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If we replaced Amir and Sully with DeAndre and Love, would we be a true contender?

Yes, a top 10-15 player and all defensive center would complete us
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No, we'd still need another key scorer
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Offline chambers

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Our defensive power on the perimeter is what we hang our hat on. We need another scorer and while Amir is great, DeAndre would be a clear upgrade over Amir.

Given the strength of our perimeter foursome of
Smart
Bradley
IT
Crowder

If we added Love and DJ I think we'd be a genuine championship contender. Perhaps not the favorite, but more of a Dirk Nowitzki/Tyson Chandler Dallas contender.
Perhaps not on a Golden State/Spurs level...but a serious threat to win the East and upset any team in the West.

Obviously top 10-15 players and all defensive centers don't grow on trees, but we don't necessarily need Durant, Davis or Lebron given how weak the East is.

We really aren't that far away from being a phenomenal team.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Why Love when you have KO, who literally break him in the playoff
And also not a fan of DJ

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Our defensive power on the perimeter is what we hang our hat on. We need another scorer and while Amir is great, DeAndre would be a clear upgrade over Amir.

Given the strength of our perimeter foursome of
Smart
Bradley
IT
Crowder

If we added Love and DJ I think we'd be a genuine championship contender. Perhaps not the favorite, but more of a Dirk Nowitzki/Tyson Chandler Dallas contender.
Perhaps not on a Golden State/Spurs level...but a serious threat to win the East and upset any team in the West.

Obviously top 10-15 players and all defensive centers don't grow on trees, but we don't necessarily need Durant, Davis or Lebron given how weak the East is.

We really aren't that far away from being a phenomenal team.
If you added Love and DJ caliber players to most teams, they'd be championship contenders.  The problem is those type of players aren't much easier to acquire than the top level stars.     

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Probably need another perimeter scorer. Celtics get by with Smart, Bradley and Crowder in large part because they have two skilled bigs to help create extra spacing. Someone like DeAndre Jordan takes away from that. Puts more pressure on the perimeter players. So I think the team would probably need weapon on perimeter to counter-balance that.

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Love does not have a history of leading his team anywhere, recall his great playoff runs in MIN?   That is because they did not happen.

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Why Love when you have KO, who literally break him in the playoff
And also not a fan of DJ

I love Kelly but love is ten times better.

To answer the OP. Yes they would.

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Love does not have a history of leading his team anywhere, recall his great playoff runs in MIN?   That is because they did not happen.

What help did he ever have?
Ricky Rubio and Peckovic?
That Western conference has been brutal for 10 years.

Love with a team like ours is a completely different story.

Replace Sully with Love and put a great defensive center next to love and you have a powerhouse team.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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I think we become a team that is about as good as Memphis was the last few years.  In the hunt but not a true championship team.  And that does not even take into consideration what we may have to give up to get them.

I don't consider Jordan a star and I don't think Love is enough of a star.  Love is not even doing all that well as the #2 star on Cleveland, I don't see how you could expect him to be a #1 star on the Celtics. 

Jordan has Chris Paul and Griffin and can't win it all.  But we would with Jordan, Love and IT?  It just doesn't seem to add up.

Rebuilding to a true championship level is not easy.  You need to be lucky and good.  Jordan and Love are fine players and would probably improve us (again, depending on what we give up), but I don't see them taking us to the promised land.

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I think we become a team that is about as good as Memphis was the last few years.  In the hunt but not a true championship team.  And that does not even take into consideration what we may have to give up to get them.

I don't consider Jordan a star and I don't think Love is enough of a star.  Love is not even doing all that well as the #2 star on Cleveland, I don't see how you could expect him to be a #1 star on the Celtics. 

Jordan has Chris Paul and Griffin and can't win it all.  But we would with Jordan, Love and IT?  It just doesn't seem to add up.

Rebuilding to a true championship level is not easy.  You need to be lucky and good.  Jordan and Love are fine players and would probably improve us (again, depending on what we give up), but I don't see them taking us to the promised land.

I think Love is a top 15 player. He's averaging 18 points, 11 rebounds in 33 minutes a game, shooting 48% from 2 point land overall and 36% from three attempting SIX threes per game- and that's coming back from major surgery and playing behind Lebron... When in Minny he was getting 4 to 5 more shots per game and those 4/5 shots were closer to the basket.... something he'd get here. His efficiency in Cleveland is just as good as it was in Minny, he's just not 'the man' anymore and not taking as many shots.

I think the reason he would work so well for us is that we could utilize his strengths better than any other team. He's not an attacking scorer but we can put him in a position to take the most efficient shots for him. Basically any shot that Sullinger is taking now is what Love could take, and make at a higher clip. He fills our need for an elite three point shooter/scorer and he can play in the post and rebound.

Having DeAndre would be like getting a better defensive version of Amir with the ability to defend and score in the pick and roll- and protect Love's defensive issues.

"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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Meh

And

Meh



Offline slamtheking

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Jordan and Love are better players than who we have now but they don't solve all the issues this team has and bring other issues to the table.
DJ - better defender but less skilled offensively and would clog the paint on offense.
Love - better offense and similar rebounding to Sully but inferior defender

neither provides scoring from the SF spot nor provides better ball handling/passing than what we're getting from IT, Smart and Turner.

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I would think so. Assuming we give up very little to get them lol

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Love does not have a history of leading his team anywhere, recall his great playoff runs in MIN?   That is because they did not happen.

This would also be an accurate criticism of Demarcus Cousins, if he were available.  The question is if it is a meaningful criticism.
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I think it would make Boston a clear top 2 team in the East, so that has to be a contender.  Don't think the team is on par with the big boys in the West and I'm not sure what the Cavs would look like without Love i.e. who would they get so hard to really gauge the Cavs.
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The Celtics would be a pretty good treadmill team with those two.