Danny Puts an End to Cousins Rumors. Seeks Consistent Scorer

[hpantazo]

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Ainge was asked about DeMarcus Cousins and while he refused to talk about him by name, he downplayed any interest in a guy that could be disruptive.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to have players that are disruptive to your team, on the court and off the court.

This is why I don't believe Danny (at least about disrupting the locker room):

Exhibit A (and he actually traded 2 highly regarded locker room guys for him too!)


Exhibit B


Exhibit C

During the 2004–05 season, Miles made headlines after a confrontation with then-coach Maurice Cheeks in which Miles reportedly insulted Cheeks with racial slurs and remarked he "did not care if the team were to lose the next 20 games" since Cheeks was "going to be fired anyway". According to ESPN's Chad Ford and other accounts, after Cheeks asked Miles to leave, Miles' response was "Make me." When Cheeks left the room to see Blazers' general manager John Nash, Miles ran behind him shouting, "That's right, run to your daddy."

Exhibit D


Exhibit E


Exhibit F

And since these clowns has he brought in another troublemakers?

Marcus Smart is a hothead. Sully was allegedly involved with domestic violence. Evan Turner isn't particularly well-liked and was run out of Indy after fighting with teammates.

Smart has flare ups which is not the same to Cousins constant moodiness.

Cousins is a dominant NBA player, which is not the same as Smart.

Look, anyone who thinks what Ainge said on T&R yesterday means he won't trade for Cousins if given the opportunity has their head up their... well, somewhere it wasn't meant to fit.

Sure my friend. And those who think Ainge is lying even to himself forgot to take their morning pill

There is no need to be overly suspicious.  Like --you said you won't but I know you will-- business.  Unless you can't accept what crazy Ainge is saying because your agenda is Cousins must become a Celtic(and also he will become a saint once he becomes a Celtic). Then you might be living in a dream world.  BTW no offense to some of you dreamers

I'm not your friend. And I'm not a dreamer. I don't think the Cs will have the opportunity to get Cousins this year, because I don't believe the Kings have any interest in trading him. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't think you have the first clue what you're talking about.

I don't have to have a clue. It came from the horses mouth.

You are the one without a clue when the clue (without ainge mentioning cousins name directly) is dangling In front of your face. Or you are wyc hence you can overrides ainge opinion

There are lies, [dang] lies and the stuff GMs say about possible trades.  Ainge didn't actually say anything definitive.  He may not be willing to give up as much for someone of Cousin's talent level as he normally would because of Cousins possible disruptiveness.  However if he could get Cousins for good value, I can't see him not making the trade.

Even just for a 1st for Cousins would he? I question this. Because guys from the Spurs, GSW, Celtics (Crowder, Lee) have pointed out, teams like theirs are looking to add guys with character and don't cause external issues in any way.And this also includes trouble in he locker room, having mood swings attacks etc.

How many guys like that are on GSW, Spurs , Celtics squad currently?  None .  the coach then gets to concentrate on the important stuff

Cousins might buy into things but most likely will not. Same with a guy like harden.  It's not so much how much you have to give up or how little you have to give up to obtain but what happens after the trade and with their influences on the team.

Depends on what they mean when they say guys with character and no off court issues. Cousins has no off court issues. He has no reports of DUIs, drug abuse, domestic abuse, rape, bar fights, etc. His only so called 'character issue' is wanting too much to win and complaining with his coaches. Sounds more similar to guys like Larry Bird and Michael Jordan than anything else to me.

[Tr1boy]

Danny was willing to trade for Ricky Davis. And take Antoine back.  He can deal with Cousins.

No , he and CBS doesn't have to

[Tr1boy]

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Ainge was asked about DeMarcus Cousins and while he refused to talk about him by name, he downplayed any interest in a guy that could be disruptive.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to have players that are disruptive to your team, on the court and off the court.

This is why I don't believe Danny (at least about disrupting the locker room):

Exhibit A (and he actually traded 2 highly regarded locker room guys for him too!)


Exhibit B


Exhibit C

During the 2004–05 season, Miles made headlines after a confrontation with then-coach Maurice Cheeks in which Miles reportedly insulted Cheeks with racial slurs and remarked he "did not care if the team were to lose the next 20 games" since Cheeks was "going to be fired anyway". According to ESPN's Chad Ford and other accounts, after Cheeks asked Miles to leave, Miles' response was "Make me." When Cheeks left the room to see Blazers' general manager John Nash, Miles ran behind him shouting, "That's right, run to your daddy."

Exhibit D


Exhibit E


Exhibit F

And since these clowns has he brought in another troublemakers?

Marcus Smart is a hothead. Sully was allegedly involved with domestic violence. Evan Turner isn't particularly well-liked and was run out of Indy after fighting with teammates.

Smart has flare ups which is not the same to Cousins constant moodiness.

Cousins is a dominant NBA player, which is not the same as Smart.

Look, anyone who thinks what Ainge said on T&R yesterday means he won't trade for Cousins if given the opportunity has their head up their... well, somewhere it wasn't meant to fit.

Sure my friend. And those who think Ainge is lying even to himself forgot to take their morning pill

There is no need to be overly suspicious.  Like --you said you won't but I know you will-- business.  Unless you can't accept what crazy Ainge is saying because your agenda is Cousins must become a Celtic(and also he will become a saint once he becomes a Celtic). Then you might be living in a dream world.  BTW no offense to some of you dreamers

I'm not your friend. And I'm not a dreamer. I don't think the Cs will have the opportunity to get Cousins this year, because I don't believe the Kings have any interest in trading him. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't think you have the first clue what you're talking about.

I don't have to have a clue. It came from the horses mouth.

You are the one without a clue when the clue (without ainge mentioning cousins name directly) is dangling In front of your face. Or you are wyc hence you can overrides ainge opinion

There are lies, [dang] lies and the stuff GMs say about possible trades.  Ainge didn't actually say anything definitive.  He may not be willing to give up as much for someone of Cousin's talent level as he normally would because of Cousins possible disruptiveness.  However if he could get Cousins for good value, I can't see him not making the trade.

Even just for a 1st for Cousins would he? I question this. Because guys from the Spurs, GSW, Celtics (Crowder, Lee) have pointed out, teams like theirs are looking to add guys with character and don't cause external issues in any way.And this also includes trouble in he locker room, having mood swings attacks etc.

How many guys like that are on GSW, Spurs , Celtics squad currently?  None .  the coach then gets to concentrate on the important stuff

Cousins might buy into things but most likely will not. Same with a guy like harden.  It's not so much how much you have to give up or how little you have to give up to obtain but what happens after the trade and with their influences on the team.

Depends on what they mean when they say guys with character and no off court issues. Cousins has no off court issues. He has no reports of DUIs, drug abuse, domestic abuse, rape, bar fights, etc. His only so called 'character issue' is wanting too much to win and complaining with his coaches. Sounds more similar to guys like Larry Bird and Michael Jordan than anything else to me.

Larry and Jordan are the last people you want to compare cousins to

These two not only had their heads screwed on straight on the court but they were great leaders.

Cousins on the other hand easily gets rattled on the court and provides little to no leadership for the rest of the team. Actually is an embarrassment. The Celtic fans in the stands,media will chew him out. He might just beg Danny to trade him back to sac

[tazzmaniac]

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Ainge was asked about DeMarcus Cousins and while he refused to talk about him by name, he downplayed any interest in a guy that could be disruptive.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to have players that are disruptive to your team, on the court and off the court.

This is why I don't believe Danny (at least about disrupting the locker room):

Exhibit A (and he actually traded 2 highly regarded locker room guys for him too!)


Exhibit B


Exhibit C

During the 2004–05 season, Miles made headlines after a confrontation with then-coach Maurice Cheeks in which Miles reportedly insulted Cheeks with racial slurs and remarked he "did not care if the team were to lose the next 20 games" since Cheeks was "going to be fired anyway". According to ESPN's Chad Ford and other accounts, after Cheeks asked Miles to leave, Miles' response was "Make me." When Cheeks left the room to see Blazers' general manager John Nash, Miles ran behind him shouting, "That's right, run to your daddy."

Exhibit D


Exhibit E


Exhibit F

And since these clowns has he brought in another troublemakers?

Marcus Smart is a hothead. Sully was allegedly involved with domestic violence. Evan Turner isn't particularly well-liked and was run out of Indy after fighting with teammates.

Smart has flare ups which is not the same to Cousins constant moodiness.

Cousins is a dominant NBA player, which is not the same as Smart.

Look, anyone who thinks what Ainge said on T&R yesterday means he won't trade for Cousins if given the opportunity has their head up their... well, somewhere it wasn't meant to fit.

Sure my friend. And those who think Ainge is lying even to himself forgot to take their morning pill

There is no need to be overly suspicious.  Like --you said you won't but I know you will-- business.  Unless you can't accept what crazy Ainge is saying because your agenda is Cousins must become a Celtic(and also he will become a saint once he becomes a Celtic). Then you might be living in a dream world.  BTW no offense to some of you dreamers

I'm not your friend. And I'm not a dreamer. I don't think the Cs will have the opportunity to get Cousins this year, because I don't believe the Kings have any interest in trading him. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't think you have the first clue what you're talking about.

I don't have to have a clue. It came from the horses mouth.

You are the one without a clue when the clue (without ainge mentioning cousins name directly) is dangling In front of your face. Or you are wyc hence you can overrides ainge opinion

There are lies, [dang] lies and the stuff GMs say about possible trades.  Ainge didn't actually say anything definitive.  He may not be willing to give up as much for someone of Cousin's talent level as he normally would because of Cousins possible disruptiveness.  However if he could get Cousins for good value, I can't see him not making the trade.

Even just for a 1st for Cousins would he? I question this. Because guys from the Spurs, GSW, Celtics (Crowder, Lee) have pointed out, teams like theirs are looking to add guys with character and don't cause external issues in any way.And this also includes trouble in he locker room, having mood swings attacks etc.

How many guys like that are on GSW, Spurs , Celtics squad currently?  None .  the coach then gets to concentrate on the important stuff

Cousins might buy into things but most likely will not. Same with a guy like harden.  It's not so much how much you have to give up or how little you have to give up to obtain but what happens after the trade and with their influences on the team.

Depends on what they mean when they say guys with character and no off court issues. Cousins has no off court issues. He has no reports of DUIs, drug abuse, domestic abuse, rape, bar fights, etc. His only so called 'character issue' is wanting too much to win and complaining with his coaches. Sounds more similar to guys like Larry Bird and Michael Jordan than anything else to me.

I was mostly with you until the last sentence.  Cousins isn't definitely not Bird or Jordan.  I haven't see anything yet to indicate Cousins would provide good leadership to the team.  However, adding his talent to the team would help immensely.  You can bring in vets with good leadership/locker room presence if you need it and they don't need to play significant minutes   

The big question would be how well Cousins and Stevens would work together.  Before Cousins got sick last year the Kings were winning and the Cousins/Malone relationship seemed quite good.  Then the dysfunctional Kings got rid of Malone.  Between the Kings lousy management/ownership and seven straight losing seasons of less than 30 wins, Cousins issues are somewhat understandable.  We're obviously a much better organization.  So my question is how do Stevens and Malone's coaching styles and mostly player interactions compare?   The only reason I wouldn't want to trade for Cousins is if Ainge doesn't think Stevens can coach him. 

[snively]

NYK has a lot fewer reasons to keep Melo than Sac does Cousins.

[tazzmaniac]

NYK has a lot fewer reasons to keep Melo than Sac does Cousins.

I agree but Melo has a no trade clause.  Melo's much bigger contract would also make him more difficult to move during the season. 

[TheTruthFot18]

I'm not your friend. And I'm not a dreamer. I don't think the Cs will have the opportunity to get Cousins this year, because I don't believe the Kings have any interest in trading him. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't think you have the first clue what you're talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng

Tell me I'm not the only one who saw this. One of my all time favorite SP running jokes.

[Roy H.]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

Pretty much what I was thinking of... inciting the Kings to finally trade Cousins since he's disruptive so they're better off trading him away. To US.

[Evantime34]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

TP

I feel that how people took the quotes has a ton to do with their opinion of Cousins before reading the quotes.

[Snakehead]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

Exactly.

I don't read anything into that disruptive player question either.  Ainge just answered the targeted question he was given but that means nothing.  He only said if a player was disruptive.  Not Cousins.

I think Cousins is just what Ainge wants.  The guy puts up consistently great numbers and people have their issues with the rest but I think they miss how consistently good he is.  Like he has games where he doesn't show up at all or issues with consistency. 

For me it's a no brainer to get Cousins.  I think his attitude would go towards winning here even if there may be occasional Rasheed Wallace-ish moments.  Going from the worst NBA franchise to one of the best can do wonders for a player.   I think he really cares about winning in a way that Ainge appreciates even if Cousins is a bit more of a loose cannon with it than guys like Smart and Crowder.  And not as selfless (though we can use a guy who wants to be a little selfish and be the man frankly).  But I think it's not so different of a fire than those guys have. 

Crowder brought up before how when he first came to the Celtics and they were a bad losing team he wanted to ask for a trade out of here.

I may have already written basically this same post in another Cousins thread but I just find the disdain for him from some really missing the context for what else is going on around Cousins and how good he is and how much he produces on the court.  I think if we ever have a chance to trade for him I would jump at the chance.

[max215]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

I wish I could give you two TPs!

[Tr1boy]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

Exactly.

I don't read anything into that disruptive player question either.  Ainge just answered the targeted question he was given but that means nothing.  He only said if a player was disruptive.  Not Cousins.

I think Cousins is just what Ainge wants.  The guy puts up consistently great numbers and people have their issues with the rest but I think they miss how consistently good he is.  Like he has games where he doesn't show up at all or issues with consistency. 

For me it's a no brainer to get Cousins.  I think his attitude would go towards winning here even if there may be occasional Rasheed Wallace-ish moments.  Going from the worst NBA franchise to one of the best can do wonders for a player.   I think he really cares about winning in a way that Ainge appreciates even if Cousins is a bit more of a loose cannon with it than guys like Smart and Crowder.  And not as selfless (though we can use a guy who wants to be a little selfish and be the man frankly).  But I think it's not so different of a fire than those guys have. 

Crowder brought up before how when he first came to the Celtics and they were a bad losing team he wanted to ask for a trade out of here.

I may have already written basically this same post in another Cousins thread but I just find the disdain for him from some really missing the context for what else is going on around Cousins and how good he is and how much he produces on the court.  I think if we ever have a chance to trade for him I would jump at the chance.

Where can I purchase the denial pill you ate before writing your post.  So I can eat it before checking out the

Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states he's seeking a "go-to" scoring big thread

Lol. You got to be kidding me.

[Tr1boy]

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Ainge was asked about DeMarcus Cousins and while he refused to talk about him by name, he downplayed any interest in a guy that could be disruptive.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to have players that are disruptive to your team, on the court and off the court.

Right out the horses mouth and there is a debate.

I guess he was asked about Cousins and is talking about Mark Blount

Maybe he is insane. Or I'm on insano pills today

[Tr1boy]

I feel like starting a parallel thread:  "Danny stokes flames of Cousins rumors; states that he's seeking a big who scores consistently".

It's every bit as accurate as this thread title, if not more so.

Exactly.

I don't read anything into that disruptive player question either.  Ainge just answered the targeted question he was given but that means nothing.  He only said if a player was disruptive.  Not Cousins.

I think Cousins is just what Ainge wants.  The guy puts up consistently great numbers and people have their issues with the rest but I think they miss how consistently good he is.  Like he has games where he doesn't show up at all or issues with consistency. 

For me it's a no brainer to get Cousins.  I think his attitude would go towards winning here even if there may be occasional Rasheed Wallace-ish moments.  Going from the worst NBA franchise to one of the best can do wonders for a player.   I think he really cares about winning in a way that Ainge appreciates even if Cousins is a bit more of a loose cannon with it than guys like Smart and Crowder.  And not as selfless (though we can use a guy who wants to be a little selfish and be the man frankly).  But I think it's not so different of a fire than those guys have. 

Crowder brought up before how when he first came to the Celtics and they were a bad losing team he wanted to ask for a trade out of here.

I may have already written basically this same post in another Cousins thread but I just find the disdain for him from some really missing the context for what else is going on around Cousins and how good he is and how much he produces on the court.  I think if we ever have a chance to trade for him I would jump at the chance.

Ron Artest career suffered bc he couldn't keep his cool. JR Smith would be even better than he is today if he was not such a dirtbag/put in more effort. Stupid anticts after stupid anticts

And he has been told, suspended etc. Still does whatever

Cousins is under a great coach with a wicked resume.  He doesn't listen to him and just acts up on the court like he is a victim 24/7.  Has fights with opponents (like Horford recently). Cousins is near impossible. Sad because he is no doubt talented

He should actually want to be traded to the Spurs if he wants to be serious about winning.  Go through some navy discipline. Popovich won't have any of cousins crap/anticts