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Is it feasible to trade for Gasol without losing Nets 2016 1st?
« on: December 17, 2015, 05:09:01 PM »

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I have to wonder if a trade for Gasol is possible without using the Nets 2016 1st.

Does a package of Smart, Lee, Sully, Zeller, Cs 2016 and Mavs 2016 land Gasol?

Is that an over pay?

One thought I have is that if this trade works, then step two is a minor deal to try to land K Martin. Such as the filler pieces that would be coming from Memphis and multiple 2nds for Martin? Im really not sure what Minn expect for Martin.

If this works the Cs would have the following roster

PG IT, Turner, Rozier
SG AB, Martin, Hunter
SF Crowder, Jerebko, Young
PF Amir, KO, Mickey
C  Gasol

The loss of Smart would hurt but Gasol would be a player to take this team to the next level. In retaining the 2016 Nets pick the Cs would have the potential to add a high upside player at the 3 or 4 spot.
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Re: Is it feasible to trade for Gasol without losing Nets 2016 1st?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 08:02:11 PM »

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No.

My follow up question is who constructs a better package for gasol?
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Re: Is it feasible to trade for Gasol without losing Nets 2016 1st?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 09:01:53 PM »

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I have to wonder if a trade for Gasol is possible without using the Nets 2016 1st.

Does a package of Smart, Lee, Sully, Zeller, Cs 2016 and Mavs 2016 land Gasol?

Is that an over pay?

One thought I have is that if this trade works, then step two is a minor deal to try to land K Martin. Such as the filler pieces that would be coming from Memphis and multiple 2nds for Martin? Im really not sure what Minn expect for Martin.

If this works the Cs would have the following roster

PG IT, Turner, Rozier
SG AB, Martin, Hunter
SF Crowder, Jerebko, Young
PF Amir, KO, Mickey
C  Gasol

The loss of Smart would hurt but Gasol would be a player to take this team to the next level. In retaining the 2016 Nets pick the Cs would have the potential to add a high upside player at the 3 or 4 spot.

The answer to your first question is absolutely.

The answer to your second question is also absolutely.....absolutely far too much of an overpay.

Gasol is 35..... What's his potential window with us 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years max?
Secondly, he can and WILL opt out of his contract at the end of this year, unless he gets injured >>>>>lose-lose for us. Far too much of an overpay for a rental .

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 09:04:58 PM »

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I have to wonder if a trade for Gasol is possible without using the Nets 2016 1st.

Does a package of Smart, Lee, Sully, Zeller, Cs 2016 and Mavs 2016 land Gasol?

Is that an over pay?

One thought I have is that if this trade works, then step two is a minor deal to try to land K Martin. Such as the filler pieces that would be coming from Memphis and multiple 2nds for Martin? Im really not sure what Minn expect for Martin.

If this works the Cs would have the following roster

PG IT, Turner, Rozier
SG AB, Martin, Hunter
SF Crowder, Jerebko, Young
PF Amir, KO, Mickey
C  Gasol

The loss of Smart would hurt but Gasol would be a player to take this team to the next level. In retaining the 2016 Nets pick the Cs would have the potential to add a high upside player at the 3 or 4 spot.

The answer to your first question is absolutely.

The answer to your second question is also absolutely.....absolutely far too much of an overpay.

Gasol is 35..... What's his potential window with us 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years max?
Secondly, he can and WILL opt out of his contract at the end of this year, unless he gets injured >>>>>lose-lose for us. Far too much of an overpay for a rental .

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2015, 09:19:35 PM »

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I'd rather have Ben Simmons

Re: Is it feasible to trade for Gasol without losing Nets 2016 1st?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 09:23:15 PM »

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I have to wonder if a trade for Gasol is possible without using the Nets 2016 1st.

Does a package of Smart, Lee, Sully, Zeller, Cs 2016 and Mavs 2016 land Gasol?

Is that an over pay?

One thought I have is that if this trade works, then step two is a minor deal to try to land K Martin. Such as the filler pieces that would be coming from Memphis and multiple 2nds for Martin? Im really not sure what Minn expect for Martin.

If this works the Cs would have the following roster

PG IT, Turner, Rozier
SG AB, Martin, Hunter
SF Crowder, Jerebko, Young
PF Amir, KO, Mickey
C  Gasol

The loss of Smart would hurt but Gasol would be a player to take this team to the next level. In retaining the 2016 Nets pick the Cs would have the potential to add a high upside player at the 3 or 4 spot.

The answer to your first question is absolutely.

The answer to your second question is also absolutely.....absolutely far too much of an overpay.

Gasol is 35..... What's his potential window with us 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years max?
Secondly, he can and WILL opt out of his contract at the end of this year, unless he gets injured >>>>>lose-lose for us. Far too much of an overpay for a rental .

Marc not pau

Of course!!!...my bad.... Getting old here.....been reading do much of the whole Bulls front court being in trade rumors, I ASSuMEd....wrongly.

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 09:46:37 PM »

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I wrote out something that I now realize is an obscene overpay.  But man I would love him here.

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 11:34:59 PM »

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I'd rather have Ben Simmons

The objective to this post was to bring up a possible situation that puts the Cs in position for both.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 06:10:24 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 08:05:38 AM »

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My biggest concern is the way the game is going does Gasol fit with so many teams going small? Also you can get Poeltl with those two first and keep all the rest of those pieces if you want a similar big via draft. Gasol is a nice third piece on a team but as a third piece I'm not giving up 2 first and Marcus for that. Rather do Marcus for Noel straight up.

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 08:36:29 AM »

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My biggest concern is the way the game is going does Gasol fit with so many teams going small? Also you can get Poeltl with those two first and keep all the rest of those pieces if you want a similar big via draft. Gasol is a nice third piece on a team but as a third piece I'm not giving up 2 first and Marcus for that. Rather do Marcus for Noel straight up.

I agree that the current style of the nba has moved away from the big traditional center however gasol is a great passer and capable mid range shooter. This alows him to still provide space on offence. His value on defense would turn this team into elite on that side of the ball. As for poetlt he is a great prospect bu I suspect he will climb into the top 10 come draft time puttin him out of the reach for the Cs unless they have to use nets pick on him.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 08:48:39 AM »

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My biggest concern is the way the game is going does Gasol fit with so many teams going small? Also you can get Poeltl with those two first and keep all the rest of those pieces if you want a similar big via draft. Gasol is a nice third piece on a team but as a third piece I'm not giving up 2 first and Marcus for that. Rather do Marcus for Noel straight up.

I agree that the current style of the nba has moved away from the big traditional center however gasol is a great passer and capable mid range shooter. This alows him to still provide space on offence. His value on defense would turn this team into elite on that side of the ball. As for poetlt he is a great prospect bu I suspect he will climb into the top 10 come draft time puttin him out of the reach for the Cs unless they have to use nets pick on him.
C's are already a top 7 in defense and all the bigs here can pass and shoot midrange. Gasol is an upgrade no doubt but he doesn't bring anything new skill wise just size. Again with the game speeding up not so good.
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i don't understand this desire to package all our young guys to land a star that's already in their mid 30s.  it would cost a ton of assets just in order to get your first piece of a guy you'd be hoping other stars want to play with, and you have maybe a 3 year window of prime career left in order to build a championship roster with, before we'd be inevitably stuck with an aging roster, making lots of money, and prohibiting flexibility.  i get that it worked once before, but we already had our first star in PP.  here we're talking about essentially needing to trade first for an in his late prime PP, AND THEN ALSO figuring out a way to acquire the Ray and KG. the idea of diving headfirst into the opportunity to have a 2-3 year championship window just doens't make sense to me when the alternative is to slow play and let chemistry and morale develop amongst our young guys.  if we're trading for anyone i'd hope it's either a star still in his young prime or veterans that are great lockerroom guys and have some use but wouldn't cost a motherload to acquire (Amir would be an example of this type of player)

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2015, 10:41:32 AM »

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Would this be enough?

Trade Amir, Sully, Rozier, Own pick, Twolves pick and right to swap in 2017 witht he nets?
for Marc Gasol

Why for memphis...if they are blowing it up......amir and sully are poor mans zbo and marc. Rozier may development into a very nice replacement to conley and they get 2 first round picks


then I would go after Gallinari.

Trade Turner, Young, Jerebko, Dallas Pick, 2 second rounders(one being = to a late first with philly)

Why for denver? Get to tank more, add james young to go with young core of Mudiay, Nurkic and Faried. Plus they get picks.


Final roster:

Smart/IT
Bradley/Hunter
Gallo/Crowder
KO/Mickey
Marc/Zeller