always was.

[Tr1boy]

dayam we almost had him too =P

[crimson_stallion]

What a monstrous shame he doesn't have any decent teammates. He should demand a trade to Boston immediately.

Shame for sure. 

This guy is so incredibly talented, he has serious potential to finish his career as a top 10 big of all time.

Scary thing is that Karl Towns' potential might be even higher...that is truly frightening.

I don't know CS, I think Town's floor might be higher than Davis' since he has a more traditional modern big man game and maybe a bit higher BBIQ, but Anthony Davis is a supreme athlete.

AD dunk's harder, flies a bit higher and can convert plays that no one else in the league can make. Think it's fair to say that Towns could have a better career or be a more winning player but IMO AD has the higher Ceiling.

Maybe something like Towns is Duncan to AD's Shaq. Duncan goes down with the better career but Shaq had stretches where he was the more dominant player.

AD has a higher floor and ceiling. That's coming from someone who is a huge fan of KAT. AD is already better than Towns's floor, for one, and AD is so insanely physically gifted that it's hard to see any limit to his upside. There's really no obvious reason that he can't be as good as prime KG, which would make him, well, one of the 4 best power forwards of all time (KG, Duncan, Malone). Towns can also be a perennial MVP contender, but he doesn't have AD's explosiveness, and he isn't quite AS skilled as Duncan always was.

I don't know man...

In his rookie year Davis had Per-36 numbers of 16.9 points, 10.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 1.5 steals, 2.2 blocks and he shot 51.6% FG, 75.1% FT and didn't hit a three.

Towns this year has Per-36 numbers of 20.2 points, 12 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 0.8 steals, 1.8 blocks and he's shooting 53.5%, 35.8% from three and 85.2% from the line.

Towns has FAR better stats this year

As far as advanced stats go, Davis had a +9 Net rating in his rookie year, and Town's has a +7 Net Rating this year so pretty close. 

Can't tell you the Real Plus Minus numbers since it wasn't recorded in Davis' rookie year,.

I think Davis is obviously more athletic (which creates matchup problems in itself), but I think Towns is more a more versatile and skilled big.  He's a better rebounder, much better outside shooter, probably has more potential in terms of his post-up game  because of his superior physical strength. 

How many bigs have their been who entered the league in the past in the past 30 years who have put up close to the type of Per-36 rookie stats that Towns is putting up this year? 

I'm thinking:
* Demarcus Cousins (18 / 11 / 3)
* Patrick Ewing (20 / 9 / 2)
* David Robinson (24 / 12 / 2)
* Chris Webber (20 / 10 / 4
* Shaq (22 / 13 / 2)
* Hakeem (21 / 12 / 1.5)
* Duncan (20 / 11 / 2)
* Christian Laettner (19 / 9 / 3)

I cant really think of man (or any) others. 

With the exception of Cousins (still playing) and Laettner, that is a list full of some of the greatest big men ever to play the game.

Towns has some serious greatness in his future.

[max215]

What a monstrous shame he doesn't have any decent teammates. He should demand a trade to Boston immediately.

Shame for sure. 

This guy is so incredibly talented, he has serious potential to finish his career as a top 10 big of all time.

Scary thing is that Karl Towns' potential might be even higher...that is truly frightening.

I don't know CS, I think Town's floor might be higher than Davis' since he has a more traditional modern big man game and maybe a bit higher BBIQ, but Anthony Davis is a supreme athlete.

AD dunk's harder, flies a bit higher and can convert plays that no one else in the league can make. Think it's fair to say that Towns could have a better career or be a more winning player but IMO AD has the higher Ceiling.

Maybe something like Towns is Duncan to AD's Shaq. Duncan goes down with the better career but Shaq had stretches where he was the more dominant player.

AD has a higher floor and ceiling. That's coming from someone who is a huge fan of KAT. AD is already better than Towns's floor, for one, and AD is so insanely physically gifted that it's hard to see any limit to his upside. There's really no obvious reason that he can't be as good as prime KG, which would make him, well, one of the 4 best power forwards of all time (KG, Duncan, Malone). Towns can also be a perennial MVP contender, but he doesn't have AD's explosiveness, and he isn't quite AS skilled as Duncan always was.

I don't know man...

In his rookie year Davis had Per-36 numbers of 16.9 points, 10.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 1.5 steals, 2.2 blocks and he shot 51.6% FG, 75.1% FT and didn't hit a three.

Towns this year has Per-36 numbers of 20.2 points, 12 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 0.8 steals, 1.8 blocks and he's shooting 53.5%, 35.8% from three and 85.2% from the line.

Towns has FAR better stats this year

As far as advanced stats go, Davis had a +9 Net rating in his rookie year, and Town's has a +7 Net Rating this year so pretty close. 

Can't tell you the Real Plus Minus numbers since it wasn't recorded in Davis' rookie year,.

I think Davis is obviously more athletic (which creates matchup problems in itself), but I think Towns is more a more versatile and skilled big.  He's a better rebounder, much better outside shooter, probably has more potential in terms of his post-up game  because of his superior physical strength. 

How many bigs have their been who entered the league in the past in the past 30 years who have put up close to the type of Per-36 rookie stats that Towns is putting up this year? 

I'm thinking:
* Demarcus Cousins (18 / 11 / 3)
* Patrick Ewing (20 / 9 / 2)
* David Robinson (24 / 12 / 2)
* Chris Webber (20 / 10 / 4
* Shaq (22 / 13 / 2)
* Hakeem (21 / 12 / 1.5)
* Duncan (20 / 11 / 2)
* Christian Laettner (19 / 9 / 3)

I cant really think of man (or any) others. 

With the exception of Cousins (still playing) and Laettner, that is a list full of some of the greatest big men ever to play the game.

Towns has some serious greatness in his future.

Towns has no ceiling. I will repeat: no ceiling.

[PhoSita]

Davis is gonna be amazing when he finally demands a trade and goes to a contender four or five years from now.  Just wish we could see him get a shot at deep playoff runs before then.

[jambr380]

I think AD's injury-proneness is overstated; he has had some minor injuries, but has always played at least mid-60s games every year. One torn ACL to Towns and the argument is flipped.

I just think saying that the floor of a rookie (a very good one mind-you) is higher than that of one of the premier superstars in our game today.

I think a better argument isn't who has a higher floor or ceiling (I think both of those titles belong to Davis), but that Towns 'could' end up the better player based on his performance thus far.

[Big333223]

When people talk about Towns' floor, I think what they're saying is that the foundation his game is built on is unlikely to fail him. His shooting touch is more natural than Davis' (Davis had to work a little harder to get to where he's at now) and his body is bigger and stronger, naturally, which, unlike Davis' athleticism, is less likely to fade or be as affected by injury.

As long as Towns is still big and can shoot, he's going to be fine. Davis' abilities mean he's capable of more but his game is more susceptible to age and health.