What are 76ers doing?

[KeepRondo]

And yet, if they get Ben Simmons, this will allllllllllllllllllllllllllll be worth it.

And if they do land him, get ready for Hinkie clone wars.

I seriously doubt it.

these past several years (since the Bennett #1 draft), there's been talk of players in the draft being the next big thing.  While several of them have turned out to be very good prospects, none of them have been good enough to carry a team to the promised land or at least the playoffs. 

Philly is incredibly mismanaged and set that franchise back a number of years before they'll be relevant again by following this philosophy.  Minny is an example of a franchise that following a smarter path while acquiring top draft talent.  They've brought in smart players as leaders, did not rid themselves of any players capable of contributing (and the one they did - Love - brought back significant assets) and they have diversified their young assets such that they don't all play the same position-->Towns, Wiggins and Lavine can all be on the court at the same time as opposed to Philly who can't play Noel, Embiid and Okafor all at the same time.

There will be no Hinkie clones

There might not be but if they get Simmons and everything starts working out for them, they then have the ability to be a title contender for 5-10 years. Seems logical that teams stuck in 500 mode will be tempted to duplicate the Hinkie plan.

Also, bad comparison between Twolves and the Sixers. If the Sixers had the top two choices, like Minnesota did, they probably would had selected Wiggins and Towns also. Pretty sure no one would be complaining from Philly if that was the situation.

[Moranis]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

I already answered this in the thread.  Covington had a terrible game. Shot horribly, turned the ball over a lot, etc.  Noel has had wrist injuries as well as the eye.  They aren't going to go crazy with his minutes.  He played 27.  That is a pretty solid number (and he didn't play the last couple in a blow out).  I mean Okafor only played 33.  And Stauskas has been horrible all season.  He just isn't good.  He is probably the worst player on that team right now.  He can't hit a shot, he can't defend, he can't dribble, he can't pass, etc.  He just isn't good.  He shouldn't be playing.

[celticsclay]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

I already answered this in the thread.  Covington had a terrible game. Shot horribly, turned the ball over a lot, etc.  Noel has had wrist injuries as well as the eye.  They aren't going to go crazy with his minutes.  He played 27.  That is a pretty solid number (and he didn't play the last couple in a blow out).  I mean Okafor only played 33.  And Stauskas has been horrible all season.  He just isn't good.  He is probably the worst player on that team right now.  He can't hit a shot, he can't defend, he can't dribble, he can't pass, etc.  He just isn't good.  He shouldn't be playing.

You are obviously not the most reliable source of answers regarding the 76ers cause you have a well earned reputation of "polishing the turd" especially with respect to their role players and have a positive spin on everything that happens with them. That being said, Noel has only played 30 minutes 3 times in 10 games this month. I haven't seen much written about a wrist injury, and if it is serious enough that they limit his minutes, why risk playing him at all?

You also have said that the team would get better when Wroten (and to a lesser extent Marshall) returned. This has not happened.

[Who]

I really like Jerami Grant. I think he is very good glue guy type prospect as a SF/PF. Strong defensively, rebounds and has an improving perimeter jump-shot. I think he is their best PF and should receive the most minutes at that position.

JaKarr Samspon is also an interesting young player. Probably their best perimeter defensive player. His offensive game is very limited but -- similar to Jae Crowder and many others -- if Sampson can develop that perimeter jump-shot, he will become a very valuable role player.

These guys deserve minutes too.

They are probably my 2 favourite guys on the team after Noel and J.Okafor.

[slamtheking]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

I already answered this in the thread.  Covington had a terrible game. Shot horribly, turned the ball over a lot, etc.  Noel has had wrist injuries as well as the eye.  They aren't going to go crazy with his minutes.  He played 27.  That is a pretty solid number (and he didn't play the last couple in a blow out).  I mean Okafor only played 33.  And Stauskas has been horrible all season.  He just isn't good.  He is probably the worst player on that team right now.  He can't hit a shot, he can't defend, he can't dribble, he can't pass, etc.  He just isn't good.  He shouldn't be playing.

You are obviously not the most reliable source of answers regarding the 76ers cause you have a well earned reputation of "polishing the turd" especially with respect to their role players and have a positive spin on everything that happens with them. That being said, Noel has only played 30 minutes 3 times in 10 games this month. I haven't seen much written about a wrist injury, and if it is serious enough that they limit his minutes, why risk playing him at all?

You also have said that the team would get better when Wroten (and to a lesser extent Marshall) returned. This has not happened.

TP for expanding my vocabulary

[Moranis]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

I already answered this in the thread.  Covington had a terrible game. Shot horribly, turned the ball over a lot, etc.  Noel has had wrist injuries as well as the eye.  They aren't going to go crazy with his minutes.  He played 27.  That is a pretty solid number (and he didn't play the last couple in a blow out).  I mean Okafor only played 33.  And Stauskas has been horrible all season.  He just isn't good.  He is probably the worst player on that team right now.  He can't hit a shot, he can't defend, he can't dribble, he can't pass, etc.  He just isn't good.  He shouldn't be playing.

You are obviously not the most reliable source of answers regarding the 76ers cause you have a well earned reputation of "polishing the turd" especially with respect to their role players and have a positive spin on everything that happens with them. That being said, Noel has only played 30 minutes 3 times in 10 games this month. I haven't seen much written about a wrist injury, and if it is serious enough that they limit his minutes, why risk playing him at all?

You also have said that the team would get better when Wroten (and to a lesser extent Marshall) returned. This has not happened.

Noel has missed multiple games this year because of a sore wrist.  Pretty easy to google.  I guess laziness just runs rampant on this forum.

Wroten is coming back into form.  He was -1 last night (they were -13 without him on the floor), had 7 assists, 5 rebounds, though just 7 points.  And he played 28 minutes (first time all year more than half the game and only second time more than 20 minutes).  So Philly lost by 1 in the 28 minutes he played and lost by 13 in the 20 minutes he didn't play.  Seems like Wroten makes them better.  I never said Wroten was going to make them a good team, only that they wouldn't be as bad.  You picked an odd game to make that point since Wroten made them better and Marshall didn't even play.

[celticsclay]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

I already answered this in the thread.  Covington had a terrible game. Shot horribly, turned the ball over a lot, etc.  Noel has had wrist injuries as well as the eye.  They aren't going to go crazy with his minutes.  He played 27.  That is a pretty solid number (and he didn't play the last couple in a blow out).  I mean Okafor only played 33.  And Stauskas has been horrible all season.  He just isn't good.  He is probably the worst player on that team right now.  He can't hit a shot, he can't defend, he can't dribble, he can't pass, etc.  He just isn't good.  He shouldn't be playing.

You are obviously not the most reliable source of answers regarding the 76ers cause you have a well earned reputation of "polishing the turd" especially with respect to their role players and have a positive spin on everything that happens with them. That being said, Noel has only played 30 minutes 3 times in 10 games this month. I haven't seen much written about a wrist injury, and if it is serious enough that they limit his minutes, why risk playing him at all?

You also have said that the team would get better when Wroten (and to a lesser extent Marshall) returned. This has not happened.

Noel has missed multiple games this year because of a sore wrist.  Pretty easy to google.  I guess laziness just runs rampant on this forum.

Wroten is coming back into form.  He was -1 last night (they were -13 without him on the floor), had 7 assists, 5 rebounds, though just 7 points.  And he played 28 minutes (first time all year more than half the game and only second time more than 20 minutes).  So Philly lost by 1 in the 28 minutes he played and lost by 13 in the 20 minutes he didn't play.  Seems like Wroten makes them better.  I never said Wroten was going to make them a good team, only that they wouldn't be as bad.  You picked an odd game to make that point since Wroten made them better and Marshall didn't even play.

You at various times have said the following:
Hollis Thompson is an NBA rotation player that would get minutes on the warriors
Robert Covington is an NBA rotation player that would be in any rotation
Tony Wroten is an NBA Calibar rotation player
Jakaar Sampson is ok

You are also very high on Nerlens Noel, Okafor and I believe Grant.

So if they have 6 NBA players and two of them are future stars (possibly a few others, tough to keep your garbage straight, why are they riding an 11 game losing streak when most of those players are healthy? Why will they set the NBA record for losses in a season?

[GreenFaith1819]

Ineptitude.

As I've said in a previous post, they need that CBS Mk 18 for real.

[Irish Stew]

Will Philly look like geniuses if: 1) Embiid comes back fully healthy and plays up to his potential. 2) Saric comes over. 3) We acquire Noel for Brooklyn 2016 and that pick winds up as the 2nd pick in the draft. 4) The Lakers wind up 4th in the lottery thus the pick is conveyed to Philly. 5)Philly wins the lottery with their own pick giving Philly 1,2 and 4 in the draft and get Simmons plus two other valued prospects. 6) With all their cap space they sign two high quality free agents. The difference between genius and fool is often just luck.

[celticsclay]

Us trading a number 2 pick for a guy drafted 6th three years ago showing limited improvement on the third season of his rookie deal crosses the line from luck into stupidity...

[Irish Stew]

Us trading a number 2 pick for a guy drafted 6th three years ago showing limited improvement on the third season of his rookie deal crosses the line from luck into stupidity...

My premise is based on trading it now when we don't know what it will be. If the season ended today, it could be anywhere from 1 to 6.

[Eddie20]

Us trading a number 2 pick for a guy drafted 6th three years ago showing limited improvement on the third season of his rookie deal crosses the line from luck into stupidity...

My premise is based on trading it now when we don't know what it will be.

However, that is a huge risk for a player that has regressed in year 3. Top 5 picks this year all look like much better long term prospects.

[Tr1boy]

playing the draft game until we can draft the next Jordan/Lebron game

very dangerous game that may not pay dividends until 10 years later

what a joke of a team this is

[celticsclay]

Us trading a number 2 pick for a guy drafted 6th three years ago showing limited improvement on the third season of his rookie deal crosses the line from luck into stupidity...

My premise is based on trading it now when we don't know what it will be. If the season ended today, it could be anywhere from 1 to 6.

You realize that for it finish 6th (as of today) two or possibly three teams with worse records would have to jump them? I don't have draft odds in front of me but not sure if three teams from outside the top three have jumped in the same year before in the history of the NBA. In that situation the 76ers would pick 4th (which would be hilarious)

[Moranis]

Us trading a number 2 pick for a guy drafted 6th three years ago showing limited improvement on the third season of his rookie deal crosses the line from luck into stupidity...

My premise is based on trading it now when we don't know what it will be. If the season ended today, it could be anywhere from 1 to 6.

You realize that for it finish 6th (as of today) two or possibly three teams with worse records would have to jump them? I don't have draft odds in front of me but not sure if three teams from outside the top three have jumped in the same year before in the history of the NBA. In that situation the 76ers would pick 4th (which would be hilarious)

2007 draft, Memphis, Boston, and Milwaukee had the worst three records and picked 4th, 5th, and 6th.  Not sure if it has happened any other years, but it has happened at least once.

Brooklyn is currently the 3rd worst team, so theoretically it could draft anywhere from 1 to 6 if the season ended today.  It is only 1 loss worse than New Orleans though.