ESPN Article Saying the Wolves Might Be Interested in a PF

[Who]

Don't really want LaVine (backcourt crowded enough) or Mohammed (specialty player, not well rounded enough).

I would like Dieng though.

[PhoSita]

The 3 Wolves players I'm really interested in are almost certainly not available.


Maybe the Wolves should trade for Markieff.  He could be excellent next to Towns.

[Chief]

I thought the player they were peddling was Kevin Martin.

[moiso]

I think we overrate Dieng a bit around here. He'd basically just add to our pile of middling bigs, and I don't see him as much of an upgrade over Sullinger other than bringing a skill we don't have in our toolbox otherwise (shot blocking).

It's also worth noting that Dieng came into the NBA extremely late. He's 26, which makes him three years(!) older than Sullinger.

I find Muhammad much more intriguing.

I agree.  Last I knew Dieng's advanced defensive stats showed that he wasn't really a plus defender at all.

Lavine is the one I would take a chance on.  Athletic freak but his skills have come along tremendously over the last few years.  He could end up as a very good player.  It would take a lot more than Sullinger to get him.

[TheTruthFot18]

Sully is their Man, just give us Deing, or maybe even Shabaz.

I've been advocating to get these two for awhile. Shabaz can be a nice backup to Crowder and can provide bench scoring outside of KO. Dieng, while no Jordan, Gobert, Drummond, etc, is a defensive center who can hold down the paint.

Not a long term solution but if we're only giving up any of Sully/Zeller/Turner/Young/ Non-Brooklyn 1st's, let's do it.

Minny might be more open Dieng than Shabaz or Lavine. They have KAT and Pekovic (still recovering) at center while KG is the only real PF. Sully would definitely work out behind KG for 20-25 mins a night.

[Smitty77]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

[chilidawg]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

By RPM you'd be swapping two of the worst shooting guards in the league, so that's a net wash.  Martin is better offensively but terrible defensively.  Odds of Martin improving at this point in his career are slim.

By DRPM Sully is  a little better than Dieng, and he's significantly better offensively.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

I don't hate it. Dieng is a nice player, but he is already 26 and I'm beginning to wonder about how much more he can improve. Martin has been shooting so poorly this year that I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever regain his form. He was never fast, but he even looks a little slower. So players are playing up on him and he is unable to take advantage. Plus, with the way he shoots, he needs a lot of room to get a shot up.

I feel like we could get more for Sully, Zeller, and Turner.

I'd rather bug them for Lavine or Bazz

[Smitty77]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

By RPM you'd be swapping two of the worst shooting guards in the league, so that's a net wash.  Martin is better offensively but terrible defensively.  Odds of Martin improving at this point in his career are slim.

By DRPM Sully is  a little better than Dieng, and he's significantly better offensively.

My first question would be, Has EITHER Dieng or Martin EVER played for a good coach in Minny???  The answer is NO.  Certainly not a Brad Stevens' level coach!!!  Secondly, Dieng is having a bad year.  But, Dieng has some incredible athletic ability that hopefully we can harness!!  We would have a chance to have him locked up very cheaply for two years after this one at 2.35 and 3.39 million respectively.

Sully has been TERRIBLE defensively of late in our small line-ups.  (See Kevin's great front page article!!!)

Smitty77

[walker834]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

By RPM you'd be swapping two of the worst shooting guards in the league, so that's a net wash.  Martin is better offensively but terrible defensively.  Odds of Martin improving at this point in his career are slim.

By DRPM Sully is  a little better than Dieng, and he's significantly better offensively.

My first question would be, Has EITHER Dieng or Martin EVER played for a good coach in Minny???  The answer is NO.  Certainly not a Brad Stevens' level coach!!!  Secondly, Dieng is having a bad year.  But, Dieng has some incredible athletic ability that hopefully we can harness!!  We would have a chance to have him locked up very cheaply for two years after this one at 2.35 and 3.39 million respectively.

Sully has been TERRIBLE defensively of late in our small line-ups.  (See Kevin's great front page article!!!)

Smitty77

The issue with this is the same can be said about a lot of players.  I like Dieng. Martin is what he is.  The upside with these players is not that great.  We can draft more talented players that have never played for a great coach.

[LilRip]

If there's anyone in Minny to trade for, it's gotta be Dieng. He's buried in the rotation which makes him a buy-low candidate, but he has the talent to break out in the right system. Shabazz would be good too, I suppose. I wouldn't want Lavine because our backcourt is already so good. KAT and Wiggins are pretty much untouchable.

[walker834]

Dieng as it stands I'm not sold on his ceiling. He reminds me too much of Amir johnson in ways with better upside probably.  I don't see him necessarily as a championship player.  He's on that fringe and a good player though. This move reminds of the phoenix suns and I know why.  It doesn't seem like it's pushing it enough for Boston.

Dieng was a really good player at Louisville though. I like him as a player.  But his upside is somewhat questionable. He's a better version of Amir potentially but right now he's not much better.

It makes sense for both teams but not so much for us I feel.  I think we are selling ourselves short.

[Smitty77]

Dieng as it stands I'm not sold on his ceiling. He reminds me too much of Amir johnson in ways with better upside probably.  I don't see him necessarily as a championship player.  He's on that fringe and a good player though. This move reminds of the phoenix suns and I know why.  It doesn't seem like it's pushing it enough for Boston.

Dieng was a really good player at Louisville though. I like him as a player.  But his upside is somewhat questionable. He's a better version of Amir potentially but right now he's not much better.

It makes sense for both teams but not so much for us I feel.  I think we are selling ourselves short.

But Dieng does NOT have chronic foot and ankle problems like my friend Amir!!!

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

Sully, ET, and Zeller for Kevin Martin and Dieng works on realgm.com tradechecker and it makes sense for both teams!!

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6652105

This give us our outside marksman that we NEED and a nice possible reclamation project that Brad is SO GOOD at in Dieng (and yes, he HAS REGRESSED this year!!)!!!

We also clear out the front court slightly, get rid of our WORST low post defender (calling Sully a "defender" is a JOKE!!!) and the nightmare of having to re-sign TUBBY.  We also get rid of Zeller (who I LIKE) that we are simply NOT using.  We lastly get rid of ET (I like him when he does NOT shoot threes and is not a turnover machine) to clear room up for Smart to get more minutes NOW that he is EARNING them!!!

The only drawback is that Kmart will likely be owed $7.4 million next year, but with the cap increase, that is really not that bad, especially IF we can get Kmart back close to his career averages!!!

Thoughts??

Smitty77

By RPM you'd be swapping two of the worst shooting guards in the league, so that's a net wash.  Martin is better offensively but terrible defensively.  Odds of Martin improving at this point in his career are slim.

By DRPM Sully is  a little better than Dieng, and he's significantly better offensively.

My first question would be, Has EITHER Dieng or Martin EVER played for a good coach in Minny???  The answer is NO.  Certainly not a Brad Stevens' level coach!!!  Secondly, Dieng is having a bad year.  But, Dieng has some incredible athletic ability that hopefully we can harness!!  We would have a chance to have him locked up very cheaply for two years after this one at 2.35 and 3.39 million respectively.

Sully has been TERRIBLE defensively of late in our small line-ups.  (See Kevin's great front page article!!!)

Smitty77

The issue with this is the same can be said about a lot of players.  I like Dieng. Martin is what he is.  The upside with these players is not that great.  We can draft more talented players that have never played for a great coach.

The fact of the matter is that we are likely going to lose Sully for nothing to free agency as I simply do NOT see Danny paying him $13 million to start.  We are NOT playing Tyler and getting rid of ET is worth it just to FORCE Brad to have to play Marcus more minutes.

Smitty77

P.S. Maybe we should give them their seconds back and ask for a top 10 protected first rounder:-))

[LooseCannon]

If there's anyone in Minny to trade for, it's gotta be Dieng. He's buried in the rotation which makes him a buy-low candidate, but he has the talent to break out in the right system. Shabazz would be good too, I suppose. I wouldn't want Lavine because our backcourt is already so good. KAT and Wiggins are pretty much untouchable.

How can he be buried in the rotation if he is 4th on the team in minutes?  He's not starting, but he is getting more playing time than Kevin Garnett, who is starting.