What offer could we make for Monroe?

[Moranis]

If we wanted him why not sign him this summer?   That ought to show you that we do not want him.   

We could have got him for cash with no trades or asset loss and we did not.  Don't quit your day job and go into sports management.

Saw reports we made inquiries but he preferred Milwaukee as he thought that was a better long term situation.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If we wanted him why not sign him this summer?   That ought to show you that we do not want him.   

We could have got him for cash with no trades or asset loss and we did not.  Don't quit your day job and go into sports management.

Saw reports we made inquiries but he preferred Milwaukee as he thought that was a better long term situation.

There were rumors that the Celtics had interest prior to the moratorium... not much of a peep since other than the assumption from reporters guessing on who should be interested rather on who were actually interested. But when it came down to sit downs and what not, the Celtics weren't involved at all, and early in the process at that. Sure, he could've picked the Bucks, but considering who were on the table (heck Monroe even had a meeting with Portland, come on...), and the Celtics having zero involvement in it, leads me to believe that Ainge had no interest in Monroe, at least at his price tag.

Another high priced max-level free-agent last Summer was Tobias Harris, which had a bit more traction with the Celtics, and even then the Celtics showed no interest in offering his asking price... and the market for both players seemed fairly similar.

The other circumstantial evidence I have is Monroe's agent, who seems to have a good relationship with Ainge, often commending the good deals and treatment Ainge has given his players. And you're going to have me believe that if Ainge was interested, and considering that relationship, that the Celtics didn't have a horse at the race at the very least? More so when you consider that Monroe picked the Bucks over the other suitors... the situation with the Celtics wasn't all that different than theirs, plus a much more marketable city. Honestly, I don't buy it one bit.

I mean, if the Celtics had shown interest in him, actual interest, I'm sure we would've heard a lot more than what got reported other than some "list of teams with interest" in rumor websites going into free-agency. But there was no word, no activity concerning the Celtics and Monroe, none. Considering how quickly the Celtics were out of the rumor mill concerning Monroe, I think evidence sides more with Ainge not having all that much interest in Monroe, than Monroe not wanting to come to Boston. I'd have tough time believing that unless there's proof to the contrary other than fanbase guess work.

The problem is not that Monroe picked the Bucks, but that the Celtics weren't really involved in the whole process at all other than some preliminary list of potential teams.

[Hemingway]

I thought he picked the bucks over us. I don't remember anything to say we didn't want him.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I thought he picked the bucks over us. I don't remember anything to say we didn't want him.

Well, technically he picked the Bucks over the rest of the NBA.

[csfansince60s]

If we wanted him why not sign him this summer?   That ought to show you that we do not want him.   

We could have got him for cash with no trades or asset loss and we did not.  Don't quit your day job and go into sports management.

Saw reports we made inquiries but he preferred Milwaukee as he thought that was a better long term situation.

There were rumors that the Celtics had interest prior to the moratorium... not much of a peep since other than the assumption from reporters guessing on who should be interested rather on who were actually interested. But when it came down to sit downs and what not, the Celtics weren't involved at all, and early in the process at that. Sure, he could've picked the Bucks, but considering who were on the table (heck Monroe even had a meeting with Portland, come on...), and the Celtics having zero involvement in it, leads me to believe that Ainge had no interest in Monroe, at least at his price tag.

Another high priced max-level free-agent last Summer was Tobias Harris, which had a bit more traction with the Celtics, and even then the Celtics showed no interest in offering his asking price... and the market for both players seemed fairly similar.

The other circumstantial evidence I have is Monroe's agent, who seems to have a good relationship with Ainge, often commending the good deals and treatment Ainge has given his players. And you're going to have me believe that if Ainge was interested, and considering that relationship, that the Celtics didn't have a horse at the race at the very least? More so when you consider that Monroe picked the Bucks over the other suitors... the situation with the Celtics wasn't all that different than theirs, plus a much more marketable city. Honestly, I don't buy it one bit.

I mean, if the Celtics had shown interest in him, actual interest, I'm sure we would've heard a lot more than what got reported other than some "list of teams with interest" in rumor websites going into free-agency. But there was no word, no activity concerning the Celtics and Monroe, none. Considering how quickly the Celtics were out of the rumor mill concerning Monroe, I think evidence sides more with Ainge not having all that much interest in Monroe, than Monroe not wanting to come to Boston. I'd have tough time believing that unless there's proof to the contrary other than fanbase guess work.

The problem is not that Monroe picked the Bucks, but that the Celtics weren't really involved in the whole process at all other than some preliminary list of potential teams.

TP...in my opinion, a thorough and accurate assessment.

I was playing close attention, because I thought that he would be great here. Rebounding, rim running, young, good passing big man coming out of Drummond's shadow.

I'm convinced (just intuitively) that Stevens, especially, for some reason, didn't want him. Great coaches adapt their system to players. I'd like to hope that if a real quality player becomes available, we grab him even if he doesn't exactly fit Stevens' system.

Given next years jump in the cap, Monroe's 3 year $50 mil contract is a bargain.

[LooseCannon]

Kid deff has some talent, but it's awful strange that a Milwaukee squad who's only major addition/subtraction was adding him, was an over .500 playoff team and now they're struggling hard enough to miss it all together.

Though, after the Knight trade last year Milwaukee was playing just as poorly as they are now, so who knows how much of their struggles are related to him. I just wouldn't give up much to go get him.

I thought the Bucks would miss the playoffs this year due to having a full season of that on-court garbage known as Michael Carter-Williams and the loss of Zaza Pachulia.  They also lost Ilyasova. 

I also think Giannis and Jabari are overrated by a lot of people.  I don't think either will end up being capable of being the best player on a championship team.

[Moranis]

If we wanted him why not sign him this summer?   That ought to show you that we do not want him.   

We could have got him for cash with no trades or asset loss and we did not.  Don't quit your day job and go into sports management.

Saw reports we made inquiries but he preferred Milwaukee as he thought that was a better long term situation.

There were rumors that the Celtics had interest prior to the moratorium... not much of a peep since other than the assumption from reporters guessing on who should be interested rather on who were actually interested. But when it came down to sit downs and what not, the Celtics weren't involved at all, and early in the process at that. Sure, he could've picked the Bucks, but considering who were on the table (heck Monroe even had a meeting with Portland, come on...), and the Celtics having zero involvement in it, leads me to believe that Ainge had no interest in Monroe, at least at his price tag.

Another high priced max-level free-agent last Summer was Tobias Harris, which had a bit more traction with the Celtics, and even then the Celtics showed no interest in offering his asking price... and the market for both players seemed fairly similar.

The other circumstantial evidence I have is Monroe's agent, who seems to have a good relationship with Ainge, often commending the good deals and treatment Ainge has given his players. And you're going to have me believe that if Ainge was interested, and considering that relationship, that the Celtics didn't have a horse at the race at the very least? More so when you consider that Monroe picked the Bucks over the other suitors... the situation with the Celtics wasn't all that different than theirs, plus a much more marketable city. Honestly, I don't buy it one bit.

I mean, if the Celtics had shown interest in him, actual interest, I'm sure we would've heard a lot more than what got reported other than some "list of teams with interest" in rumor websites going into free-agency. But there was no word, no activity concerning the Celtics and Monroe, none. Considering how quickly the Celtics were out of the rumor mill concerning Monroe, I think evidence sides more with Ainge not having all that much interest in Monroe, than Monroe not wanting to come to Boston. I'd have tough time believing that unless there's proof to the contrary other than fanbase guess work.

The problem is not that Monroe picked the Bucks, but that the Celtics weren't really involved in the whole process at all other than some preliminary list of potential teams.

I saw numerous reports that said Monroe met with Boston and that Boston was interested in signing him, but he thought the Bucks had a brighter future, so he choose them over the other 4 teams he met with.  And the thing is, he probably wasn't wrong.  Milwaukee finished ahead of Boston and did so without Parker playing.  You put it all together and Milwaukee probably did have a brighter future at the time. 

Harris isn't the same thing, Orlando could match every offer.  Much less reason to pursue a restricted free agent, especially after Orlando came out and said they would match all offers. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

If we wanted him why not sign him this summer?   That ought to show you that we do not want him.   

We could have got him for cash with no trades or asset loss and we did not.  Don't quit your day job and go into sports management.

Saw reports we made inquiries but he preferred Milwaukee as he thought that was a better long term situation.

There were rumors that the Celtics had interest prior to the moratorium... not much of a peep since other than the assumption from reporters guessing on who should be interested rather on who were actually interested. But when it came down to sit downs and what not, the Celtics weren't involved at all, and early in the process at that. Sure, he could've picked the Bucks, but considering who were on the table (heck Monroe even had a meeting with Portland, come on...), and the Celtics having zero involvement in it, leads me to believe that Ainge had no interest in Monroe, at least at his price tag.

Another high priced max-level free-agent last Summer was Tobias Harris, which had a bit more traction with the Celtics, and even then the Celtics showed no interest in offering his asking price... and the market for both players seemed fairly similar.

The other circumstantial evidence I have is Monroe's agent, who seems to have a good relationship with Ainge, often commending the good deals and treatment Ainge has given his players. And you're going to have me believe that if Ainge was interested, and considering that relationship, that the Celtics didn't have a horse at the race at the very least? More so when you consider that Monroe picked the Bucks over the other suitors... the situation with the Celtics wasn't all that different than theirs, plus a much more marketable city. Honestly, I don't buy it one bit.

I mean, if the Celtics had shown interest in him, actual interest, I'm sure we would've heard a lot more than what got reported other than some "list of teams with interest" in rumor websites going into free-agency. But there was no word, no activity concerning the Celtics and Monroe, none. Considering how quickly the Celtics were out of the rumor mill concerning Monroe, I think evidence sides more with Ainge not having all that much interest in Monroe, than Monroe not wanting to come to Boston. I'd have tough time believing that unless there's proof to the contrary other than fanbase guess work.

The problem is not that Monroe picked the Bucks, but that the Celtics weren't really involved in the whole process at all other than some preliminary list of potential teams.

I saw numerous reports that said Monroe met with Boston and that Boston was interested in signing him, but he thought the Bucks had a brighter future, so he choose them over the other 4 teams he met with.  And the thing is, he probably wasn't wrong.  Milwaukee finished ahead of Boston and did so without Parker playing.  You put it all together and Milwaukee probably did have a brighter future at the time. 

Harris isn't the same thing, Orlando could match every offer.  Much less reason to pursue a restricted free agent, especially after Orlando came out and said they would match all offers. 

I don't remember a single report mentioning that Boston met with Monroe. Just the contrary, preliminary lists had Boston as a team of potential interest, but when the list of teams that showed with whom Monroe was going to meet, etc. Boston wasn't on it at all. If you can show me some evidence of that I'd gladly accept it because I'm tired of all the suppositions.

You're missing the point regarding Tobias Harris. The point isn't that Orlando was willing to match, the point was the reports had it that regardless of Orlando's position, Boston was not interested in offering a max contract to him. That was the point. I think the figure used was a starting salary of $14M < or so. When this info came out I'm pretty sure that reports had it that Orlando wasn't going to match on Harris. They changed their tune once some of their moves didn't pan out (or maybe they always planned on matching) but the point remains on the willingness of the Celtics to spend on such a player.

And again, the point is not that he chose the Bucks over the Celtics and the others. It's that I didn't see the Celtics being involved in the process at all. That Monroe chose a team like the Bucks and the absence of Celtics of at least being in contention, is what leads me to believe that Ainge might not have gone after Monroe as many of us had wanted or suspected he would. I think at most what Ainge did was inquire about what he was looking for and didn't pursue much further.

All reports I read had Knicks, Bucks, Portland, and Lakers who he had a meeting with him, and in the morning of the next day he already had an agreement in place with the Bucks.

Also there were reports of the Knicks not offering him a Max contract as it is... so that he chose the Bucks because of their bright future could be all lip service to save face.