Where are the celtics if we do nothing?

[Eja117]

If we do nothing then for those teams that wanted Godfather offers for their expiring "stars" in the offseason we go straight at those guys and pitch to them that we have a ton of assets because we had the discipline not to trade them at the deadline.

We have guys like Al Horford asking Isaiah Thomas at the all star game what it's like to play for Stevens. Getting Horford for nothing would be fun.

[greece66]

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/700411567150596097

So, we buy out Lee and might give a bit of playing time to Mickey.

[PhoSita]

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/700411567150596097

So, we buy out Lee and might give a bit of playing time to Mickey.

Dont' get Triboy excited.

[ahonui06]

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/700411567150596097

So, we buy out Lee and might give a bit of playing time to Mickey.

Dont' get Triboy excited.

Wouldn't be opposed to buying out David Lee but hard to see Mickey getting more playing time with the logjam at PF

[celticinorlando]

Dump Lee and try to get as far in the playoffs as they can...

[passesofftodj]

I for one am glad no move was made.  I didn't like trading assets for Horford or Howard.  It wasn't enough to win the championship and we can still go after Horford in the off-season along with Love, etc. if that is what DA wants to do.

Worst case scenario they cannot move any picks or sign a max player so they let some of the vets go, draft and stash, and then take a step back next year to really come on the following year with more high picks.  Eventually they will hit one or someone will come here via FA.

I am totally fine with not overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier stars.  I didn't expect Cle to move Love at the deadline.

I love keeping the BK pick and expect them to get a max guy in the off-season and then move a couple of the other picks before the draft (Dal/Philly/Celts).

[Greenback]

They better continue to overachieve.  The mantra has been: don't mess with the chemistry.

It is a bit of a disappointment that the Celtics couldn't continue to tip toe at getting better.

For example, Tobias Harris was a cheap pickup by Detroit.  It seems to me that he would of been a good SF/PF to have around - probably better than Crowder, Turner, Olynyk, Jerebko, Young and a whole host of players currently on the roster.

[walker834]

Horford would have been interesting.  Didn't want Howard and would have traded the pick for Love.  I'm not a big fan of Griffin either.  I like that celtics do things differently.  There is always so much hype during deadlines and the draft and Danny remains patient.  We really could have gotten someone though.  We have so many picks and no way to use them all.  I am a fan of building through the draft vs getting established stars but it depends.

[Rosco917]

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/700411567150596097

So, we buy out Lee and might give a bit of playing time to Mickey.

I'll be quite happy with this ^ happening. I think Mickey can have some sort of impact defensively on this Celtics team. I like our team most of the time.

But with all the picks we have in the up and coming draft, four I believe, what do we do with all these young players we'll have... Young, RJ, Mickey, Rozier, plus the four more draftees?

I'm just not seeing this scenario work, the C's have a deep roster, i.e. may players that have value...just which young players will be included on next years roster, if any, and which veterans will be, (I guess) traded away to make room for them.

Also are we going to match offers for Sully? The longer we keep him the more this looks evident.

Somewhere along the line a trade has to be made. And how long before other NBA teams GM's figure this out, and take advantage of it.

I'm sorry I'm getting confused, it looks like we're backing our way into a corner.

[mctyson]

Don't forget, we can draft as many Europeans as we want and leave them overseas.  I would be completely fine using 4 or 5 picks doing that.  Might just get lucky.

We could field an entire European pro team.

[walker834]

Lets say the Celtics hit on the next 3 brooklyn picks that's 3 young stars on rookie deals to add to our current core.  We can really stash our other picks somehow let players walk.  It's not ideal but we can just keep adding talent. Danny is a good drafter.

[jay]

If the Cap is $89 mil next season, could Danny keep some of Sullinger/Zeller/Turner and still have room for a free agent?  Assuming Jerebko and Amir don't get their options picked up?

Celtics Payroll next season:

Avery 8.3 mil
Thomas 6.2
Crowder 7
Smart 4.5
Olynyk 3
Rozier 2
Young 2.8
Mickey 1.2
Hunter 1.2
-----------------  36.2
Turner  8
Zeller 7
Sullinger  12
------------------   36.2 + 27 = 63.2
Nets pick  4
Mavs pick 2
Celtics pick 1.2
Philly pick 1
-------------------- 63.2 + 8.2 = 71.4



That's 16 players, but like someone said above, you can draft a Euro and stash them or trade a pick for a future pick. If my math is correct, you could possibly keep all 3 of Turner/Zeller/Sullinger and still have  almost $20 million to spend on a free agent?

Am I off base?

[Granath]

I for one am glad no move was made.  I didn't like trading assets for Horford or Howard.  It wasn't enough to win the championship and we can still go after Horford in the off-season along with Love, etc. if that is what DA wants to do.

Worst case scenario they cannot move any picks or sign a max player so they let some of the vets go, draft and stash, and then take a step back next year to really come on the following year with more high picks.  Eventually they will hit one or someone will come here via FA.

I am totally fine with not overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier stars.  I didn't expect Cle to move Love at the deadline.

I love keeping the BK pick and expect them to get a max guy in the off-season and then move a couple of the other picks before the draft (Dal/Philly/Celts).

TP. Horford and Howard just didn't excite me.

Al is a good player but he's a short-term, 30 year old rental who isn't the same player he was a couple of years ago. He would improve the team but I'm not convinced he'd be worth the cost as his game continues to decline.

Howard was much more cut-and-dried. Aging big men with back problems who rely on physicality for their game do not age gracefully. He's the kind of guy you could trade for, extend his contract and then watch his deal end up on the "worst contracts in the NBA in 2018" lists.

And since both were short term rentals the price on neither should have been much. But the public posturing of ATL and HOU made it sound like they were trying to get a return for these guys like it was 2011 and not 2016.

So where are we? In third place in the Eastern Conference, pacing towards 48-50 wins; with a young group of hungry above-average players on exceptionally cap-friendly contracts; with enough cap space to make a run at everyone and anyone this coming offseason; and loaded with draft picks that can be used, traded to move up, traded for future picks or used to stash talent overseas. Not a bad place to be.

[BornReady]

If the Cap is $89 mil next season, could Danny keep some of Sullinger/Zeller/Turner and still have room for a free agent?  Assuming Jerebko and Amir don't get their options picked up?

Celtics Payroll next season:

Avery 8.3 mil
Thomas 6.2
Crowder 7
Smart 4.5
Olynyk 3
Rozier 2
Young 2.8
Mickey 1.2
Hunter 1.2
-----------------  36.2
Turner  8
Zeller 7
Sullinger  12
------------------   36.2 + 27 = 63.2
Nets pick  4
Mavs pick 2
Celtics pick 1.2
Philly pick 1
-------------------- 63.2 + 8.2 = 71.4



That's 16 players, but like someone said above, you can draft a Euro and stash them or trade a pick for a future pick. If my math is correct, you could possibly keep all 3 of Turner/Zeller/Sullinger and still have  almost $20 million to spend on a free agent?

Am I off base?

Celtics could also trade up by using the BOS and Dallas pick to move up in the draft
which seems like a higher chance of happening
considering people are considering that this is a poor draft outside of simmons and ingram

[Surferdad]

I for one am glad no move was made.  I didn't like trading assets for Horford or Howard.  It wasn't enough to win the championship and we can still go after Horford in the off-season along with Love, etc. if that is what DA wants to do.

Worst case scenario they cannot move any picks or sign a max player so they let some of the vets go, draft and stash, and then take a step back next year to really come on the following year with more high picks.  Eventually they will hit one or someone will come here via FA.

I am totally fine with not overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier stars.  I didn't expect Cle to move Love at the deadline.

I love keeping the BK pick and expect them to get a max guy in the off-season and then move a couple of the other picks before the draft (Dal/Philly/Celts).

Yes keep the BK pick, but move those other picks for future higher picks. For example the Dallas pick and the Celts own pick will probably be in the 12-18 range. Package them for a pick that might be in the 8-12 range in a future year.