When will Smart start to take over?

[celtics2030]

Bad shooting seems standard now with incoming guards.

Look at Mudiay , talented but shooting like he wants to lose on purpose. He has to the tools.

Marcus has impressed me this year doing things. He has gotten better at almost everything. The problem is it did not translate in to consistent baskets.

Hopefully I don't get destroyed for bringing up Elfrid. Hes also one of those off the jump terrible shooting point guards.

But hes had a consistant stretch of scoring the ball this year and the team winning games.

I honestly think one reason for Smart not playing better is because of the system. The good thing is Smart isnt one of those players who does one thing Ala guys like Wroten who got waived. Smart can do whats needed for any team. Hes a team player, and can win games doing the little things.

Just how far he can go to become a star is a tough one.

[Rosco917]

I don't feel Smart will ever "take over" he most likely will never have the offensive out put to satisfy some. He will be a team leader, a lock down defender, and a guy every team should have on their roster, while scoring good enough to justify his minutes. I'm thinking 13-15 points, 5-6 rebounds, 7-8 assists, with some killer D, and a take no prisoners attitude that others imitate.

It's like asking, when will Draymond Green take over on the Warriors? He gives you things that don't show up in the stat line, that get you important grind it out wins, wins you had no business winning. Everyone thinks Curry is the reason the Warriors are so great, it's not, It's players like Green. Labron wishes he had a Draymond Green on the Cavs roster. Smart will grow into that guy. He's the guy that puts you over the hump. 

If that's not good enough for you, keep "yelling" for him to be traded, and someday you'll say "our team has no passion, they just go through the motions."

[celtics2030]

I don't feel Smart will ever "take over" he most likely will never have the offensive out put to satisfy some. He will be a team leader, a lock down defender, and a guy every team should have on their roster, while scoring good enough to justify his minutes. I'm thinking 13-15 points, 5-6 rebounds, 7-8 assists, with some killer D, and a take no prisoners attitude that others imitate.

It's like asking, when will Draymond Green take over on the Warriors? He gives you things that don't show up in the stat line, that get you important grind it out wins, wins you had no business winning. Everyone thinks Curry is the reason the Warriors are so great, it's not, It's players like Green. Labron wishes he had a Draymond Green on the Cavs roster. Smart will grow into that guy. He's the guy that puts you over the hump. 

If that's not good enough for you, keep "yelling" for him to be traded, and someday you'll say "our team has no passion, they just go through the motions."

Green is lucky he is on that team, or else he might be a 9th or 10th man right now.

[34truth]

It's pretty [dang] obvious he is our most overrated player, at the same time our best prospect?? Funny weird situation. Not sure he would crack the rotation in a championship caliber team right now

[34truth]

I don't feel Smart will ever "take over" he most likely will never have the offensive out put to satisfy some. He will be a team leader, a lock down defender, and a guy every team should have on their roster, while scoring good enough to justify his minutes. I'm thinking 13-15 points, 5-6 rebounds, 7-8 assists, with some killer D, and a take no prisoners attitude that others imitate.

It's like asking, when will Draymond Green take over on the Warriors? He gives you things that don't show up in the stat line, that get you important grind it out wins, wins you had no business winning. Everyone thinks Curry is the reason the Warriors are so great, it's not, It's players like Green. Labron wishes he had a Draymond Green on the Cavs roster. Smart will grow into that guy. He's the guy that puts you over the hump. 

If that's not good enough for you, keep "yelling" for him to be traded, and someday you'll say "our team has no passion, they just go through the motions."

Wow. Green is a true beast tho. If Smart can develop into half the player Green is im ok

[Hemingway]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The negativity on this forum stinks and it sucks!

How about a welcome back Smart post? Would that kill ya? It's been one game and from a guy back from injury in his second year, what more could you ask or expect? He played well and he played within himself.

[Evantime34]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The negativity on this forum stinks and it sucks!

How about a welcome back Smart post? Would that kill ya? It's been one game and from a guy back from injury in his second year, what more could you ask or expect? He played well and he played within himself.

TP!

I feel like this board is comprised of a very vocal negative minority. The percentage of celticsbloggers who complain about Smart isn't at all reflective of how fans feel about Smart in general.

It's shocking how many people have already written Smart off as a bad offensive player despite him only being 21 and 10 games into his second year.

[wiley]

It's pretty [dang] obvious he is our most overrated player, at the same time our best prospect?? Funny weird situation. Not sure he would crack the rotation in a championship caliber team right now

Yeah.  No sense having him guard Westbrook, Curry or Harden.  Let him wave a towel from the bench.   

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

I think the issue is that Smart is out and were playing well. His presence hasnt become significantly  missed. Now if we were playing bad, i'd assume the comments may be slightly different. There's no advance stat in the world that can gauge Smarts true ability at this point

[CelticPride2016]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The negativity on this forum stinks and it sucks!

How about a welcome back Smart post? Would that kill ya? It's been one game and from a guy back from injury in his second year, what more could you ask or expect? He played well and he played within himself.

TP!

I feel like this board is comprised of a very vocal negative minority. The percentage of celticsbloggers who complain about Smart isn't at all reflective of how fans feel about Smart in general.

It's shocking how many people have already written Smart off as a bad offensive player despite him only being 21 and 10 games into his second year.

I agree with both of you. Thankfully, the Celtics have reached the easy portion of the schedule. As the C's rise in the standings, watch for the louder voices to either become more quiet or refuse to admit that they don't know much about basketball. They will perhaps get louder about new things which will also eventually be proven wrong.

[cb8883]

I think the issue is that Smart is out and were playing well. His presence hasnt become significantly  missed. Now if we were playing bad, i'd assume the comments may be slightly different. There's no advance stat in the world that can gauge Smarts true ability at this point

Banks 2.0 is nothing more than a role player. IMO he already has reached his ceiling. You look at him and feel this guy should be aggressive, should hit the paint with authority and become the next Flash. But his mental makeup is that of Jeff Green. Heck Kwame Brown was still a valuable one years down the road. He still ended up getting chances since he was the #1 overall pick and it ended up working out. It is going to take a few years and 3 or 4 different organizations but I think Banks will do well as an 8 or 9 ppg guy off the bench who can play some defense on a contender. I don't blame Banks 2.0 for his short comings though. I blame Danny Ainge for drafting him on a team where they allowed for him to be labeled a potential future star. Ainge, has had an AWFUL draft track record over the past few years. I mean I shutter to think who he will take with the Nets pick even if its in the top 5. Certainly not a Euro since he doesn't like to draft them.

[alldaboston]

I think the issue is that Smart is out and were playing well. His presence hasnt become significantly  missed. Now if we were playing bad, i'd assume the comments may be slightly different. There's no advance stat in the world that can gauge Smarts true ability at this point

Banks 2.0 is nothing more than a role player. IMO he already has reached his ceiling. You look at him and feel this guy should be aggressive, should hit the paint with authority and become the next Flash. But his mental makeup is that of Jeff Green. Heck Kwame Brown was still a valuable one years down the road. He still ended up getting chances since he was the #1 overall pick and it ended up working out. It is going to take a few years and 3 or 4 different organizations but I think Banks will do well as an 8 or 9 ppg guy off the bench who can play some defense on a contender. I don't blame Banks 2.0 for his short comings though. I blame Danny Ainge for drafting him on a team where they allowed for him to be labeled a potential future star. Ainge, has had an AWFUL draft track record over the past few years. I mean I shutter to think who he will take with the Nets pick even if its in the top 5. Certainly not a Euro since he doesn't like to draft them.

chill

[Ilikesports17]

I think the issue is that Smart is out and were playing well. His presence hasnt become significantly  missed. Now if we were playing bad, i'd assume the comments may be slightly different. There's no advance stat in the world that can gauge Smarts true ability at this point

Banks 2.0 is nothing more than a role player. IMO he already has reached his ceiling. You look at him and feel this guy should be aggressive, should hit the paint with authority and become the next Flash. But his mental makeup is that of Jeff Green. Heck Kwame Brown was still a valuable one years down the road. He still ended up getting chances since he was the #1 overall pick and it ended up working out. It is going to take a few years and 3 or 4 different organizations but I think Banks will do well as an 8 or 9 ppg guy off the bench who can play some defense on a contender. I don't blame Banks 2.0 for his short comings though. I blame Danny Ainge for drafting him on a team where they allowed for him to be labeled a potential future star. Ainge, has had an AWFUL draft track record over the past few years. I mean I shutter to think who he will take with the Nets pick even if its in the top 5. Certainly not a Euro since he doesn't like to draft them.

You had a whole world of NBA players to compare Marcus Smart to and you picked Jeff Green.

Also Marcus already is an 9 or 9 ppg guy with great defense. And hes played like 77 games in his NBA career.

Honestly I suggest finding a new team to root for because for the next at least 2 or 3 years you are going to hate this one.

[cb8883]

I think the issue is that Smart is out and were playing well. His presence hasnt become significantly  missed. Now if we were playing bad, i'd assume the comments may be slightly different. There's no advance stat in the world that can gauge Smarts true ability at this point

Banks 2.0 is nothing more than a role player. IMO he already has reached his ceiling. You look at him and feel this guy should be aggressive, should hit the paint with authority and become the next Flash. But his mental makeup is that of Jeff Green. Heck Kwame Brown was still a valuable one years down the road. He still ended up getting chances since he was the #1 overall pick and it ended up working out. It is going to take a few years and 3 or 4 different organizations but I think Banks will do well as an 8 or 9 ppg guy off the bench who can play some defense on a contender. I don't blame Banks 2.0 for his short comings though. I blame Danny Ainge for drafting him on a team where they allowed for him to be labeled a potential future star. Ainge, has had an AWFUL draft track record over the past few years. I mean I shutter to think who he will take with the Nets pick even if its in the top 5. Certainly not a Euro since he doesn't like to draft them.

You had a whole world of NBA players to compare Marcus Smart to and you picked Jeff Green.

Also Marcus already is an 9 or 9 ppg guy with great defense. And hes played like 77 games in his NBA career.

Honestly I suggest finding a new team to root for because for the next at least 2 or 3 years you are going to hate this one.

Mentally he doesn't? Jeff Green looked like a hell of a player. When you got to the mental makeup that's when things fell apart. Its actually a really good comparison. Banks 2.0 will make some money because teams will take a flyer on him much like the Celtics did with Evan Turner because of where he was drafted. But he's never going to live up to his billing as the 6th pick. Might not even be worth a 2nd rounder by years end.

[Ilikesports17]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The negativity on this forum stinks and it sucks!

How about a welcome back Smart post? Would that kill ya? It's been one game and from a guy back from injury in his second year, what more could you ask or expect? He played well and he played within himself.

TP!

I feel like this board is comprised of a very vocal negative minority. The percentage of celticsbloggers who complain about Smart isn't at all reflective of how fans feel about Smart in general.

It's shocking how many people have already written Smart off as a bad offensive player despite him only being 21 and 10 games into his second year.

I agree with both of you. Thankfully, the Celtics have reached the easy portion of the schedule. As the C's rise in the standings, watch for the louder voices to either become more quiet or refuse to admit that they don't know much about basketball. They will perhaps get louder about new things which will also eventually be proven wrong.

I think the focus will turn to 2 things. 1 being that we are becoming a treadmill team and 2 being a storm of posts about how philly and LA are set up for greatness.