Celtics & Rockets discussing Howard trade

[PhoSita]

He fights child support and pays only what the court orders

How many men in that situation act differently?

Marcus Smart fights fans. Do you also have a problem with him?

Is this addressed to me or to feckless?

[Dino Pitino]

Beside the fact that Dwight has always underachieved-- he is not a rocket scientist nor someone you want to build a team around.  A supposed devout christian with 6 (some say 8 ) plus children buy 6+ different women.  Look up dwight howard and children and think if this is a leader who can be the core of the Celtics.  Sounds slimey and too stupid to me.

Well, it's ironic that he's a devout Christian, because evolutionarily that's a great strategy, to diversify his seed. Maybe the kids will be missing him as a father, but then again he's a mega-multi-millionaire so each of those kids will be materially set for life. Before you judge him for it, perhaps you should ask the mothers if they're happy to have procreated with Dwight Howard. I suspect they're quite happy. Genetically and financially, they hit the lottery in terms of father material. They're probably happier than we'd be if the Celtics won the Simmons Sweepstakes.

If you check there are multiple accounts of multiple lawsuits --being a lousy father and absolute disrespect for the women he has used and the children for whom he provides as little as the law allows.  He is by most accounts the worst kind of slime.

What does "as little as the law allows" mean?

He fights child support and pays only what the court orders--you implied he was generous and these kids were lucky to have him--I have not seen those accounts.

I did not imply he was generous. I said the kids were financially set for life. That's true even if he goes to court to pay as little as the law requires. The law requires him to pay a fortune. The mothers are happy, even if they're suing him and expressing unhappiness, because let's be real it's not like they'd rather have mated with Joe Schmo. Takes two to tango, they let themselves get pregnant, and they stayed pregnant, i.e., a choice.

The Celtics have always professed to be a franchise of values.  They have had a zero tolerance for "issues" and those who have been involved with the law have found themselves no longer C's.  Look up Sebastian Telfair and Orien Greene for examples.  I just find it hard to believe that someone with Dwight's character is someone you want to bring in as your best player/leader.

As someone pointed out above: Larry Bird, dude. The mother of his daughter might have screwed him over, but it's still the case that he iced out the daughter.

Furthermore, are you confident that you know about all the unorthodox paternity situations of every Celtics player? Because I wouldn't be. It's a personal matter. Most of the time I bet you never hear about it.

[feckless]

He fights child support and pays only what the court orders

How many men in that situation act differently?

If you really don't see the difference there is no point in discussing it.  Dwight Howard is a sleazebag, hypocrite and has no business being part of the Celtic's organization?  Look at the state of the Rocket's and think if the values of the players involved, the leadership players,  has contributed to what the season has brought.

Marcus Smart fights fans. Do you also have a problem with him?

If you really don't see the difference there is no point in discussing it.  Dwight Howard is a sleazebag, hypocrite and has no business being part of the Celtic's organization?  Look at the state of the Rocket's and think if the values of the players involved, the leadership players,  has contributed to what the season has brought.

[feckless]

Beside the fact that Dwight has always underachieved-- he is not a rocket scientist nor someone you want to build a team around.  A supposed devout christian with 6 (some say 8 ) plus children buy 6+ different women.  Look up dwight howard and children and think if this is a leader who can be the core of the Celtics.  Sounds slimey and too stupid to me.

Well, it's ironic that he's a devout Christian, because evolutionarily that's a great strategy, to diversify his seed. Maybe the kids will be missing him as a father, but then again he's a mega-multi-millionaire so each of those kids will be materially set for life. Before you judge him for it, perhaps you should ask the mothers if they're happy to have procreated with Dwight Howard. I suspect they're quite happy. Genetically and financially, they hit the lottery in terms of father material. They're probably happier than we'd be if the Celtics won the Simmons Sweepstakes.

If you check there are multiple accounts of multiple lawsuits --being a lousy father and absolute disrespect for the women he has used and the children for whom he provides as little as the law allows.  He is by most accounts the worst kind of slime.

What does "as little as the law allows" mean?

He fights child support and pays only what the court orders--you implied he was generous and these kids were lucky to have him--I have not seen those accounts.

I did not imply he was generous. I said the kids were financially set for life. That's true even if he goes to court to pay as little as the law requires. The law requires him to pay a fortune. The mothers are happy, even if they're suing him and expressing unhappiness, because let's be real it's not like they'd rather have mated with Joe Schmo. Takes two to tango, they let themselves get pregnant, and they stayed pregnant, i.e., a choice.

The Celtics have always professed to be a franchise of values.  They have had a zero tolerance for "issues" and those who have been involved with the law have found themselves no longer C's.  Look up Sebastian Telfair and Orien Greene for examples.  I just find it hard to believe that someone with Dwight's character is someone you want to bring in as your best player/leader.

As someone pointed out above: Larry Bird, dude. The mother of his daughter might have screwed him over, but it's still the case that he iced out the daughter.

Furthermore, are you confident that you know about all the unorthodox paternity situations of every Celtics player? Because I wouldn't be. It's a personal matter. Most of the time I bet you never hear about it.

8 kids 8 different women!  Take some responsibility -- what kind of man does that?

[feckless]

 

[Dino Pitino]

8 kids 8 different women!  Take some responsibility -- what kind of man does that?

The namesake of Danny Ainge's alma mater had kids with 16 different women. Like I said, it's a personal matter. Howard's kids aren't going to starve.

Frankly, though, I don't care how many kids he sires. Let him try to outdo Genghis Khan. As long as the kids are materially taken care of, and as long as he's outplaying the opposing center, then whatever.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Hey, if we can get Dwight Howard....maybe we can get McHale in here, to teach him some post moves...........er.

[manl_lui]

8 kids 8 different women!  Take some responsibility -- what kind of man does that?

The namesake of Danny Ainge's alma mater had kids with 16 different women. Like I said, it's a personal matter. Howard's kids aren't going to starve.

Frankly, though, I don't care how many kids he sires. Let him try to outdo Genghis Khan. As long as the kids are materially taken care of, and as long as he's outplaying the opposing center, then whatever.

how in the world did the topic about acquiring a player because of his skill set turn into acquiring a player because he's a nice guy come into play? I guess the Pats should re-sign Tebow cuz he's an awesome guy!

[Forza Juventus]

8 kids 8 different women!  Take some responsibility -- what kind of man does that?

The namesake of Danny Ainge's alma mater had kids with 16 different women. Like I said, it's a personal matter. Howard's kids aren't going to starve.

Frankly, though, I don't care how many kids he sires. Let him try to outdo Genghis Khan. As long as the kids are materially taken care of, and as long as he's outplaying the opposing center, then whatever.

how in the world did the topic about acquiring a player because of his skill set turn into acquiring a player because he's a nice guy come into play? I guess the Pats should re-sign Tebow cuz he's an awesome guy!

Because high horse

[JohnBoy65]

A supposed devout christian with 6 (some say 8 ) plus children buy 6+ different women.  Look up dwight howard and children and think if this is a leader who can be the core of the Celtics.  Sounds slimey and too stupid to me.

Man, good thing Wilt Chamberlain isn't on the trade market.

[Neurotic Guy]

Regarding Dwight Howard, we know only what the media reports and the snippets we see on TV.   Basically, none of us actually know Dwight Howard and we know far less about the happiness and lifestyle of his children and their mothers.   I understand that this medium allows for all sorts of judgements to be made and of course I understand that it makes sense that if you father that many children with that many women the likelihood of a nomination for father/boyfriend of the year is low.   

But this kind of speculation isn't necessary. He isn't running for president and he's not applying for a job to babysit your children or asking to date your daughter.   The less I know about the human beings that play for my favorite teams, or perform my favorite music, or act in my favorites shows/fims... the better.  They are entertainers and if they are good at it I am better off not knowing too much about them --  errr, unless they are murderers, rapists, wife-beaters or child-abusers.  Otherwise, I'll accept that they are flawed like all of us in their own way and hope they are fun to watch.

[moiso]

Howard lacks respect for toll booths!  We don't need that on this team

I agree that he's a hypocrite.  He's also very childlike, very phony, immature, etc.  I don't like him at all.  But if the price is right, I guess I'd be ok with aquiring him.

[LarBrd33]

Someone may have already said it, but our interest in Dwight could be posturing aimed at convincing Atlanta we have other options than Al Horford.

[heyvik]

Someone may have already said it, but our interest in Dwight could be posturing aimed at convincing Atlanta we have other options than Al Horford.

OR posturing aimed at convincing Houston that we have other options that Al Horford.....just saying.

[Forza Juventus]

Bulpett shot down the reports
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/celtics_insider/2016/02/bulpett_forget_dwight_howard_plus_other_celtics_truths