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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #90 on: December 26, 2015, 11:12:08 AM »

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From an entertainment value level, you could argue that is is a good thing. It happens only every once and a while so people are seeing something unusual and it's kind of funny to see a pro airball a 12 foot shoot. And it makes people have an opinion on it(either that the rule should be changed or that they could shoot better) which is probably good.

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #91 on: December 26, 2015, 12:02:04 PM »

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Teams should always have the option to take the ball out from the sidelines instead of shooting free throws.

This is what I think should be done.

I hate watching it and think it should be fixed.  It's an up and down game and it ruins the end of games which should be very entertaining to watch.  I don't blame any coach that does it really because they're just trying to win within the rules but the league should change it.

I like rebounding and defense and I like Centers.  Of the top bigs in the league, a few usually have this issue and it's only encouraging the disappearance of the position around the league.

I would hope everyone could hit FTs at a decent percentage too but I just don't think the hack strategy is within the spirit of the game.
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #92 on: December 26, 2015, 12:24:48 PM »

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No rules need Changing.
Existing rules could be interpretted correctly though.

Watching Matt Delladadova hop on Iguadola's back yesterday looked incredibly intentional to me.  When he did it again, it was certainly intended.  Same thing when Capela or Howard gets bear-hugged 50' away from the ball.   These are fouls the player is instructed by his coach to take.   

So...why not just call it what it is, an intentional foul.   

2 shots + the ball.   

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #93 on: December 26, 2015, 10:08:50 PM »

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  So, from watching our game with the Pistons (clearly a small sample size) the Celts last fouled Drummond with 3:39 left. The last 3:39 took about 26 minutes of real time to play out. If there's an issue with how watchable the end of (relatively) close nba games are, it's not really related to hack-a-Shaq situations.

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #94 on: December 26, 2015, 10:15:13 PM »

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No rules need Changing.
Existing rules could be interpretted correctly though.

Watching Matt Delladadova hop on Iguadola's back yesterday looked incredibly intentional to me.  When he did it again, it was certainly intended.  Same thing when Capela or Howard gets bear-hugged 50' away from the ball.   These are fouls the player is instructed by his coach to take.   

So...why not just call it what it is, an intentional foul.   

2 shots + the ball.

It's not the first time they have employed the jump on the back foul either. what happens when you make someone injure their back? it's not like it's something you would expect to happen. I know you want to get the refs attention but why not try holding and waving or alert the official before you foul like during hack-a-shaq, it's not like they rule it intentional anyway!
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2015, 10:19:03 PM »

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I don't particularly have a problem with the strategy, except that it sucks to watch.  To police it maybe categorize it as its own kind of foul.  If player A commits this particular foul he is charged with a personal foul and a conditional technical foul (this would not incur an extra free throw or possession, just count towards the penalized player's technical foul maximum of 2 in the game).  This would limit the amount of times a player could commit such a foul and add a slight extra penalty for it.  99 out of 100 times it wouldn't effect the player fouling out by T's, but it would give the coach a little something extra to consider before employing the method.
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2015, 10:22:58 PM »

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Don't change it. It will be another unfair change for Shaq's record! He should have been better and so should players from today! Suck it up and shoot better or sit on the bench!
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2015, 11:24:01 PM »

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For every % players shoot under say 60% from the free throw line they are fined a corresponding amount at the end of the season, lets see how quickly a player like Drummond for example gets better from the line if he risks losing 20+ % of his paycheck every year.

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« Reply #98 on: December 26, 2015, 11:24:59 PM »

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For every % players shoot under say 60% from the free throw line they are fined a corresponding amount at the end of the season, lets see how quickly a player like Drummond for example gets better from the line if he risks losing 20+ % of his paycheck every year.

or maybe he'd feel more pressure and miss even more!
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #99 on: December 27, 2015, 04:36:09 AM »

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For every % players shoot under say 60% from the free throw line they are fined a corresponding amount at the end of the season, lets see how quickly a player like Drummond for example gets better from the line if he risks losing 20+ % of his paycheck every year.

  Why single out ft% for something like that? Why not fine players for poor defense, rebounding, shooting or ball-handling?

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2015, 05:32:32 AM »

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Why fix it ?

Rondo is a bad from long range and the coaches give him space to take to shot. Should we find a way to fix that do ???

The refs should apply correctly the intentional foul rules and the players should learn how to be at least decent in FTs ... If they don`t that`s their problem and not the league`s

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2015, 08:12:19 AM »

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I'd have him spend the summer shooting with Rick Barry.

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2015, 08:26:20 AM »

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Teach Shaq how to shoot free throws

Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #103 on: December 27, 2015, 08:59:28 AM »

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The learn to shoot argument is misplaced. I dont want to see a league where everyone is 50/40/90. Diversity is what the league is about. Free throws need to be seen as a sheild, not a sword. Basketball fans, i think, like seeing good defense; watching avery's hectic on ball D is entertaining. Let teams fight out proper defensive systems. Ball or FTs when in the bonus.
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Re: How would you fix the hack a Shaq problem
« Reply #104 on: December 27, 2015, 09:47:44 AM »

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  So, from watching our game with the Pistons (clearly a small sample size) the Celts last fouled Drummond with 3:39 left. The last 3:39 took about 26 minutes of real time to play out. If there's an issue with how watchable the end of (relatively) close nba games are, it's not really related to hack-a-Shaq situations.

This is a good point. It's more the nature of the experience for the viewer than it is a real problem for the game.

But as others have noted, treating truly intentional fouls as such would get rid of the problem quickly.
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