Post Your 3 Best Celtics Trade Ideas

[Denis998]

1. Bring in Brad's Golden Boy
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Gordon Hayward, Trevor Booker, Raul Nato to Boston

David Lee, Terry Rozier, James Young, 2016 Boston 1st, 2016 Dallas 1st, 2016 Philly 2nd to Utah

Boston gets its versatile go-to wing and Brad Stevens Golden Boy.

Utah bottoms out after an injury plagued season to add more talent to their young team. They restock with picks and young talent. They continue to play guys like Hood, Burke and Whitey big minutes to develop.

2. The Boston Native
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Nerlens Noel and Jerami Grant to Boston

Jared Sullinger, Terry Rozier, James Young, 2016 Boston 1st, 2018 Nets 1st, 2016 Philly 2nd

The process is failing. Philly rebuilds trust with fans by acquiring a big that can play next to Okafor and young guards that could actually develop into NBA players rather than pay D-Leaguers to lose. They get nice 2016 and 2018 draft picks for giving up Noel.

Boston cashes in on young picks and talent to acquire the rare and magical "Rim-Protector".

3. The Big Iffy
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Markeiff Morris to Boston

Jared Sullinger, Tyler Zeller, Jonas Jerbko to Phoenix

Phoenix gets the bird rights to 3 bigs for a half a season try out and dumps their trouble maker.

Boston consolidates bigs and clears the front court log jam.

I changed my mind, let's make all 3 work at once.

1. Bring in Brad's Golden Boy
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Gordon Hayward, Trevor Booker, Raul Nato to Boston

David Lee, Terry Rozier, Evan Turner, 2016 Dallas 1st, 2018 Boston 1st, 2016 Philly 2nd, and 2017 Los Angels 2nd to Utah


2. The Boston Native
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Nerlens Noel and Jerami Grant to Boston

Jared Sullinger, James Young, 2016 Boston 1st, 2016 Minnesota 1st, 2018 Nets 1st, 2016 Philly 2nd, 2017 Cleveland 2nd to Philly


3. The Big Iffy
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Markeiff Morris to Boston

Tyler Zeller, Jonas Jerbko, 2016 Cleveland 2nd, and 2019 Detroit 2nd to Phoenix

Celtics Depth Chart after trades:

Smart/Bradley/Hayward/Johnson/Noel
Thomas/Hunter/Crowder/Morris/Olynyk
Pressey (sign)/Thornton (after contract is up)/Grant/Holmes (sign)/Mickey

Still have:

2016 Nets 1st, Dallas 2nd, Miami 2nd

Draft Ingram and Payton III sell the other pick

i like your third idea, but i think giving up jerebko and zellar is more than enough.

[Irish Stew]

This is what I've come up with at the moment:


1. Free Hezonja!

Orlando is flush with wing players but they lack point guard depth and their frontcourt is a bit of a mess.  Hezonja is playing a paltry 13 minutes per game off the bench and lacks a clear path to more playing time with Fournier and Harris in front.

Boston has too much depth (redundant bench-caliber talent) in the frontcourt and desperately lacks shooting and potential on the wing.  Recent draft pick Terry Rozier is dominating the D-League but has no clear path to a rotation spot in Boston.


Orlando sends Nicholson, Frye, and Hezonja

Boston sends Sullinger, Johnson, and Rozier plus BOS 2016 1st, DAL 2016 1st


The Celtics add talent / potential plus shooting and size on the wing in Hezonja.  They also avoid taking a long term cap space gamble on Jared Sullinger, an upcoming restricted free agent.  They take on Andrew Nicholson, also an upcoming FA, who has less talent and potential but is a safer bet if they choose to sign him to a multiyear deal. 

The Magic add a veteran big man who Coach Skiles will probably love.  Amir might thrive playing beside Vucevic, or he might succeed coming off the bench.  Sullinger gives the Magic a quality rebounder and decent defender to bring off the bench.  Rozier could compete with Shabazz Napier for the backup point guard spot, and maybe even win the starting spot from Elfrid Payton if his jumpshot proves reliable and he shows he can run the offense.

The Magic also pick up two 1st round picks, at least one of which might end up in the late lottery, and dump Channing Frye's contract.



2. Send Us The Rooster

Boston sends David Lee, James Young, and DAL 2016 1st

Denver sends Danilo Gallinari and Randy Foye

This one is pretty simple.  The Celts use Lee's expiring contract to make salary work and send the Nuggets an athletic wing prospect that could thrive in a fast-paced high scoring system, along with a draft pick likely to fall in the middle of the 1st round.

In return, the Nuggets send out 27 year old Gallinari, a productive swing forward scorer / shooter who doesn't really fit the team's current timeline due to his age, picking up some decent future assets and clearing cap space.

It's a bit of a gamble for the Celts since who knows what Young's upside is or where that Mavs pick will ultimately fall. Danilo also has a troubling history of injuries.  On the other hand, Danilo offers the Celts a lot of things they currently lack, particularly a player with good size and excellent scoring and floor spacing ability for his position.


3. At Least Let's Get A Shooter

Boston sends Jonas Jerebko + 2nd (just pick one of the many 2016 2nds other than PHI)

Minnesota sends Kevin Martin

Jerebko has been a nice role player for the Celts, but he's better as a big man than as a wing, and the Celts have too many of those at the moment.  What the Celts need is a wing who can shoot and get to the line.  Kevin Martin fits the bill, though he's on the older side now.

The T-Wolves dump a guy who isn't even in their rotation right now because they have younger players who need minutes and pick up a psuedo-expiring contract and a 2nd rounder in return.  If they want, they can keep Jerebko around for another year.

  In trade #1, whatever little interior defense we have just left town. That's not a problem if we're still more interested in asset accumulation rather than team configuration. Frye, Nicholson and Olynyk seem pretty similar to me. Having said that, the trade seems fair to both teams and  Hezonja has huge upside. In spite of the glut at that position, I wonder if Orlando is ready to move on so soon.        In trade #2, I think that you are going to have to substitute Hunter for Young and possibly Celtics 2016 for Dallas 2016 to get Denver interested. I'm not sure Young has real trade value anymore.     Trade #3 is the kind of deal a contender makes to strengthen their rotation for a title run. IMO, it's to early in our rebuild.

[ssspence]

How many 4 team trades have happened in the history of the league?

You mean four team Dwight Howard trades? Just one. But I think he's only been traded once so...

[Csfan1984]

Trade 1. Favors and Hayward for Lee, AJ, KO, Nets, Dallas and C's pick. Jazz can go full draft mode with all the additional picks. C's get more scoring and the Center they need. And even if its horrible to see the Nets pick go two birds in the hand are better than an egg in the bush.

Trade 2. Marc Gasol for IT, AJ, Grizz pick returned, 2016 C's 1st and 2018 Nets pick. Grizz can move on from Conley I would hate to see them overpaying him. And they get some picks and flexibility back. C's get a big interior upgrade in Marc over AJ. C's have a ton of picks so dealing a few isn't bad. Smart and Rozier will handle the PG spot with IT gone. You have to give to get.

Trade 3. Ibaka, Waiters and DJ for Lee, AB and C's 2016 pick. AJ hasn't been the force inside we hoped for Ibaka would be. C's also have very good depth at guard so we flip strentghs. AB and Lee would fit in great with OKC and help against Warriors if they meet in playoffs.

[PhoSita]

How many 4 team trades have happened in the history of the league?

You mean four team Dwight Howard trades? Just one. But I think he's only been traded once so...

I mean four team trades.  Somebody posted a 4 team trade idea. 

The reason I requested / suggested only two team trades in the original post is that trades with more than two teams are fairly uncommon and generally quite complex.  Trades involving more than three teams are very uncommon.

For our purposes -- i.e. coming up with plausible trade ideas -- it's much more worthwhile to contemplate two team trades.  Much less likely to run afoul of CBA / salary cap rules that way.  Most three teamers are just two team trades that a third team jumps into in order to facilitate some of the minor aspects of the trade and pick up marginal value, anyway.

[BudweiserCeltic]

This Summer could get interesting. With A LOT of teams under the cap, we might find a very unique environment for trades occurring since there's no restriction for salary matching purposes.

[MJohnnyboy]

Hey man. I really like this idea and even like some of your proposals, but I'm going to break 2 of your rules with what I'm about to propose. 1. I only have one proposal (Off the top of my head) and 2. It involves 3 teams. I posted this in the Nets draft pick thread so here goes.

I think we can now throw the Suns name into the hat of tanking teams (if we hadn't before). They just got blown out by the Lakers. As badly I want to just blurt out, "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THIS TEAM?!", I can't help but look at that roster and think they got some nice assets to acquire and probably for cheap. I thought of this deal over the weekend. Tell me who says no.

Boston trades: David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Boston 2016 protected 1st, Dallas 2016 1st
Boston gets: Greg Monroe

Milwaukee trades: Greg Monroe, Michael Carter Williams
Milwaukee gets: Brandon Knight, Markieff Morris

Phoenix trades: Brandon Knight, Markieff Morris
Phoenix gets: David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Michael Carter Williams, Boston 2016 protected 1st, Dallas 2016 1st

Boston does it to get another polished scorer who also is a good rebounder/passer. Defensively Monroe's not a rim protector but his inadequacies IMO are overstated. He actually holds well 1-on-1 against traditional bigs. Just not small athletic ones. Just don't put him in a smallball group. He can do what Sully does on the glass plus put the ball in the bucket, and the Celtics desperately need another consistent scorer besides Isaiah Thomas. Not to mention he won't take any ill-advised 3s unlike Sully.

Milwaukee does it because they would go back to what was working before and Knight gives them good spacing which has been their biggest problem since they got rid of him. Morris, while not a 3 pt shooter, would give them another big who can hit the open jumper too and could really help them in small-ball units. Plus I really don't want to take the chance of Milwaukee stooping down to Brooklyn's standing in the race.

Phoenix does it because they get decent young players (MCW and Sully are not perfect but they are young and would be nice to have as young role players during a rebuild), they get an expiring that clears them of their big money expenditures, some decent picks and hence get to go on an all-out rebuild that people expected them to do 2 years ago. They also get rid of one of their headaches without giving up additional assets just to get rid of him primarily. No it doesn't help the odds of that Brooklyn pick, but the Suns are most likely going to blow it up anyway so may as well get something out of that.

I tried this on Realgm trade checker and it works.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6644199

Monroe fills 2 needs. He would be another consistent offensive source besides Isaiah Thomas and he would be the team's only consistent big offensively, which has been a problem all season. Not to mention I firmly believe he would fit very well in the Celtics system considering they try to surround themselves with shooters and he's a feared low-post threat. He hasn't been in a good system in Detroit and Milwaukee because the best players he's played with rely primarily on going to the post. This Celtics team would atleast provide him with a little more spacing.

He'd also clear up some of the logjam with the bigs that this team currently has and we could get rid of some our picks and turn them into something valuable.

[max215]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the two with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for two more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the four

Celtics: We get an outstanding two-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

Omri Casspi and Ben McLemore for Avery Bradley and Evan Turner:

Sacramento: Bolster their starting lineup and point guard depth, which they desperately need, for a playoff push.

Celtics: We add two very strong shooters to a team that's pitiful from deep. I'm still very intrigued by McLemore as a prospect.


Greg Monroe for David Lee, Tyler Zeller, and the Mavs Pick:

Milwaukee: From what I can gather from Bucks forums, they are not thrilled with Monroe so far. The team is struggling mightily, their defense is abysmal, and they could probably benefit from another early lottery pick. The Bucks cut ties with Monroe, get a needed veteran presence in Lee, a serviceable Center in Zeller, and a decent pick to compensate for the abysmal Greivis Vasquez trade.

Celtics: Danny said he wants a scoring big man. Monroe is one of the better scoring big men in the league. He's a solid rebounder and a good passer; he should fit very well in Brad's system. He's still very young and his contract is by no means an albatross. Also, we get rid of Lee!

[PhoSita]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the 2 with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for 2 more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the 4.

Celtics: We get an outstanding 2-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

Omri Casspi and Ben McLemore for Avery Bradley and Evan Turner:

Sacramento: Bolster their starting lineup and point guard depth, which they desperately need, for a playoff push.

Celtics: We add two very strong shooters to a team that's pitiful from deep. I'm still very intrigued by McLemore as a prospect.


Greg Monroe for David Lee, Tyler Zeller, and the Mavs Pick:

Milwaukee: From what I can gather from Bucks forums, they are not thrilled with Monroe so far. The team is struggling mightily, their defense is abysmal, and they could probably benefit from another early lottery pick. The Bucks cut ties with Monroe, get a needed veteran presence in Lee, a serviceable Center in Zeller, and a decent pick to compensate for the abysmal Greivis Vasquez trade.

Celtics: Danny said he wants a scoring big man. Monroe is one of the better scoring big men in the league. He's a solid rebounder and a good passer; he should fit very well in Brad's system. He's still very young and his contract is by no means an albatross.

I'd be interested in trying to trade for McLemore, though I don't see the urgency for the Kings to try and upgrade this year.

The first and third trades you posted make the other team considerably worse in the present with marginal long term gain.

[max215]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the 2 with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for 2 more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the 4.

Celtics: We get an outstanding 2-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

Omri Casspi and Ben McLemore for Avery Bradley and Evan Turner:

Sacramento: Bolster their starting lineup and point guard depth, which they desperately need, for a playoff push.

Celtics: We add two very strong shooters to a team that's pitiful from deep. I'm still very intrigued by McLemore as a prospect.


Greg Monroe for David Lee, Tyler Zeller, and the Mavs Pick:

Milwaukee: From what I can gather from Bucks forums, they are not thrilled with Monroe so far. The team is struggling mightily, their defense is abysmal, and they could probably benefit from another early lottery pick. The Bucks cut ties with Monroe, get a needed veteran presence in Lee, a serviceable Center in Zeller, and a decent pick to compensate for the abysmal Greivis Vasquez trade.

Celtics: Danny said he wants a scoring big man. Monroe is one of the better scoring big men in the league. He's a solid rebounder and a good passer; he should fit very well in Brad's system. He's still very young and his contract is by no means an albatross.

I'd be interested in trying to trade for McLemore, though I don't see the urgency for the Kings to try and upgrade this year.

The first and third trades you posted make the other team considerably worse in the present with marginal long term gain.

That was sort of the design with the third one

[PhoSita]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the 2 with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for 2 more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the 4.

Celtics: We get an outstanding 2-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

Omri Casspi and Ben McLemore for Avery Bradley and Evan Turner:

Sacramento: Bolster their starting lineup and point guard depth, which they desperately need, for a playoff push.

Celtics: We add two very strong shooters to a team that's pitiful from deep. I'm still very intrigued by McLemore as a prospect.


Greg Monroe for David Lee, Tyler Zeller, and the Mavs Pick:

Milwaukee: From what I can gather from Bucks forums, they are not thrilled with Monroe so far. The team is struggling mightily, their defense is abysmal, and they could probably benefit from another early lottery pick. The Bucks cut ties with Monroe, get a needed veteran presence in Lee, a serviceable Center in Zeller, and a decent pick to compensate for the abysmal Greivis Vasquez trade.

Celtics: Danny said he wants a scoring big man. Monroe is one of the better scoring big men in the league. He's a solid rebounder and a good passer; he should fit very well in Brad's system. He's still very young and his contract is by no means an albatross.

I'd be interested in trying to trade for McLemore, though I don't see the urgency for the Kings to try and upgrade this year.

The first and third trades you posted make the other team considerably worse in the present with marginal long term gain.

That was sort of the design with the third one

I don't think the Bucks are gonna be interested in trading just to get worse this year.  They'll be bad enough to get a nice pick, and Monroe has been good for them. 

What they need is for Giannis and Jabari to get better at spacing the floor, and to find an upgrade at point guard (or for MCW to become at least an adequate shooter).


Middleton - Giannis - Jabari - Monroe will be an excellent core grouping once the spacing improves.

[Who]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the two with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for two more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the four

Celtics: We get an outstanding two-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

It will be really interesting to see how OKC responds to not winning this year. To see if they start to consider making Ibaka available for a trade.

Almost unthinkable in the past ... but you get the feeling there is more desperation there now.

That time is running down on them. To make that next jump and to be a title winner.

... and also that Presti does not have a good plan how to make that happen.

[obnoxiousmime]

Here are some sure to be unpopular trade proposals that I think are realistic. I have not matched salaries perefectly because it would take too much time, but the principals would stay the same.

1.

Isaiah Thomas, Dallas 2016 1st rounder > Bucks
Jabari Parker, Milwaukee 2016 1st rounder > Celtics

The Bucks desperately need shooting and Kidd is the type of GM who would make a win-now move despite their horrible record. I wouldn't necessarily want to do this deal, I just think it's something that could realistically happen.

2.

David Lee, Boston 2016 1st rounder, Dallas 2016 1st rounder > Wizards
Otto Porter, Kris Humphries, Drew Gooden > Celtics

I don't have any idea how the Wizards feel about Porter, but I do know they want to make a big pitch to sign Durant and they play the same position. Clearing Porter, Humphries, and Gooden's salaries would increase their flexibility to do so, along with giving Beal a fat extension. Celtics get a player with potential and don't mind Gooden and Hump being on the payroll for 2016-2017 season (or buy them out).

3.

Jerebko, Bradley > Pelicans
Gordon, 2016 1st round top 3 protected > Celtics

Pelicans get a so-so stretch 4 to replace Anderson whose contract is up and will definitely leave, and another shooter/defender to put next to Davis. Celtics get a pick that could be very, very good. Gordon fills SG gap temporarily until RJ/unknown player comes along for Celts.

[PhoSita]

Here are some sure to be unpopular trade proposals that I think are realistic. I have not matched salaries perefectly because it would take too much time, but the principals would stay the same.

1.

Isaiah Thomas, Dallas 2016 1st rounder > Bucks
Jabari Parker, Milwaukee 2016 1st rounder > Celtics

The Bucks desperately need shooting and Kidd is the type of GM who would make a win-now move despite their horrible record. I wouldn't necessarily want to do this deal, I just think it's something that could realistically happen.

The Bucks GM is still John Hammond, who I should think would be smart enough not to make a short sighted move of this nature.

Also, why do you have the Bucks giving up so much more value in that trade than the Celts?  Higher value player asset (due to potential), plus a much better pick.

[PhoSita]

Serge Ibaka for Avery Bradley and Kelly Olynyk:

Thunder: Finally solve their problem at the two with AB, who's a perfect fit for their team. He's also under team control for two more years at a very low price, which a team like OKC, which has been hesitant to spend in the past, will appreciate. KO can play some of Ibaka's minutes and still offer the floor-stretching that Ibaka offers at the four

Celtics: We get an outstanding two-way player who fits very well in our system. He's not quite a star, but Ibaka is a really excellent, young player. We also clear up some of the logjams in the front and back courts.

It will be really interesting to see how OKC responds to not winning this year. To see if they start to consider making Ibaka available for a trade.

Almost unthinkable in the past ... but you get the feeling there is more desperation there now.

That time is running down on them. To make that next jump and to be a title winner.

... and also that Presti does not have a good plan how to make that happen.

I don't think they can possibly afford to move Ibaka now that they've committed long term to Kanter.  Gotta have a shot-blocker / rim protector who can also space the floor a bit.  If they trade Ibaka they'd need to get back somebody who can take over that role.  Kelly Olynyk is not that.