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Caris Levert is an intriguing prospect.
« on: December 30, 2015, 05:05:25 PM »

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 A little disappointed to find out he's a senior, but if we are going to take another guard I'd prefer he looks like Levert.

 Really tall, long player. Jumps out at you his size and length. 6'7" with a 7'1" wingspan 10 assists today with 22 points vs Illinois.

 Avg, 17ppg 5apg 5.5rpg shooting .440% from three.

 Really good ball handler which I always love and a great passer. Excellent Defensively as well. If he continues to add strength and could guard NBA SF's he could be extremely valuable.

 I really like him and I'm excited to see a big guard that can really play in this draft, currently  the #19 prospect on draftexpress.
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He's someone I wouldn't mind at all getting with either our pick or Dallas pick based on where they are slotted now.  His size and skill set are very well suited for the modern NBA, and definitely what I would like to see Danny pursue if he does decide to draft another guard.

I think Levert almost definitely would have come out last year if not for the season ending injury, so he is a senior I view as having a bit more upside than others may have due to missing a full year of development.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 05:26:56 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 05:35:18 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 05:43:29 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.


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 Any Michigan fans on here, or fans of Levert with inside info.

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 11:10:38 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 11:33:30 PM »

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 Any Michigan fans on here, or fans of Levert with inside info.

Just use the search function on the forum for Levert and Saltlover and you'll find all my scouting reports on him going back to his sophomore year.  I've been high on him since fall of 2013.  It's unfortunate he got hurt last year, but he's really taken his game another notch up from prior years, and is really able to drive to the basket much more.  He's a jack of all trades player.  His upside is good Evan Turner with a better 3-point shot.  He does have some bad Evan Turner in him as well (forces the issue too much and goes on tilt with his jump shot, and then passes it we're not quite sure who).  But Michigan's top 2 point guards have been out much of the season, so I think he's getting accustomed to having the ball in his hands so much.

He's also a really good kid.  Michigan is a big school, and people are willing to call out players who are jerks, even if they're star players on championship teams (ahem, Brian Griese).  Levert seems to be liked by everyone.  There aren't stories of him saving people from burning buildings -- just that he's a genuine, sometimes quiet, kid at college.  He's got great work ethic, which is probably how he got his injury (from working out too much).

I'd be really happy if he became a Celtic.  I don't think he's got star potential, but he's the type of player that every team needs.  He can fill multiple roles on offense and defense, is a good teammate, and you don't have to worry about him at 2am.  A fine pick in the 10-20 range.  Some team will be happy.

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 01:02:56 AM »

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 Any Michigan fans on here, or fans of Levert with inside info.

Just use the search function on the forum for Levert and Saltlover and you'll find all my scouting reports on him going back to his sophomore year.  I've been high on him since fall of 2013.  It's unfortunate he got hurt last year, but he's really taken his game another notch up from prior years, and is really able to drive to the basket much more.  He's a jack of all trades player.  His upside is good Evan Turner with a better 3-point shot.  He does have some bad Evan Turner in him as well (forces the issue too much and goes on tilt with his jump shot, and then passes it we're not quite sure who).  But Michigan's top 2 point guards have been out much of the season, so I think he's getting accustomed to having the ball in his hands so much.

He's also a really good kid.  Michigan is a big school, and people are willing to call out players who are jerks, even if they're star players on championship teams (ahem, Brian Griese).  Levert seems to be liked by everyone.  There aren't stories of him saving people from burning buildings -- just that he's a genuine, sometimes quiet, kid at college.  He's got great work ethic, which is probably how he got his injury (from working out too much).

I'd be really happy if he became a Celtic.  I don't think he's got star potential, but he's the type of player that every team needs.  He can fill multiple roles on offense and defense, is a good teammate, and you don't have to worry about him at 2am.  A fine pick in the 10-20 range.  Some team will be happy.





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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

With all due respect, 1 + 1 = 2. 

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Love LeVert with our pick or Dallas which I expect to be in the high teens/low 20's.

Maybe he is an injury risk but his ball handling shooting and size make him worth the risk at that point in the draft.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2015, 12:19:35 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

With all due respect, 1 + 1 = 2.

With all due respect, an injury suffered in July that sees him back on the court in October is not season-ending by any definition.  He missed zero games due to the first injury.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2015, 12:23:26 PM »

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

With all due respect, 1 + 1 = 2.

With all due respect, an injury suffered in July that sees him back on the court in October is not season-ending by any definition.  He missed zero games due to the first injury.
That ones on me. I thought both injuries had been season ending, but the fact remains he's had two major foot injuries

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

With all due respect, 1 + 1 = 2.

With all due respect, an injury suffered in July that sees him back on the court in October is not season-ending by any definition.  He missed zero games due to the first injury.
That ones on me. I thought both injuries had been season ending, but the fact remains he's had two major foot injuries

Injury concerns aren't a huge deal for players drafted outside the lotto. The fact is that 90% of those guys never have a career anyway, so a 10-20% risk that Levert's foot becomes chronic just isn't that big a deal if you think he's got NBA talent.

I like Levert's combo of length+quick release on his jumpshot. He could become a really nice 3&D wing with his ability to get his shot off over almost anyone. I don't think his playmaking will translate to the NBA, though - guys like that always dominate as college upperclassmen.

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Huge injury concern but other than that I like him.

Huge injury concern might be a little hyperbolic.  He hurt his foot, tried to come back too quickly, and had to get a second procedure.  There have been no reports of him having any limitations since the summer.  Sometimes injuries do in fact heal.

He needs to learn NBA defense (Michigan doesn't play anything resembling that).  He'll probably be able to learn, but that's the biggest risk with him.  He should be a fine NBA rotation player, albeit not a star.
Huge is strong but when I see a 21 year old with two season ending foot injuries that raises a big red flag.

Well he only had one season-ending foot injury, so that's part of your problem.  He hurt himself in summer workouts (July 2014) and was back out there in October 2014 because he didn't want to miss any time.  He probably should have waited (although he was playing well) and come back a bit later, which is how he injured himself in January 2015.  The second time around he was a little more patient and stayed off it for six months instead of three.

With all due respect, 1 + 1 = 2.

With all due respect, an injury suffered in July that sees him back on the court in October is not season-ending by any definition.  He missed zero games due to the first injury.
That ones on me. I thought both injuries had been season ending, but the fact remains he's had two major foot injuries

Injury concerns aren't a huge deal for players drafted outside the lotto. The fact is that 90% of those guys never have a career anyway, so a 10-20% risk that Levert's foot becomes chronic just isn't that big a deal if you think he's got NBA talent.

I like Levert's combo of length+quick release on his jumpshot. He could become a really nice 3&D wing with his ability to get his shot off over almost anyone. I don't think his playmaking will translate to the NBA, though - guys like that always dominate as college upperclassmen.

His playmaking has a better chance than many to translate at least somewhat.  He was a PG all of high school, and Michigan had him playing some minutes at the point even as a sophomore -- and he has always been young for his year, to boot.  He won't be a go-to guy, but I think that part of his game still has growth, such that he can be a secondary ball-handler on offense, and not merely be a spot-up shooter.  Maybe not much in his rookie year, but over time.