What are 76ers doing?

[CFAN38]

They should be forever called the Philadelphia Seventy Stinkrers.

And in answer to the OP, what they are doing is trying to buy time so Silver/the owners dont take action against them.

The first step in buying time was hiring Colangelo. Now they are looking to bring in Chuck Hayes and John lucas under the guise of bringing in a veteran presence, neither which will hurt the tank.

Talk about disingenuous.

They are hurting the NBA brand as well the little guy. I went to a Stinker game here in Feb/March last year, and although called a sellout, at least 1/3 of the seats were empty. Great for the fans. My whole group moved up to much better seats. No lines for beer or for anything, even at halftime. Again, great for the fans, not so much for the vendors. Talked to one vendor selling Cs t-shirts in the T station, and the guy said the Stinker games have been bad for business.

The Stinkers are a disgrace.

The fact that they are effecting the leagues bottom line and the businesses (vendors etc) attached to the league should cause some true fireworks at the next draft. I expect them to basically hold tight through this season. But the upcoming off-season I think we will see some major trade and some short term over paying contracts to get this team respectably bad.

My prediction

They go after URFA Brandon Jenning and one of the following Eric Gordon, OJ Mayo, or Gerald Henderson in FA signing both to over priced but shorter length contracts.

In the Draft they are likely to get Simmons or Ingram. If they do not get LAs pick I wouldn't be shocked to see them trade Noel on draft day in a package to get Dunn or Murray. These moves plus the addition of Saric could see the following rotation for next season

PG Jennings
SG Gordon
SF Saric
PF Covington /Simmons
C  Okafor
6th Ingram / Covington
7th Dunn
8th Grant
9th Embiid ?

[manl_lui]

they are a disgrace to the NBA and to their fans. The NBA should do something about this...like how long can you or be allowed to tank? Should be some sort of fine if you miss playoffs after x amount of years or something

[BballTim]

They seriously might go down as the worst team of all time, at least the worst basketball team of all time.

  Clearly this. They were understandably upset that someone took their "worst team ever" mantle, so they're on a quest to bring it back to Philly. Well, either that or a title, but only one of the two was actually achievable.

[slamtheking]

And yet, if they get Ben Simmons, this will allllllllllllllllllllllllllll be worth it.

And if they do land him, get ready for Hinkie clone wars.

I seriously doubt it.

these past several years (since the Bennett #1 draft), there's been talk of players in the draft being the next big thing.  While several of them have turned out to be very good prospects, none of them have been good enough to carry a team to the promised land or at least the playoffs. 

Philly is incredibly mismanaged and set that franchise back a number of years before they'll be relevant again by following this philosophy.  Minny is an example of a franchise that following a smarter path while acquiring top draft talent.  They've brought in smart players as leaders, did not rid themselves of any players capable of contributing (and the one they did - Love - brought back significant assets) and they have diversified their young assets such that they don't all play the same position-->Towns, Wiggins and Lavine can all be on the court at the same time as opposed to Philly who can't play Noel, Embiid and Okafor all at the same time.

There will be no Hinkie clones

[Moranis]

And yet, if they get Ben Simmons, this will allllllllllllllllllllllllllll be worth it.

And if they do land him, get ready for Hinkie clone wars.

I seriously doubt it.

these past several years (since the Bennett #1 draft), there's been talk of players in the draft being the next big thing.  While several of them have turned out to be very good prospects, none of them have been good enough to carry a team to the promised land or at least the playoffs. 

Philly is incredibly mismanaged and set that franchise back a number of years before they'll be relevant again by following this philosophy.  Minny is an example of a franchise that following a smarter path while acquiring top draft talent.  They've brought in smart players as leaders, did not rid themselves of any players capable of contributing (and the one they did - Love - brought back significant assets) and they have diversified their young assets such that they don't all play the same position-->Towns, Wiggins and Lavine can all be on the court at the same time as opposed to Philly who can't play Noel, Embiid and Okafor all at the same time.

There will be no Hinkie clones

I think there is a good chance other teams will replicate the Philly method, but won't go crazy on the injured players like Philly did.  Though in a vacuum it is hard to say that Noel and Embiid were the wrong selections at the time.  Frankly if Embiid hadn't been re-injured you would have seen a different strategy last year and Philly would have moved the pick to a team that wanted Okafor (maybe a swap with the Knicks and an extra asset or two as an example).  And Philly would have likely drafted Mudiay.  Been a really different perspective on the team if they were starting Embiid, Noel, Covington, Thompson and Mudiay with guys like Wroten, Staukas, etc. on the bench.  Team would still be bad, but would have a whole different feel.  The Embiid re-injury is what set the tone last summer.

[colincb]

Change may be coming soon on the vet mentor front at least.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20151223_76ers_players_back_idea_to_add_veterans.html

The Sixers are locked into the worst record, just a matter if they set all-time records. Simmons or not, the Sixers will change their MO next season.

[BballTim]

And yet, if they get Ben Simmons, this will allllllllllllllllllllllllllll be worth it.

And if they do land him, get ready for Hinkie clone wars.

I seriously doubt it.

these past several years (since the Bennett #1 draft), there's been talk of players in the draft being the next big thing.  While several of them have turned out to be very good prospects, none of them have been good enough to carry a team to the promised land or at least the playoffs. 

Philly is incredibly mismanaged and set that franchise back a number of years before they'll be relevant again by following this philosophy.  Minny is an example of a franchise that following a smarter path while acquiring top draft talent.  They've brought in smart players as leaders, did not rid themselves of any players capable of contributing (and the one they did - Love - brought back significant assets) and they have diversified their young assets such that they don't all play the same position-->Towns, Wiggins and Lavine can all be on the court at the same time as opposed to Philly who can't play Noel, Embiid and Okafor all at the same time.

There will be no Hinkie clones

I think there is a good chance other teams will replicate the Philly method, but won't go crazy on the injured players like Philly did.

  There's nothing at all innovative about the "Philly method", which basically amounts to shedding salary and sucking. That's why measures to discourage tanking came into existence 30 or so years ago.

[slamtheking]

And yet, if they get Ben Simmons, this will allllllllllllllllllllllllllll be worth it.

And if they do land him, get ready for Hinkie clone wars.

I seriously doubt it.

these past several years (since the Bennett #1 draft), there's been talk of players in the draft being the next big thing.  While several of them have turned out to be very good prospects, none of them have been good enough to carry a team to the promised land or at least the playoffs. 

Philly is incredibly mismanaged and set that franchise back a number of years before they'll be relevant again by following this philosophy.  Minny is an example of a franchise that following a smarter path while acquiring top draft talent.  They've brought in smart players as leaders, did not rid themselves of any players capable of contributing (and the one they did - Love - brought back significant assets) and they have diversified their young assets such that they don't all play the same position-->Towns, Wiggins and Lavine can all be on the court at the same time as opposed to Philly who can't play Noel, Embiid and Okafor all at the same time.

There will be no Hinkie clones

I think there is a good chance other teams will replicate the Philly method, but won't go crazy on the injured players like Philly did.  Though in a vacuum it is hard to say that Noel and Embiid were the wrong selections at the time.  Frankly if Embiid hadn't been re-injured you would have seen a different strategy last year and Philly would have moved the pick to a team that wanted Okafor (maybe a swap with the Knicks and an extra asset or two as an example).  And Philly would have likely drafted Mudiay.  Been a really different perspective on the team if they were starting Embiid, Noel, Covington, Thompson and Mudiay with guys like Wroten, Staukas, etc. on the bench.  Team would still be bad, but would have a whole different feel.  The Embiid re-injury is what set the tone last summer.

I don't think they'll replicate Philly.  no way could I see another franchise intentionally getting bad enough to be the worst team ever for years on end in the hopes of striking lightning with a high draft pick. 

I don't disagree that they took the BPA at the time they selected but I think that they should have been looking to move this year's pick to drop back a few spots and pick up more picks/young players to expedite their rebuild.  To me, that would be the smarter move as well as having drawn some praise from other areas and shown that there is indeed an intention by the front office to eventually improve the team and not put all their eggs in the "oh god I need the top draft pick and he needs to be the next coming of Lebron" basket

[colincb]

I hadn't noticed this, but the Sixers (and it sure isn't Hinkie) have brought in another BB mind in Mike D'Antoni:

This season, the Sixers have been in numerous games until the very end. The sad fact is that despite their high energy, these young players don’t have the poise to close out games down the stretch. It’s been the story all year for the Sixers. They’ve been in games, only to see their leads dissipate down the stretch.

Hinkie’s methods don’t make a whole lot of sense, as a team stock-piled with inexperienced players and no leaders is almost pre-determined to fail. But that’s probably why the Sixers brought in two great basketball minds in Jerry Colangelo and Mike D’Antoni. Since the arrival of the two, there have been talks to bring in some veteran players, albeit in a non-playing role.

“Other sources said the Sixers are talking to former star Elton Brand and NBA veteran Shane Battier about joining the organization, hoping to bring in guys with sterling reputations to serve as role models for young players,” Fox Sports writes.

The change is welcomed, and it’s also necessary. Hinkie’s plan of loading up with young talent looks good on paper, but that young talent needs some guidance. It doesn’t matter whom the Sixers select with their numerous draft picks. If they can’t bring in some veteran players in the offseason, the rebuild will continue.

http://thesixersense.com/2015/12/23/philadelphia-76ers-get-leader-expect-rebuilding/

[Eddie20]

Love this...

“I'm the hardest-working guy on this team,” Stauskas said. “I know no other person on this team that’s putting in the hours I do. That’s really all I can control at this time. I just know that over time that’s going to pay off.”

[celticsclay]

I guess this got a little sidetracked from what I was trying to ask, as often happens discussing the 76ers.

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

Noel has only played 30 minutes a game 3 times out of 10 this month. He did have an eye injury but that shouldn't impact his stamina.

If these guys are their legit future prospects, and they are not going to cause them to win games, why not give them the 34 minutes a night old friend joe johnson gets?

[colincb]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba-news/4688941-nba-results-schedule-scores-fifth-quarter-kobe-bryant-lakers-western-conference-streak

A little nugget:

Dud of the Night

It looked for a moment like the 76ers were about to put forth their best performance this season against the Grizzlies (16-14). But they had the play the second half, and that's when things turned a familiar hue for Philadelphia, which lost 104-90 after having led for part of the first half. The 76ers committed 28 turnovers, their second-most this season and their fourth game of 25 or more. The rest of the NBA has three such games. Naturally, the 76ers became to first team in NBA history to start a season 1-29.

[kozlodoev]

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

I'm guessing they think they'd win too many games otherwise.

[colincb]

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

I'm guessing they think they'd win too many games otherwise.

Covington's playing 28.3 and Noe'sl 29.6 minutes per game.

Staukas has the next to last PER on a 1-29 team and his defensive numbers suck too. Same as last year. To think we could have had him in exchange for our 16th pick...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/2016.html

[celticsclay]

Why is Stauskas completely out of the rotation?
Why is Covington only playing 23 minutes?
Why Noel only 27?

I'm guessing they think they'd win too many games otherwise.

Is this really a serious response? They have one win and are riding an 11 game losing streak. They have 4 less wins than the Lakers already. You think they can't play anyone right now for a win for moral?