How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem

[Future Celtics Owner]

If I were DA I would hire one of the Barry's and force the center to shoot ft's underhand/grandpa style.....with out a doubt would get someone to 60-70% after practice....even drummond

[BornReady]

mandatory FT training for all players

[KGs Knee]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

[Moranis]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

[KGs Knee]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

[Moranis]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

[KGs Knee]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

[Moranis]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

You are acting like they can't stop the other team.  It is a strategy to take advantage of the other teams weakness.  Why should guys that can't hit shots just get free reign to be terrible with no negative consequences.

[KGs Knee]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

You are acting like they can't stop the other team.  It is a strategy to take advantage of the other teams weakness.  Why should guys that can't hit shots just get free reign to be terrible with no negative consequences.

I couldn't care less whether the player being fouled makes or misses his shots. That's not relevant to me. I do find it comical however there are professional basketball players that can't make a shot I can, but it doesn't matter. Also, yeah it kind of is because a team cannot stop the other. I can't think of many, if any, circumstances of a team committing these type of intentional fouls while in the lead, or not in reaction to the other team doing it to them.

Like I've said, it's not about rewarding poor free throw shooter, it's about penalizing teams trying to flaunt the rules. Care to explain why the NBA has already put a stop to this crap in the last 2 minutes? 

[LooseCannon]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

Do you believe that a hard foul to prevent an easy layup is playing the wrong way and the definition of flagrant foul should be expanded to include all such plays?

[Moranis]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

You are acting like they can't stop the other team.  It is a strategy to take advantage of the other teams weakness.  Why should guys that can't hit shots just get free reign to be terrible with no negative consequences.

I couldn't care less whether the player being fouled makes or misses his shots. That's not relevant to me. I do find it comical however there are professional basketball players that can't make a shot I can, but it doesn't matter. Also, yeah it kind of is because a team cannot stop the other. I can't think of many, if any, circumstances of a team committing these type of intentional fouls while in the lead, or not in reaction to the other team doing it to them.

Like I've said, it's not about rewarding poor free throw shooter, it's about penalizing teams trying to flaunt the rules. Care to explain why the NBA has already put a stop to this crap in the last 2 minutes?

because the last two minutes already take forever. 

[MBunge]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

You are acting like they can't stop the other team.  It is a strategy to take advantage of the other teams weakness.  Why should guys that can't hit shots just get free reign to be terrible with no negative consequences.

I couldn't care less whether the player being fouled makes or misses his shots. That's not relevant to me. I do find it comical however there are professional basketball players that can't make a shot I can, but it doesn't matter. Also, yeah it kind of is because a team cannot stop the other. I can't think of many, if any, circumstances of a team committing these type of intentional fouls while in the lead, or not in reaction to the other team doing it to them.

Like I've said, it's not about rewarding poor free throw shooter, it's about penalizing teams trying to flaunt the rules. Care to explain why the NBA has already put a stop to this crap in the last 2 minutes?

Because the NBA is entertainment as well as sport.  Changing the rules for the whole game is taking it too far.

Honestly, this is an example of exaggerating a problem that didn't need to be fixed.  Outside of Shaq, there were very few times when teams resorted to deliberate fouling until the very end of the game.  But by taking the option out of coaches' hands at the end of games, they encouraged it's use earlier on.

Doc has also exacerbated the situation by his stubborn refusal to take DeAndre out when this happens.

Mike

[pearljammer10]

Intentionally fouling is basically the defenses admission they cannot stop you and have to resort to bush league tactics. Eliminating this pathetic strategy isn't about rewarding bad free throw shooters, it's about penalizing teams that are trying to win by flaunting the rules.

In baseball, an intentional walk is basically an admission that they cannot get you out.  Maybe that should result in two bases and umpires should have the discretion to give the extra base if an unintentional intentional walk is blatantly obvious.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Shows your side of the argument really has no leg to stand on.

This is such a horrible analogy. A walk in baseball is not a violation of the rule for illegal contact. I'd you walk 6 batters in a game you're not disqualified and forced to leave the game.

I mean seriously, did anyone watch the Rockets/Spurs game last night and see what happened at 1:59 left in the 4th quarter? The Spurs were using that stupid hack-a-whoever garbage, but got caught doing it a little too late in the game. Since the foul happened after the 2 minute mark, Houston got to choose whoever they wanted that was currently on the court to take a singular free throw, and then retained possession of the ball.

Accept it folks, the NBA even admits you guys are wrong, and that this is a problem (well, at least in the last 2 minutes of the game). They simply just need to enforce this rule throughout the entire game and this nonsense would stop immediately.

why is it nonsense?  If a guy can't hit free throws why should he be on the floor because people don't like fouls.  Two ways to stop this nonsense make your free throws or don't play guys that can't hit free throws.  Pretty darn easy. 

It's nonsense because it's a pathetic attempt to win when doing so by playing g the game the right way isn't working.

Face it, you're wrong, the NBA already has partially conceded that.

the right way?  that is a strange way to look at it.  How about this after 10 games, no player can play more than 10 minutes a game if he can't hit more than say 55% from the line? 

That's stupid.  Missing free throws is not a violation of the rules. A foul is, you commit 6 of them in a game and you get kicked out.

How about teams learn how to play some [dang] defense. If your team can't stop the other maybe your team should just be relegated to the d-league.

You are acting like they can't stop the other team.  It is a strategy to take advantage of the other teams weakness.  Why should guys that can't hit shots just get free reign to be terrible with no negative consequences.

I couldn't care less whether the player being fouled makes or misses his shots. That's not relevant to me. I do find it comical however there are professional basketball players that can't make a shot I can, but it doesn't matter. Also, yeah it kind of is because a team cannot stop the other. I can't think of many, if any, circumstances of a team committing these type of intentional fouls while in the lead, or not in reaction to the other team doing it to them.

Like I've said, it's not about rewarding poor free throw shooter, it's about penalizing teams trying to flaunt the rules. Care to explain why the NBA has already put a stop to this crap in the last 2 minutes?

To try and make the games less boring so they can keep peoples attention longer and weasel out as much money as they can even if its only 2 minutes.

It has nothing to do with the rules. If you can't hit a free throw practice them. There is nothing wrong with using this strategy to try and stop the clock and get the ball back. It has worked, even though seldomly, many times in the past.

[Finkelskyhook]

Because the NBA is entertainment as well as sport.

The irony of that comment in this thread.....

Where the Cavs games seem to be officiated by WWE "sports entertainment" referees.

Near the end of the Warriors-Cavs game where the officials seemed desperate to give the game to the Cavs....Where the messiah took 4 full steps in the paint before getting fouled (well, sort of getting fouled)....Then the phantom foul that Smith drew....

The only reason the Cavs lost that game is that they didn't make their free throws.   How do you fix that?

[Hemingway]

We've done it to guys not because we thought they would score on us (as was the case with Shaq) but because it was late in a quarter or half so we didn't have to worry about sending a good ft shooter to the line over a silly hand check of offensive foul. If someone is shooting under 50% it kind of does make sense. I don't really like it but it is within the rules. It's kind of like the Super Pacs in politics. I dont really like them but if I were running for president I wouldn't be against them. You play by the rules that you are given. To justify a rule change I think you'd have to show that it is a big problem. If there a team that is doing this all game long?