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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2016, 03:35:31 AM »

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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2016, 03:47:13 AM »

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The one thing I'll say is that Rodney Hood had the weirdest least publicised concern I've ever heard of... He had a vomiting issue at multiple workouts

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16. Chicago: Rodney Hood, F, Duke

Hood had some bizarre workouts in the past few weeks that included interruptions because of vomiting, something that apparently was also an issue at Duke. But otherwise he has produced and made a positive impression. The Bulls need a swingman they can pair with Jimmy Butler.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/06/25/gary-washburn-mock-nba-draft/36ueCQT1B1qgDso7zNL84I/story.html

I'm not claiming to say that's why Ainge passed on him but it is, in my opinion, the reason a consensus top 10 prospect at one point fell to 23rd.

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2016, 04:46:01 AM »

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 Yes. It does. Young=Garbage

Still too early to say. Young is currently the same age as Hood was coming into the league. In 3 years time let's see if Young averages 13 pts per game..

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2016, 05:01:16 AM »

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The one thing I'll say is that Rodney Hood had the weirdest least publicised concern I've ever heard of... He had a vomiting issue at multiple workouts

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16. Chicago: Rodney Hood, F, Duke

Hood had some bizarre workouts in the past few weeks that included interruptions because of vomiting, something that apparently was also an issue at Duke. But otherwise he has produced and made a positive impression. The Bulls need a swingman they can pair with Jimmy Butler.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/06/25/gary-washburn-mock-nba-draft/36ueCQT1B1qgDso7zNL84I/story.html

I'm not claiming to say that's why Ainge passed on him but it is, in my opinion, the reason a consensus top 10 prospect at one point fell to 23rd.

Shouldn't the franchise with the most prolific, most famous, and greatest vomiter in NBA history have seen that as a good omen?
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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2016, 07:29:00 AM »

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Role player = a miss?

CB logic  ;)

I don't subscribe to this, just actual logic. Have a look here:

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/playergamelog?playerId=2581177

Do these point / assist / rebound totals for the minutes played say role player? Not to me -- they say "good player".

Or maybe you didn't bother to check.
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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2016, 07:48:48 AM »

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 Yes. It does. Young=Garbage

Still too early to say. Young is currently the same age as Hood was coming into the league. In 3 years time let's see if Young averages 13 pts per game..

I don't mean to nitpick, but Young is the same age as Hood was when Hood was sitting out a year after transferring to Duke.  In the 2017/2018 season, Young will be the age that Hood was when he was a rookie.  Young is still our youngest player by more than a year.  I'm just trying to put things into proper perspective.  We still need to be patient with him.

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2016, 07:59:02 AM »

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 Yes. It does. Young=Garbage

Still too early to say. Young is currently the same age as Hood was coming into the league. In 3 years time let's see if Young averages 13 pts per game..

I don't mean to nitpick, but Young is the same age as Hood was when Hood was sitting out a year after transferring to Duke.  In the 2017/2018 season, Young will be the age that Hood was when he was a rookie.  Young is still our youngest player by more than a year.  I'm just trying to put things into proper perspective.  We still need to be patient with him.
Thank you for the clarification, TP! Enhances my point though, you can't ignore the age difference when you compare production. Young has plenty of time to develop into a good player

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2016, 08:17:04 AM »

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 Yes. It does. Young=Garbage

Still too early to say. Young is currently the same age as Hood was coming into the league. In 3 years time let's see if Young averages 13 pts per game..

I don't mean to nitpick, but Young is the same age as Hood was when Hood was sitting out a year after transferring to Duke.  In the 2017/2018 season, Young will be the age that Hood was when he was a rookie.  Young is still our youngest player by more than a year.  I'm just trying to put things into proper perspective.  We still need to be patient with him.
Thank you for the clarification, TP! Enhances my point though, you can't ignore the age difference when you compare production. Young has plenty of time to develop into a good player

I agree.  When you look at guys like Bulter and Middleton, I'd be worried about giving up on Young too early.

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2016, 08:18:29 AM »

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I wanted Hood at the time also.  And I'm sure if Ainge had the benefit of watching Young and Hood for an extra season and a half he would go with Hood if he could do it over.  Unfortunately most of the time there will be better players drafted behind whoever a GM drafts.

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2016, 09:29:12 AM »

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How many times does Ainge have to blatantly miss on picks considering players taken afterwards for folks to admit it's a weakness and a concern? The whole "hindsight is 20 / 20" argument wears thin. It's part of the job, and a variety of lower quality NBA GMs seem to be out-scouting the Celtics.

Is it because it's painful to admit? Or because it's a helpless issue?

It's happened virtually every year since the Big 3 era started...
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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2016, 09:35:42 AM »

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How many times does Ainge have to blatantly miss on picks considering players taken afterwards for folks to admit it's a weakness and a concern? The whole "hindsight is 20 / 20" argument wears thin. It's part of the job, and a variety of lower quality NBA GMs seem to be out-scouting the Celtics.

Is it because it's painful to admit? Or because it's a helpless issue?

It's happened virtually every year since the Big 3 era started...
If you hit on 1 in 5 of your mid to late 1st round picks you're doing a good job. No one hits those guys consistently.
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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2016, 10:01:40 AM »

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Hood was always going to be the safe pick. Ainge went for the home run. So far it looks like he whiffed.
Ainge can't win. 

He makes the safe pick with KO instead of a very raw Giannis and is getting crucified by the "hindsight 20/20" group and when he take a riskier player in the high teens, he still gets crucified.  not to mention all the hoopla about why he should have swung for the fences with any one of our picks this past year on Robert Upshaw (including a number of people who wanted to use #16 on him)

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2016, 10:25:33 AM »

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We need a thread specifically for people to complain about "missed draft picks". It's pretty frustrating to see these posts pop up once a week with Danny Missed Again: <insert player who just had a great game here> topic titles. It's the draft, it is hard to predict how these KIDS will develop, and if we are going to play this game we are going to go mad over every Butler, Thomas, Green, Ginobli etc. that we "miss".

Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2016, 10:32:24 AM »

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We need a thread specifically for people to complain about "missed draft picks". It's pretty frustrating to see these posts pop up once a week with Danny Missed Again: <insert player who just had a great game here> topic titles. It's the draft, it is hard to predict how these KIDS will develop, and if we are going to play this game we are going to go mad over every Butler, Thomas, Green, Ginobli etc. that we "miss".

Here's my tip: check who made the thread.  It's usually the same posters going on about the same players who aren't even anything special.
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Re: Another Draft Miss: Rodney Hood
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2016, 11:25:04 AM »

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Role player = a miss?

CB logic  ;)

I don't subscribe to this, just actual logic. Have a look here:

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/playergamelog?playerId=2581177

Do these point / assist / rebound totals for the minutes played say role player? Not to me -- they say "good player".

Or maybe you didn't bother to check.
This tongue and cheek? Those are absolutely role player numbers or less. We call our own C's players a bunch of role players and a good majority are way better than Hood.