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Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2016, 05:13:48 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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Today is a day a lot of guys who were restricted free agents and signed contracts can finally be moved... guys like Khris Middleton.  Dunno if he'll be moved, but he can.

Still need to wait until Feb 1st for Gallo to be tradeable. 

Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2016, 09:44:52 AM »

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I'm calling it right now.  No starting caliber players get moved at this deadline. 

All the good teams out west will stand pat, and too many teams in the east are playing well enough not to tinker.  With everyone getting cap space this summer, no need to make a risky decision (like deal with Ainge).
It seems today there is more chatter. Mosgov, TysonChandler, Lawson, Gay and with the suns sinking Morris is gone. Once the first trade drops more seem to follow.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016, 10:17:53 AM »

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I am REALLY anxious to see what this trade deadline looks like.  I really don't know what to expect. 

The landscape in the league seems like it is quite a bit different than in previous season leaving so many questions to be elaborated on in the coming weeks.  With the tight bunch of teams currently fighting for the playoffs in the east, and the surprisingly large pile of disappointing teams in the West will there be enough sellers to pair with buyers?  How will the rising cap affect valuations?  Will teams be willing to part with players who are under contract for 2 – 4 years into the future, or will any future contract certainty command a huge premium to acquire?  Does that mean there will be a bunch of expiring for expiring "shuffling the deck chairs" moves instead? 

The teams I will most closely be keeping my eye on will be:

New Orleans – Since drafting Anthony Davis this team has done about as bad a job as possible putting a team core around him.  They came into the season with playoff expectations and have been pretty awful to date.  The GM and new coach probably both under pressure to perform to still have jobs next season.  I expect they will make some moves to either a) make a fleeting run at the playoffs, or b) make moves for the future by shipping out the expiring contracts of Eric Gordon and/or Ryan Anderson (who seems to be pretty in demand across the league), or unloading that albatross of a contract they handed to Omir "stone hands" Asik this past summer.

Phoenix – Team is currently a smoldering dumpster fire of disappointing play and locker room discontent.  Couple that with a notoriously impatient owner, and I think moves are very likely.  Pretty much everyone's job on this team is up in the air, and I'd say anyone aside from Devin Booker could be traded before the deadline.  I think Markieff Morris will definitely be moved.  Do they dump Tyson Chandler for some value now since he is a bit old for the trajectory of the rest of the roster?  Do they trade Brandon Knight and go completely in the tank this season knowing that they have Eric Bledsoe coming back next season, OR do they go completely in the opposite direction and trade Eric Bledsoe to team in need of a future PG (similar to the Andrew Bogut trade GSW made a few years back) for an asset at a different position of which Phoenix needs many.

Miami – I kind of think they will move Hassan Whiteside for value before the deadline, rather than risk losing him in the summer.  I don't think he is key to their playoff run this year, but he is a great asset to have stumbled on for absolutely free.  They also have Justise Winslow (I expect they will end up keeping him), who would be a primo asset to package in the unlikely event of a blockbuster coming on the market before the deadline passes.

Washington – disappointing team that started the year with expectations, but at current rate looks to either miss the playoffs all together, or sputter out with a whimper.  I could see them wanting to make some changes in order to allow the team to make a 2nd half playoff push.

Houston – Morey can't like how this team is playing given that the Rockets fancied themselves as title contenders this year.  They really only have one scorer on the team, and a lot of interesting youngish players they probably can move.  I think they will shuffle the roster a bit, even if the moves aren't mind blowing. 

Boston – we have a lot of delicious appetizers over here.  Anyone want to trade one main course for them? Anyone?  Please?  I assure you they are really good.   I actually don't expect much from the C's until the summer, but since this is Celticsblog I had to include a comment on them too.

Other teams I'll be watching to a lesser extent are Indiana (add one more piece), Detroit (Brandon Jennings trade), Milwaukee (address PG of the future, or stay married to MCW), Minnesota (do they move Ricky Rubio) and Sacramento (crazy GM + insane owner = unpredictable trades; no not Cousins though).

Long story short, I'm excited about this year's trade season, and I could be wrong but I don't think it will be a total dud.
nice summary - TP

I think the likeliest buyer is Miami where they're in win-now mode and have a couple of pieces that could fetch a decent haul of rotation players (like what Boston could provide).  Whiteside and Winslow could each bring in 1-2 rotation players that fill gaps on their bench without hurting Miami's core.

Say Whiteside and Winslow for  (just talent based, not counting the $ balancing) Zeller, Lee, JJ and Turner.  Quantity for Quality might be a feasible thing for these teams.  Probably have to take a bad deal back from Miami to balance the $.
Each of those guys would solidify Miami's bench.  C's would get a look at Whiteside to see if he's worth keeping for next year and Danny finally gets his binkie in Winslow.  C's would not be giving up a 'core' player and should solidify their chances of getting in the playoffs this year.

"Just talent based, not counting the $ balancing."

You forgot to include the "talent" part. I just see the "$ balancing" portion of the deal.

Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2016, 11:21:31 AM »

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If we don't make a splash trade, I'm looking for these teams as our most likely trade partners. The reasoning behind this is recent history of mutual trades and good relations with opposing clubs/GM's.

Memphis, Phoenix, Golden State, Oklahoma and Houston.

Now this is only if we make some smaller trades for the future, and it does't include other teams who presumably needs or will make a trade.
So, if we take that into consideration, looking at their rosters, what possible player can we get to make us a little better team in a short time and possibly an even much better in the future (of course this means that we keep our BKN pick and most of our other precious assets).

Memphis: Zach Randolph is removed a couple of years from being really impact player, so I'm not considering him a big fish any more. Think he would be very welcomed in Boston, obviously he can still play (as we saw against us), he could be a double double machine for the rest of the year helping us make some noise in PO (plus one more year). Not interested in others. 

Phoenix: Alex Len, Mirza Teletović and TJ Warren are good players and would def be an improvement of our team. I'm not including Chandler (think can still play but that contract is no good), Booker (he's a keeper) and Morris (headache) into consideration.

Golden State: I like Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli but I don't know what would be the price tag. If I have to choose, I would rather go with Ezeli letting him to show his full potential (maybe a cheaper version of Hassan Whiteside?).

Oklahoma: maybe Steven Adams, but he's their starting center, so don't know how that could materialize... I'll skip Kanter...

Houston: wow, maybe Capela, Mcdaniels, D-Mo, Jones, Dekker? I don't know, they are a mess of a team...
 

Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2016, 11:47:01 AM »

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Today is a day a lot of guys who were restricted free agents and signed contracts can finally be moved... guys like Khris Middleton.  Dunno if he'll be moved, but he can.

Still need to wait until Feb 1st for Gallo to be tradeable.
good to know

Thanks

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Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2016, 01:12:16 PM »

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I hope we can bring in a 4 or 5. I keep watching the games that we lose or are close and think, why was this not a blow out win? usually 3 out of the 4 of IT, AB, MS and JC play well. Its the bigs, thats where we need an upgrade.

Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2016, 09:55:03 AM »

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I hope we can bring in a 4 or 5. I keep watching the games that we lose or are close and think, why was this not a blow out win? usually 3 out of the 4 of IT, AB, MS and JC play well. Its the bigs, thats where we need an upgrade.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2016, 09:28:28 PM »

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The Celtics have to make something happen with this roster. I would overpay a little on a 4-for-1 to get back a starter caliber player just to unclog the roster and force some minutes for our youngsters and figure out what the future of the team is going to be.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2015 - 2016
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2016, 01:01:38 PM »

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Hawks had been soliciting offers for Teague or Dennis Schroder, per rival execs. Though recently they have focused more on Teague.

Rumor mill is churning a little bit today.  Hawks are supposedly shopping both Teague and Schroder.  The Teague piece is pretty surprising to me.  Maybe they figure they'll move which ever PG they are able to get better relative value for.  Teague would be an interesting fit on a number of teams.