Kelly for Ryan Anderson

[walker834]

Been posting a lot today but this is one trade I would consider.  I thought with Bradley out tonight we really lacked another guy besides Isaiah who can knock down shots.  Kelly is kind of a similar player but I don't think I've ever seen Kelly hit a big shot yet at the end of games. He's young. He's developing.  I don't see the point in moves like this overly.  I'd rather just develop our own guys, but Ryan Anderson basically is that guy who could be another go to scorer imo at the end of games.

The Pelicans supposedly want a starting caliber player in return.  Kelly and a pick would probably get it done.

I just noticed that though.  Detroit had Reggie Jackson and got a big shot from Stanley Johnson. OUr young shooters weren't hitting and we were without bradley.  We went to KO at the end to knock down a shot and we lost.

[TheSundanceKid]

I wouldn't trade Kelly for Anderson straight up. Anderson is a free agent this summer, Kelly is cost controlled for another year. Anderson isn't taking us to the next level. He's also a poor defender, an area Kelly has greatly improved on and hopefully will continue to do so.

We all need to remember that we aren't about to start making small moves to move towards contention. We are still in the development stage, waiting for a big star to become available and go all in on. Then we might start looking for veteran complementary pieces to go alongside that star. At this point in time trading our youth for complementary veterans seems wasteful and short sighted

[CroCorvus]

No.

[SHAQATTACK]

Crazy

[Moranis]

I wouldn't trade Kelly for Anderson straight up. Anderson is a free agent this summer, Kelly is cost controlled for another year. Anderson isn't taking us to the next level. He's also a poor defender, an area Kelly has greatly improved on and hopefully will continue to do so.

We all need to remember that we aren't about to start making small moves to move towards contention. We are still in the development stage, waiting for a big star to become available and go all in on. Then we might start looking for veteran complementary pieces to go alongside that star. At this point in time trading our youth for complementary veterans seems wasteful and short sighted

and waiting around for a star that may never come seems silly. As does lingering in the middle.  I'm not saying I would trade KO for Anderson, but at least it would show Ainge is picking a direction and going with it.  This hovering around the middle nonsense is getting old.

[jambr380]

At this stage of their careers, Anderson is clearly a better go-to option than Kelly, but Kelly does bring the added components of playmaking / passing - either by driving into the lane or in the high post. He really had some nice set-ups in the first half when our offense was stagnant.

Unfortunately because of his instinct to create for others, he sometimes looks awkward doing it for himself and will likely never have the confidence of Ryan Anderson. We see it in spurts, but not consistently yet. Still, I think I like the added dimensions of Kelly's game more than Anderson.

[TheSundanceKid]

I wouldn't trade Kelly for Anderson straight up. Anderson is a free agent this summer, Kelly is cost controlled for another year. Anderson isn't taking us to the next level. He's also a poor defender, an area Kelly has greatly improved on and hopefully will continue to do so.

We all need to remember that we aren't about to start making small moves to move towards contention. We are still in the development stage, waiting for a big star to become available and go all in on. Then we might start looking for veteran complementary pieces to go alongside that star. At this point in time trading our youth for complementary veterans seems wasteful and short sighted

and waiting around for a star that may never come seems silly. As does lingering in the middle.  I'm not saying I would trade KO for Anderson, but at least it would show Ainge is picking a direction and going with it.  This hovering around the middle nonsense is getting old.

I don't think it's hovering. There's a window for Ainge to make a big move. He can't use all his draft picks and the contracts he has will begin to expire. But the window isn't closing yet, in my mind he has 3 paths for trades:

1) Lee's contract to make a package before the deadline. At the moment it looks unlikely he'd get a big fish but who knows
2) Draft night he will have picks with known value as well as Johnson and Jerebko on non-guaranteed deals
3) 2016 Free Agency

If all 3 fail to produce something then the window begins to close and he either commits to building a contender by taking risks on players who look like they are on the verge of stardom or he cashes in the assets and goes full rebuild around Smart and whoever the Nets pick lands.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The fascination for Ryan Anderson, furthermore, a Ryan Anderson on an expiring contract around this forum honestly baffle me completely.

[Al91]

When Kelly stops pump-faking himself out of good shots we'll see more of the great flashes Kelly has given us this season. He has had some great games thus far, big scoring games. He played so well at one point of this young season that I kept hoping more offense would be run through him, that he would start taking more and more shots.

At this stage of their careers, Anderson is clearly a better go-to option than Kelly, but Kelly does bring the added components of playmaking / passing - either by driving into the lane or in the high post. He really had some nice set-ups in the first half when our offense was stagnant.

While Anderson may be ready for a "win-now" team today, our team isn't a "win-now" team. Generally, I think of possible trade moves with Cleveland in consideration. Not saying we tank until LeBron is a shell of himself, but realistically I think making a move on a guy with an expiring contract who is closer to the end of his career than the beginning is a bad idea for a team that can't win a game against a healthy Cleveland team. Anderson wouldn't make them beatable.

[slamtheking]

I wouldn't trade Kelly for Anderson straight up. Anderson is a free agent this summer, Kelly is cost controlled for another year. Anderson isn't taking us to the next level. He's also a poor defender, an area Kelly has greatly improved on and hopefully will continue to do so.

We all need to remember that we aren't about to start making small moves to move towards contention. We are still in the development stage, waiting for a big star to become available and go all in on. Then we might start looking for veteran complementary pieces to go alongside that star. At this point in time trading our youth for complementary veterans seems wasteful and short sighted

and waiting around for a star that may never come seems silly. As does lingering in the middle.  I'm not saying I would trade KO for Anderson, but at least it would show Ainge is picking a direction and going with it.  This hovering around the middle nonsense is getting old.

Exactly how long do you think we've been "hovering around the middle"?

Let's take a look at this.  Hmm, until the KG/PP trade, we were shooting for a title challenge.  We trade them, get great picks and then we're mediocre.  ok, a season and a half of Rondo and Green as team leaders going nowhere.  could even argue that roster was less than mediocre.

Ainge then shakes it up less than halfway through last season to, theoretically, make the team worse by moving Rondo and Green for basically picks and journeymen (Crowder's blooming not withstanding).  No one could reasonably expected the improved play but Ainge saw the upswing and made the deal for IT.  Again, team is on the upswing to the point of making the playoffs. 

Draft night, tried to swing a deal to move up in the draft but unsuccessful in getting Charlotte to budge.  Able to move the corpse of Gerald Wallace for David Lee -  a talent upgrade regardless of what Lee has done so far on the court.  Team is above .500 which is better than last year with the prospect of a top 3 pick being added to this roster next season in addition to any FAs he may be able to sign. 

How exactly are we "hovering around the middle"? -- nevermind to the point where you feel it's gotten old.

[Greenback]

There are plenty of players and draft picks the Celtics could trade for Ryan Anderson.

He would immediately be the best shooter on the team.

[danglertx]

... we really lacked another guy besides Isaiah who can knock down shots.  Kelly is kind of a similar player but I don't think I've ever seen Kelly hit a big shot yet at the end of games. He's young. He's developing.

Anderson's 3pt% 36  Olynyk's 3pt% 39

As for big shots, have you seen Anderson hit big shots?   Kelly did knock down a big three late in a game this year to ice it, but if you mean last possession as time is running out to win or tie I agree, he is probably 0-4 or five.

[PhoSita]

Anderson is so bad on defense that trading Kelly for him would be a downgrade.

[Moranis]

I wouldn't trade Kelly for Anderson straight up. Anderson is a free agent this summer, Kelly is cost controlled for another year. Anderson isn't taking us to the next level. He's also a poor defender, an area Kelly has greatly improved on and hopefully will continue to do so.

We all need to remember that we aren't about to start making small moves to move towards contention. We are still in the development stage, waiting for a big star to become available and go all in on. Then we might start looking for veteran complementary pieces to go alongside that star. At this point in time trading our youth for complementary veterans seems wasteful and short sighted

and waiting around for a star that may never come seems silly. As does lingering in the middle.  I'm not saying I would trade KO for Anderson, but at least it would show Ainge is picking a direction and going with it.  This hovering around the middle nonsense is getting old.

Exactly how long do you think we've been "hovering around the middle"?

Let's take a look at this.  Hmm, until the KG/PP trade, we were shooting for a title challenge.  We trade them, get great picks and then we're mediocre.  ok, a season and a half of Rondo and Green as team leaders going nowhere.  could even argue that roster was less than mediocre.

Ainge then shakes it up less than halfway through last season to, theoretically, make the team worse by moving Rondo and Green for basically picks and journeymen (Crowder's blooming not withstanding).  No one could reasonably expected the improved play but Ainge saw the upswing and made the deal for IT.  Again, team is on the upswing to the point of making the playoffs. 

Draft night, tried to swing a deal to move up in the draft but unsuccessful in getting Charlotte to budge.  Able to move the corpse of Gerald Wallace for David Lee -  a talent upgrade regardless of what Lee has done so far on the court.  Team is above .500 which is better than last year with the prospect of a top 3 pick being added to this roster next season in addition to any FAs he may be able to sign. 

How exactly are we "hovering around the middle"? -- nevermind to the point where you feel it's gotten old.

The Celtics haven't been a contender in 4 seasons and haven't ever bottomed out.  That is the middle.

[Birdman]

The fascination for Ryan Anderson, furthermore, a Ryan Anderson on an expiring contract around this forum honestly baffle me completely.

same here